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#85129 - 03/09/04 07:14 AM Codeine Phosphate
Melody Melody Moderator Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/20/03 Posts: 1498 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	Codeine is an alkaloid obtained from opium or prepared from morphine by methylation and occurs as white crystals. Codeine effloresces slowly in dry air and is effected by light. The chemical name of codeine phosphate is 7,8-Didehydro-4,5alpha-epoxy-3-methoxy-17-methylmorphinan-6alpha-ol phosphate (1:1)(salt) hemihydrate and has the empirical formula of C18H21NO3·H3PO4·1/2H20. Its molecular weight is 406.4. Each soluble tablet contains 30 mg (0.074 mmol) or 60 mg (0.15 mmol) of codeine phosphate. These tablets also contain lactose and sucrose. Soluble tablets of codeine phosphate are freely soluble in water. They are intended for the preparation of solutions for parenteral administration. These tablets are not sterile. Codeine phosphate is an analgesic. INDICATIONS Codeine phosphate is an analgesic indicated for the relief of mild to moderate pain. DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION For Analgesia: Dosage should be adjusted according to the severity of the pain and the response of the patient. Adults: 15 to 60 mg every 4 to 6 hours (usual adult dose, 30 mg). Children: 1 Year of Age and Older - 0.5 mg/kg of b.d. weight or 15 mg/m2 of b.d. surface every 4 to 6 hours. Soluble tablets codeine phosphate are administered subcutaneously or intramuscularly. Solutions for injection should be prepared with sterile water and filtered through a 0.22 membrane filter. Note: Do not use the solution if it is more than slightly discolored or contains a precipitate. PATIENT INFORMATION Codeine may impair the mental and/or physical abilities required for the performance of potentially hazardous tasks, s.c. as driving a car or operating machinery. Codeine in combination with other narcotic analgesics, phenothiazines, sedative hypnotics, and alcohol has additive depressant effects.
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#85130 - 12/23/04 08:24 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
nikkicat nikkicat Newbie Registered: 11/30/04 Posts: 45	Whats the difference between codeine phosphate and codeine sulphate? thanks! nikki
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#85131 - 12/23/04 12:37 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
rockystuart rockystuart Enthusiast Registered: 03/11/04 Posts: 237 Loc: San Fran Bay Area, Calif	There is not too much difference between the phosphate and sulphate. The phospate will be slightly weaker on a mg to mg basis because the base molicule weighs more than the sulpher. It's strange but morphine is usually done as a sulphate and codeine is done as a PHOSPATE.
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#85132 - 01/24/05 05:59 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
anxious100 anxious100 Member Registered: 11/24/04 Posts: 156	I find this to be the best asthma medication there is, I know it's not commonly found on Western markets, but having purchased Codine Sulphate in France and taken it at times when I have asthma issues (which is very often), it's been a great help to me.
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#85133 - 02/01/05 05:08 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
nikkicat nikkicat Newbie Registered: 11/30/04 Posts: 45	How much tynenol doesezch tylenol 4 have in it? It says the 60 mg of codeine but does not indicate amount of codeine.I ussually take norco 10/325 but has to switch to the tynenol 4 for a bit to decrease tolerance to the hydro codone. It is not as strong but it keeps the pain at bay just concerned about the amount of tylenol. Anybody know? I even researched it and could not find the answer! Thanks!
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#85134 - 02/01/05 06:14 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
CARLITOS_WAY CARLITOS_WAY Threadhead Registered: 06/27/04 Posts: 789 Loc: WASHINGTON, USA	Quote: How much tynenol doesezch tylenol 4 have in it? It says the 60 mg of codeine but does not indicate amount of codeine.I ussually take norco 10/325 but has to switch to the tynenol 4 for a bit to decrease tolerance to the hydro codone. It is not as strong but it keeps the pain at bay just concerned about the amount of tylenol. Anybody know? I even researched it and could not find the answer! Thanks! 300 mg of Tylenol (APAP) _________________________ If I had kept all the 2 cents worth I gave away, I would be wealthy in $$$
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#85135 - 02/01/05 06:25 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
JethroBodine JethroBodine Board Addict Registered: 06/20/03 Posts: 333 Loc: Ozark Mountains	Codeine Phosphate (C18 H21 NO3). H3PO4 . 1 1/2 H2O mw424 Codeine Sulfate (C18 H21 NO3)2 . H2SO4 . 5H2O mw786 per molecule of codeine base, the phosphate is 8% heavier. Therefore in a mass comparison, the sulfate is a little stronger. If you can accurately cut your pills into 12 parts, you could make up for it. _________________________ ???????????????????????????????????? "This may not be the end of the world but you can see it from here." The artist formerly known as Johnny Cougar.
