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#743568 - 08/08/08 05:45 AM Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram??
mgm1 mgm1 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/03/07 Posts: 1124 Loc: MN	I have a few questions regarding how to measure a medication in its raw powder form. Say you need to make 30mg doses, but you have a 5 gram pile of the product. What is the easiest, most common way to measure out doses? How do the compounding pharms do this? I don't really have any experience measuring "powders"..... Don't get the wrong idea here, I am asking this because a good friend of mine who is 52, recently got back into the dating scene. He is a bit rusty, and had been out of circulation for a long time. I recommended a (LEGAL) source to him, one that my dad has used in the past for certain ED drugs at a significant price savings compared with getting it the traditional way (Tadalafil). According to him, Cialis is well over $10 a pill! This way, it's about 50 cents a dose. So really all I am asking for are suggestions on safe/accurate MEASUREMENT. I was not looking to discuss the drug, source, pricing, etc. It's not really my thing, I'm in my mid 30s! Though I will admit, I did try it once some years back when my dad got into it. TOO MUCH! I'm too young! Though it is nice to know these things are out there for years from now..... _________________________ NObama '08 Vote McCain/Palin '08!! Remember 9/11? How could you even consider voting Obama....
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#743600 - 08/08/08 06:32 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
jackspa jackspa Banned: very rude and offensive posts Veteran Registered: 09/03/04 Posts: 564 Loc: south	How many milligrams are in a gram? 1000 is the answer. Multiply the 1000 mg by the total grams you have(5) and you come up with 5000 mg. of product. Now just weigh out 30 mg. from that pile of product and there you go.Cap it up. You can weigh out the entire pile now, or be careful to remember the next time, you will have to subtract 30mg. from your 5 gram pile to start your figuring. It would be best to weigh out the entire pile at one sitting. It may take you an hour or two, depends on whether you have a capper and scales. But you'll be good to go for a long time with a stockpile of 30mg. capsules. You should end up with 166 pills and .6666667 left over. Edited by jackspa (08/08/08 06:35 AM)
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#743604 - 08/08/08 06:38 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: jackspa]
OldandWorn OldandWorn GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/03 Posts: 6842 Loc: Among the 58 million.	Originally Posted By: jackspa How many milligrams are in a gram? 1000 is the answer. Multiply the 1000 mg by the total grams you have(5) and you come up with 5000 mg. of product. Now just weigh out 30 mg. from that pile of product and there you go.Cap it up. You can weigh out the entire pile now, or be careful to remember the next time, you will have to subtract 30mg. from your 5 gram pile to start your figuring. It would be best to weigh out the entire pile at one sitting. It may take you an hour or two, depends on whether you have a capper and scales. But you'll be good to go for a long time with a stockpile of 30mg. capsules. You should end up with 166 pills and .6666667 left over. This is a great forum! You can learn grade school math and science! _________________________ Give me a secret, Bring me a sign. Give me a reason, to walk the fire. See another dawn, through our daughter's eyes.
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#743616 - 08/08/08 06:51 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
stevo1 stevo1 GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/08/06 Posts: 1585 Loc: Top of The World!	Oh and don't forget ....If your Erection should last for more then 4 Hours $\:o$ Get to the ER Immediately Sorry Mgm....I just had to say that! _________________________ Stare into my Avatar.....You are getting Sleepy....Very Sleepy....Relax..... Don't Sweat The Small Stuff - It's All Small Stuff!
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#743620 - 08/08/08 06:54 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: stevo1]
OldandWorn OldandWorn GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/03 Posts: 6842 Loc: Among the 58 million.	Originally Posted By: stevo1 Oh and don't forget ....If your Erection should last for more then 4 Hours $\:o$ Get to the ER Immediately Sorry Mgm....I just had to say that! If you have a willing partner, who needs the ER?? _________________________ Give me a secret, Bring me a sign. Give me a reason, to walk the fire. See another dawn, through our daughter's eyes.
