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#747367 - 08/15/08 08:05 AM I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help!
scaredsilly Offline
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Hey guys!
I'm 32 years old and newly engaged. I'm getting married April 25,2009 in Puerto Rico which is where my fiance is from. It's suppose to be the most exciting time of my life, but Hydros/Soma/carisoprodol have zapped all feelings out of my being. I'm just pretty much numb. Going through the motions. This has been going on for about two years when I was first introduced to these meds. -Legally by my doctor! Now I find that I can not get enough. I'm ALWAYS worried I won't have enough. Last week was my "wake up" call. I went to one of my doctors and there it was printed, all the meds from diff docs I've been receiving. That's actually what brought me to this site. I was scared. But I was still in denial telling half the story & not letting you guys know that in fact I was seeing multiple doctors for the same meds. I'm sorry I was not truthful. \:\( I was not ready.
After reading through these posts day and night I have realized that in fact I do have a problem, and I want to stop. I want my life back! I want to work again! (Because of my addiction I have not been to work in 2-3 months. I can't be on meds & work! I chose meds!)
I want to be excited when I wake up in the morning! I want to exercise & run everyday like I use to! I am tired of waking up and taking my meds and just wasting my days a way! I want to care about what I look like! Take pride in myself like I use to!
I ordered from loveleafgarden in hopes this will help me get through the tough w/d. I received my package yesterday. It does not look like much. Maybe I ordered wrong? I have: 1)Kratom -Ultra Enhanced Indo and the sample 2) Theobroma cacao: Raw Cacao 25x Extract
Where do I start?

Thank you for listening. I finally broke down and told my fiance what was going on. He knew something was wrong but he didn't know it was the meds. He is very supportive and will do anything he can to help me. When I told him that I read about Kratom it was pretty much a no brainer, we ordered immediately! And this is where I am today....

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#747372 - 08/15/08 08:17 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: scaredsilly]
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Give your Med's to a Trusted Friend and Taper down!....Then get some DLPA and start it a week before you Quit....As long as You are Committed to Quiting and Taper you will be Fine!

Why were you taking the Med's?

Are you in Pain?

Good Luck
Stevo
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#747409 - 08/15/08 09:26 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevo1]
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I would suggest going to a suboxone doctor and let them help you quit. From my experience it is just as easy to get hooked on the Kratom as it was to get hooked on the Hydro. Suboxone is a wonder drug. Plus the doctor will probably make you participate in a 12 step program or something similar. Getting clean is easy staying clean is the tough part.

Good luck if you need to talk feel free to PM me.
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#747411 - 08/15/08 09:28 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: scaredsilly]
MrJR Offline
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 Originally Posted By: scaredsilly
Hey guys!
I'm 32 years old and newly engaged. I'm getting married April 25,2009 in Puerto Rico which is where my fiance is from. It's suppose to be the most exciting time of my life, but Hydros/Soma/carisoprodol have zapped all feelings out of my being. I'm just pretty much numb. Going through the motions. This has been going on for about two years when I was first introduced to these meds. -Legally by my doctor! Now I find that I can not get enough. I'm ALWAYS worried I won't have enough. Last week was my "wake up" call. I went to one of my doctors and there it was printed, all the meds from diff docs I've been receiving. That's actually what brought me to this site. I was scared. But I was still in denial telling half the story & not letting you guys know that in fact I was seeing multiple doctors for the same meds. I'm sorry I was not truthful. \:\( I was not ready.
After reading through these posts day and night I have realized that in fact I do have a problem, and I want to stop. I want my life back! I want to work again! (Because of my addiction I have not been to work in 2-3 months. I can't be on meds & work! I chose meds!)
I want to be excited when I wake up in the morning! I want to exercise & run everyday like I use to! I am tired of waking up and taking my meds and just wasting my days a way! I want to care about what I look like! Take pride in myself like I use to!
I ordered from loveleafgarden in hopes this will help me get through the tough w/d. I received my package yesterday. It does not look like much. Maybe I ordered wrong? I have: 1)Kratom -Ultra Enhanced Indo and the sample 2) Theobroma cacao: Raw Cacao 25x Extract
Where do I start?