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#85136 - 02/02/05 03:15 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Lablady2 Lablady2 Banned. Shill. Found out to be Mod and working for OP4L Registered: 05/05/04 Posts: 508 Loc: New York City	Chemistry major???? I rarely see someone post re molecular weights and chemical composition on this board - and you live in the Ozarks???? Just teasing - couldn't resist:) I really enjoy your posts - you are a very knowledgable person! _________________________ User banned. Please ignore all posts made by this user. On March 25th, 2005 we found out this user is a moderator at ourprescriptions4less.com
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#85137 - 04/29/05 02:13 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
grix grix Journeyman Registered: 04/10/05 Posts: 63	Anyone have a rough idea of the comparative narcotic strength of Codeine to Hydrocodone or vice-versa? For example, how many Tylenol #3 30 mg codeine would equal 1 Hydro 10/325? Thanks.
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#85138 - 04/30/05 03:38 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
bc3 bc3 Stranger Registered: 03/08/05 Posts: 7	Yes.... used to take hydro 10/325 in us. cannot get in europe. takes 60-90mg of codeine to even come close for me... truth is it is good but not as good... doesn't last as long either. But it's all I can get and it works. Sorry can't give exact details for you just from experience. Bye!
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#85139 - 04/30/05 04:08 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
CARLITOS_WAY CARLITOS_WAY Threadhead Registered: 06/27/04 Posts: 789 Loc: WASHINGTON, USA	Codiene has a shorter half life. It also has less sedative effect. mg to mg it's suppose to be 8 to 1. _________________________ If I had kept all the 2 cents worth I gave away, I would be wealthy in $$$
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#85140 - 04/30/05 06:42 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
theborg theborg Veteran Registered: 10/20/02 Posts: 590 Loc: New England	Quote: Anyone have a rough idea of the comparative narcotic strength of Codeine to Hydrocodone or vice-versa? For example, how many Tylenol #3 30 mg codeine would equal 1 Hydro 10/325? Thanks. Don't know how accurate this is but here's a converter for you. http://www.medcalc.com/narcotics.html _________________________ Forget your fears and want no more.
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#85141 - 05/26/05 01:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
vertigok vertigok Stranger Registered: 03/22/05 Posts: 9	there isn't really a comparison
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#85142 - 07/20/05 02:26 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
NVR2L8 NVR2L8 Member Registered: 03/12/05 Posts: 111 Loc: TX	Had to get Tylenol 3 due to it being so much cheaper than Hydro. How much to compare and also, has anyone noticed upset stomach on it, more so than hydro. Thanks, ME _________________________ "When I have to choose between two evils, I pick the one Ive never tried." ~~ Mae West
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#85143 - 08/31/05 01:07 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
dtyler dtyler Stranger Registered: 08/11/05 Posts: 1	Codeine works great in the treatment of narcolepsy. It has a paradoxel effect, it helps to keep narcoleptics awake without the side effects that ritalyn has.
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#85144 - 10/11/05 01:13 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
shovelhead shovelhead Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/22/05 Posts: 1200	if you wanna get down down on the ground use 50mg codine but don't forget this fact 'you can't get it back codine'
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#85145 - 10/12/05 01:17 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
trixiestixxx trixiestixxx Board Addict Registered: 08/16/05 Posts: 390	What? _________________________ trixiestixxx A Mind is a terrible thing to waste....
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#85146 - 10/15/05 10:09 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
charon666 charon666 Enthusiast Registered: 05/16/05 Posts: 242	just be cautious. i believe it is a schedule II med as just plain codeine, but when one purchases it with the tylenol, it drops to a schedule III. for emergency, codeine is imperative in terms of bronchitis (only take at night to sleep;if one takes it to suppress cough all day, then one can develop pneumonia,) and is better for headaches/migraines than hydro which can worsen headaches in some [but not as good as butalbital, with or without the codeine for headaches/migraines.] If one can get the tylenol #4, 60 mg. codeine, then break in half, one has double the pills of tylenol #3. This does help with pain, but will not give certain effects (at least I don't believe it will) that some people anticipated from the hydro. Another pain killer is talwin, pentazocine,sosegon, schedule IV with tylenol, and it does work, particularly on dental pain. both are cheaper and but for the codeine cough syrup mentioned in the NDS indictment, are under less scrutiny at present.
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#85147 - 10/16/05 09:58 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
MicSlyness MicSlyness GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/12/05 Posts: 2255 Loc: Water Closet	It is scheduled by the amount of codeine, I don't have the link in front of me, but you can find out....I think one of the links on the DB page will direct you to the scheduling page and it breaks it down so it's easy to read.
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#85148 - 10/16/05 11:33 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
osawa osawa Journeyman Registered: 09/29/05 Posts: 52	Codeine’s comparative analgesia to hydro is 6/1 So 60mg codeine = 10 mg hydro Duration of hydro may be up to 2 hours longer than codeine Just google opioid equivalency chart and you'll see where I'm getting this info.
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#85149 - 11/02/05 05:07 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
makranger13 makranger13 Stranger Registered: 09/13/05 Posts: 6	Things that Potentiate Codeine (/Enhance Experience): -DXM/ketamine (therapeutic amount, ie. Amount normally taken for cough) -wine - white, not red (small amount) or brandy/rum/vodka -antihistamines ie.benadryl (25-75mg), original Dramamine,Phenyltoloxamine Citrate (2x therapeutic dose) -antacids ie. Sodium bicarbonate mixed into narcotic solution -benzodiazapines (therapeutic dose) -belladona alkaloids - scopolamine especially (therapeutic dose) -Nyquil mix (due to DXM and doxylamine) -St Johns Wort
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#85150 - 12/22/05 08:51 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Xiola Xiola Stranger Registered: 06/01/05 Posts: 1	Please help! I got codeine phosphate and the description says that it's water soluble. I was under the impression that I was to drink it like Alka-Seltzer, but now that I've been online it seems like it's for injection use only. Is this true? Can you not drink a water soluble codeine phosphate tablet? I'm so confused. And I don't really have the means to do it any other way. If anyone has the proper info on this matter, please help! Thanks.
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#85151 - 12/22/05 10:07 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1401	whats the name of the codeine product. The UK has several that are like alka seltzer one call soldapiene (sp?) comes to mind
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#85152 - 01/16/06 12:19 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
toe toe GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/09/02 Posts: 1652 Loc: MidWest USA	Wow. I hope you didn't do this. Codeine comes in effervescent tabs that are meant to be dissolved in liquid and drunk. Injecting codeine can kill you. Seriously. Pulmonary embolism, badda-boom! _________________________ "It's the end of the World as We Know it. . ." -REM "and I'm seeking asylum in Canada"-toe
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#85153 - 01/16/06 02:58 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1401	INTRAVENOUS injection of codiene can cause pulmonary edema but injection sc (sub cutaneous just under the skin) or IM injection (into the butt thigh or upper arm) can be & is given in that manner, IM & SC routes.
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#85154 - 02/20/06 10:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
aceyalone aceyalone Enthusiast Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 234	Quote: if you wanna get down down on the ground use 50mg codine but don't forget this fact 'you can't get it back codine' ok, ok.......WHAT!?!?!?!?!? No idea what yer post means, but it sounds like a good ole time! ACE
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#85155 - 03/03/06 09:36 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
janey janey Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/12/03 Posts: 1024 Loc: new england	Quote: Had to get Tylenol 3 due to it being so much cheaper than Hydro. How much to compare and also, has anyone noticed upset stomach on it, more so than hydro. Thanks, ME upset stomach for me,yes,yes,yes........codeine feels very heavy in my belly. I never noticed this years back, but for some reason now I notice that it makes me pretty nauseous........is there anything that can be taken to help with that? solpadeine is OTC in the UK, and it is to be tasken as alka seltzer....definately NOT intended to be injected, but I'm not sure if that's even the product in question........ _________________________ Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what IS that thing?!-Jack Handey
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#85156 - 03/06/06 10:39 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
BBM BBM Enthusiast Registered: 12/19/03 Posts: 215 Loc: I'm right here! Do you see me?	Hello all, Has anybody here know what this is exactly? Is it a pill to be taken orally or disolved in a liquid? Codeine/paracetamol (COD-Efferalgan) 30/500 mg Thanks, BBM _________________________ "If at first you don't succeed, keep on suckin till you do suck seed." Curly Howard from the Three Stooges
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#85157 - 03/08/06 10:25 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
janey janey Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/12/03 Posts: 1024 Loc: new england	sounds like one of the products sold OTC in New Zealand. I'v never taken it, but have seen it listed on a product page w/ Nurpfen+ and the likes..........I'm assuming you swallow it like any regular pill. Something that's meant to be dissolved, such as Solpadeine, states so clearly in the product literature. _________________________ Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what IS that thing?!-Jack Handey
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#85158 - 03/23/06 09:19 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
SeaAngel24 SeaAngel24 Stranger Registered: 03/13/06 Posts: 18 Loc: Some beach, somewhere~!~	My Doc has had me on T3's for cluster headaches for about 3 months, I have developed a very high tolerance to the codeine and was wondering how much codeine is safe to take in one single dose???? Thanks _________________________ "To the world you may be one person but to one person you may be the world"
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