Thank you for listening. I finally broke down and told my fiance what was going on. He knew something was wrong but he didn't know it was the meds. He is very supportive and will do anything he can to help me. When I told him that I read about Kratom it was pretty much a no brainer, we ordered immediately! And this is where I am today....


scaredsilly,
First of all, I see so many positives here. You are no longer in denial, your fiance is supportive, your desire to have your life back & you have plenty of time.... April 25, 2009 is a long way away!

As far as the Kratom, from what I've read, don't take any hydro when you use it & start with a small amount ( maybe a tsp) & see how it affects you. I have read a lot of success stories with Kratom use. Note: I do stand to be corrected on the Kratom use as I know some people will come foreword & give you some more helpful advice.

You sound like a (strong-willed-person) to me & I firmly believe you are going to overcome this habbit.

I think that "wake up" call may have been a blessing in disguise! \:\) Oh, before long you will have to change that board name!

Please keep us posted on your progress,

MrJR


Edited by MrJR (08/15/08 09:46 AM)
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#747431 - 08/15/08 09:53 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevo1]
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I was originally taking the meds because I was in pain. My neck,shoulders,back due to work...
I have not been to work in months, but I'm still taking the meds. That's the problem.
Actually after today I will have no pills. I am scheduled for a doctors appointment but I'm not going.
I just don't want anything to do with meds.
When I start working I plan on just sticking with otc medicine.

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#747436 - 08/15/08 09:58 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: MrJR]
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Like gr8fulcpa said.....The Problem with Kratom (from what I have read) is that you will become Dependant on Kratom also!! You will have the WD's when stopping it!!! Not a good Idea. JMHO
Stevo


Edited by stevo1 (08/15/08 10:01 AM)

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#747439 - 08/15/08 10:02 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevo1]
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I've heard many who have withdrawn from Hydros with Kratom and not suffered withdrawal from Kratom. The secret is to take as little as possible to get by the withdrawal symptoms.

Then again, I've read of people who have had much difficulty getting off of of Suboxone. That is really trading one addiction for another.
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#747440 - 08/15/08 10:03 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevo1]
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I found that out also, using Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars).

Seems the only safe way is to taper.


Thalia

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#747441 - 08/15/08 10:03 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: scaredsilly]
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Well the Best way to get off Hydro is to Taper....But if you Can't Taper I would go get some DLPA it will Help Greatly with the WD's!

Good Luck
Stevo
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#747442 - 08/15/08 10:05 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevo1]
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Stevo


What is dlpa? where do you get it?

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#747443 - 08/15/08 10:05 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: MrJR]
scaredsilly Offline
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Registered: 08/08/08
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 Originally Posted By: MrJR
 Originally Posted By: scaredsilly
Hey guys!
I'm 32 years old and newly engaged. I'm getting married April 25,2009 in Puerto Rico which is where my fiance is from. It's suppose to be the most exciting time of my life, but Hydros/Soma/carisoprodol have zapped all feelings out of my being. I'm just pretty much numb. Going through the motions. This has been going on for about two years when I was first introduced to these meds. -Legally by my doctor! Now I find that I can not get enough. I'm ALWAYS worried I won't have enough. Last week was my "wake up" call. I went to one of my doctors and there it was printed, all the meds from diff docs I've been receiving. That's actually what brought me to this site. I was scared. But I was still in denial telling half the story & not letting you guys know that in fact I was seeing multiple doctors for the same meds. I'm sorry I was not truthful. \:\( I was not ready.
After reading through these posts day and night I have realized that in fact I do have a problem, and I want to stop. I want my life back! I want to work again! (Because of my addiction I have not been to work in 2-3 months. I can't be on meds & work! I chose meds!)
I want to be excited when I wake up in the morning! I want to exercise & run everyday like I use to! I am tired of waking up and taking my meds and just wasting my days a way! I want to care about what I look like! Take pride in myself like I use to!
I ordered from loveleafgarden in hopes this will help me get through the tough w/d. I received my package yesterday. It does not look like much. Maybe I ordered wrong? I have: 1)Kratom -Ultra Enhanced Indo and the sample 2) Theobroma cacao: Raw Cacao 25x Extract
Where do I start?

Thank you for listening. I finally broke down and told my fiance what was going on. He knew something was wrong but he didn't know it was the meds. He is very supportive and will do anything he can to help me. When I told him that I read about Kratom it was pretty much a no brainer, we ordered immediately! And this is where I am today....


scaredsilly,
First of all, I see so many positives here. You are no longer in denial, your fiance is supportive, your desire to have your life back & you have plenty of time.... April 25, 2009 is a long way away!

As far as the Kratom, from what I've read, don't take any hydro when you use it & start with a small amount ( maybe a tsp) & see how it affects you. I have read a lot of success stories with Kratom use. Note: I do stand to be corrected on the Kratom use as I know some people will come foreword & give you some more helpful advice.

You sound like a (strong-willed-person) to me & I firmly believe you are going to overcome this habbit.

I think that "wake up" call may have been a blessing in disguise! \:\) Oh, before long you will have to change that board name!

Please keep us posted on your progress,

MrJR


Thank you for the words of encouragement! You are correct, I am a strong person! I always have been! Growing up, I NEVER touched anything legal or illegal! I didn't have my first drink until I was 21 and I quickly learned I didn't like it. That's why this whole "pill thing" is crazy! I know if I told my parents about it they probably wouldn't believe me.
After reading through this forum, I'm excited about what's ahead.
I'm still a little scared. Scared of the w/d I have heard about. After today there will be no more meds.
I'M READY!!!

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#747445 - 08/15/08 10:08 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: Thalia64]
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 Originally Posted By: Thalia64
Stevo


What is dlpa? where do you get it?


Here is a link to a Thread on DLPA

http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/697022/fpart/1

It should answer all of your Questions.
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#747447 - 08/15/08 10:10 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: scaredsilly]
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good luck to you my friend and may the roller coaster ride stop be a smooth one
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#747449 - 08/15/08 10:11 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: chop1]
Thalia64 Offline
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Thanks! I will read up on it
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#747454 - 08/15/08 10:16 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: NotBillGates]
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I agree with NBG. I got off hydro's last Nov. using Kratom. I took about 1/4-1/2 tsp. every four hours. It was all I needed but that varies with each individual. After a week and a half I was done!

I did a lot of research before I started and this is what the bottom line was: Kratom is a leaf that grows on trees in Asia? and the field workers who chew on it for years get addicted. Everyone that I know personally who has used Kratom for a month or less did not get addicted. Suboxone, on the other hand is a very very potent drug and very addictive. The reason it helps with withdrawals is because it is so much stronger than what you are taking now. From what you wrote, especially that you aren't even keeping your dr. appt. the last thing you want is a drug that's even stronger than the hydro you were taking.

Just try the Kratom that you have and use it when you feel the first sign of w/d's. Also, a hot bath instantly erases the aches and will help so much. There is always time to try a different path if this doesn't work. I personally believe that it takes a long time of constant use to get physically dependent on Kratom. Good luck!

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#747461 - 08/15/08 10:29 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: Dennit]
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Scaredsilly~

Congrats on making your life, your own again.

I wish I had a silver bullet for you! There are many ppl here that can help you, and there are also some threads of ppl going through the samething as you...maybe you can join in for support.

I also wanted to ask you about the appt that had the list with all the docs and meds. Did you doctor suspect that you were "Doc shopping?" Just curious how he came to have a list like that.

Wishing you many many med-free days ahead, and a happy and healthy life \:\)

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#747471 - 08/15/08 10:40 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: Dennit]
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 Originally Posted By: Dennit
I agree with NBG. I got off hydro's last Nov. using Kratom. I took about 1/4-1/2 tsp. every four hours. It was all I needed but that varies with each individual. After a week and a half I was done!

I did a lot of research before I started and this is what the bottom line was: Kratom is a leaf that grows on trees in Asia? and the field workers who chew on it for years get addicted. Everyone that I know personally who has used Kratom for a month or less did not get addicted. Suboxone, on the other hand is a very very potent drug and very addictive. The reason it helps with withdrawals is because it is so much stronger than what you are taking now. From what you wrote, especially that you aren't even keeping your dr. appt. the last thing you want is a drug that's even stronger than the hydro you were taking.

Just try the kratom that you have and use it when you feel the first sign of w/d's. Also, a hot bath instantly erases the aches and will help so much. There is always time to try a different path if this doesn't work. I personally believe that it takes a long time of constant use to get physically dependent on kratom. Good luck!


Thank you! I think that I will try the Kratom.( And after the hydro/Soma/carisoprodol I kinda get the whole addicting thing so I will be cautious) I paid for it & it's here so that will be the first thing I do tomorrow morning. Have you heard of the type I bought? And the sample? Just trying to figure out the diff in the two and which I should try first.
Thanks again.

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#747472 - 08/15/08 10:40 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevo1]
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Stevo,
That link is bad, can you try again?
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#747474 - 08/15/08 10:44 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: DanielWA]
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Good luck scaredsilly. Sounds like you are doing the right thing for yourself. It's not easy being as honest as you have been here in this forum. That is a huge plus. I agree, try the DLPA suppliments too along with whatever else (Kratom) cuz it sure won't hurt.

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#747477 - 08/15/08 10:45 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: stevevi]
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 Originally Posted By: stevevi
Stevo,
That link is bad, can you try again?


the link worked for me???
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#747480 - 08/15/08 10:47 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: RubixCubeTO]
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I found it in a search, the link won't work for me for whatever reason. I hope I'm reading the same thing.
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#747481 - 08/15/08 10:53 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: DanielWA]
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 Originally Posted By: DanielWA
Scaredsilly~

Congrats on making your life, your own again.

I wish I had a silver bullet for you! There are many ppl here that can help you, and there are also some threads of ppl going through the samething as you...maybe you can join in for support.

I also wanted to ask you about the appt that had the list with all the docs and meds. Did you doctor suspect that you were "Doc shopping?" Just curious how he came to have a list like that.

Wishing you many many med-free days ahead, and a happy and healthy life \:\)


Thanks for your support!
Regarding the doctor, I had a doctor who gave me a script for vic/Soma/carisoprodol with 5 refills. I used the refills all up at a normal pace. I was working so I only took meds in the evening. I moved and found another doctor who gave me
a script but no refills. I would just call when I ran out & the pharmacy would contact the doctor and he would approve the refill. I did this twice with him. The quantity of his script was MORE!? Anyhow when I ran out of the script(early) I wanted to make an appt with him but he was completely booked. So I called my previous doctor(the 5 refill guy). When I went in to see him he had a list of ALL MEDS I HAVE EVER RECEIVED! I mean I think it went back to 2007!!!!!!! The crazy thing is that I NEVER asked for a refill from him nor anything else. I don't know what caused him to question me???? I was caught completely off guard!! NOW I know that it was my "wake up" call. It was a good thing! It scared me and made me think long & hard about what I was doing to myself and my life. Anyhow, that is what brought me to this site and my screen name!

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#747502 - 08/15/08 11:15 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: scaredsilly]
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WOW!

Thank you for answering...I know that's not easy! There has been much debate on DB about the tracking systems different states use, and how doctors use them. Not sure if you used the same pharmacy, for both refills, but that can be a red flag.
Last month when I went to see my pain doc, I saw a girl taking a pee test, and the nurse with a print out, and although I have never used any other doctor, it still concerns me as to everything they know.
Yes...it was a wake up call...they say God nudges you a few times when he wants your attention, and if you aren't listening...he hits you with a rock! LOL
Thanks again...and all the best!

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#747510 - 08/15/08 11:22 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: scaredsilly]
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I wanted to wish you the best, and let you know that one of the hardest parts of this process is the admission, so you are on the right road!!
I used Suboxone, and was very successful. The process took almost a year, but I was able to defer my hydro addiction without w/d, and was also able to get my life in order under the supervision of my Sub doc.
Everyone has their own preferences, and of course everyone has heard a horror story about both Kratom and Sub.
At the end of the day, you will have to decide what is the best route for you to take. I agree with other posters that you sound determined, and that is a very good thing!
Please do not get caught up in thinking that you are weak because you are not able to just "stop taking hydro". It really has nothing to do with your will. If it were that easy, ther would be no need for the "drug war", treatment centers, alot of jails, and AA!!!
If you are interested in Suboxone, you can go to NAABT site, and find loads of info.
Best of luck!!
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#747515 - 08/15/08 11:25 AM Re: I'm ready to stop Hydros! Please help! [Re: DanielWA]
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DanielWA,

"they say God nudges you a few times when he wants your attention, and if you aren't listening...he hits you with a rock!"

That's exactly true! I know that was God's way of getting my attention before something serious happened!
God didn't put me on this earth to let frickin pills control my life!
I have too much to live for! =)

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