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#743677 - 08/08/08 08:21 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: stevo1]
mgm1 mgm1 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/03/07 Posts: 1124 Loc: MN	Originally Posted By: stevo1 Oh and don't forget ....If your Erection should last for more then 4 Hours $\:o$ Get to the ER Immediately Sorry Mgm....I just had to say that! I know, hehehehehehe. I tried the stuff when I was about 30, and I know what they are talking about with those warnings! 4 hours!?!?!?!?!? Maybe when I was in my early 20s....don't think the back could handle it now! I know there are 1000mg in a gram, but what we were trying to figure out is how the heck do you weigh it? Are there scales that measure that small of weights? Not to sound bad here, but I am sure the drug-dealer's scales are like that, but grams and 1/2 grams and stuff.... Milligrams are 1/1000th of a gram! _________________________ NObama '08 Vote McCain/Palin '08!! Remember 9/11? How could you even consider voting Obama....
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#743684 - 08/08/08 08:35 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
mgm1 mgm1 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/03/07 Posts: 1124 Loc: MN	You used to be able to get this stuff suspended in liquid. Like 30mg/ml mix. That way it is easy. But the place that sells it does not have the liquid right now, but the powder is in stock. They have been doing this for several years, and the disclaimer is that it is sold "for research purposes only" under the US Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, various sections noted.... I don't know if this type of stuff, and its purchase has been discussed here on DB before, but the more I read about this place's products, the more I see that there are a number of popular medications people use/get in this manner. I could be mistaken, but I think some of it is even Schedule-4. To my dad originally, this was a God-send. He used to order Viagra from INDIA! It was like a buck a pill, and took him weeks to get. I don't know if they still ship that stuff, or if it is still cheap. I'd be a little nervous taking something from India! _________________________ NObama '08 Vote McCain/Palin '08!! Remember 9/11? How could you even consider voting Obama....
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#743688 - 08/08/08 08:50 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: stevo1]
jackspa jackspa Banned: very rude and offensive posts Veteran Registered: 09/03/04 Posts: 564 Loc: south	No you didn't. It wasn't even clever.
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#743690 - 08/08/08 08:55 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
jackspa jackspa Banned: very rude and offensive posts Veteran Registered: 09/03/04 Posts: 564 Loc: south	Hey there,MGM1...all I did was answer your question. I wouldn't have any way of knowing "what we're trying to do here." But if it will help you, yes, you readily,legally, and easily can buy electronic scales that can handle these amounts. If I picture a capsule in my mind, the image I call up isn't all that small. I could eye-ball it pretty close after capping 1 or 2. You can buy the scales at any scientific supply house or order online easily.
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#743694 - 08/08/08 08:59 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: OldandWorn]
jackspa jackspa Banned: very rude and offensive posts Veteran Registered: 09/03/04 Posts: 564 Loc: south	Dear Old and Worn, you can learn anything you want. It is ok with me. I can help you with the grade school math. Or couldn't you follow the lesson plan? Just so I know and meet or exceed your expectations, how would you have answered the original question?
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#743699 - 08/08/08 09:11 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: jackspa]
carolined carolined Pooh-Bah Registered: 07/31/07 Posts: 1067 Loc: Fed Ex Field	Another thread... turned nasty. What's with everyone lately??? I thought your comment was funny stevo. Edited by carolined (08/08/08 09:12 AM) Edit Reason: Dammit... misspelled stevo again
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#743704 - 08/08/08 09:27 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: jackspa]
mgm1 mgm1 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/03/07 Posts: 1124 Loc: MN	Originally Posted By: jackspa Hey there,MGM1...all I did was answer your question. I wouldn't have any way of knowing "what we're trying to do here." But if it will help you, yes, you readily,legally, and easily can buy electronic scales that can handle these amounts. If I picture a capsule in my mind, the image I call up isn't all that small. I could eye-ball it pretty close after capping 1 or 2. You can buy the scales at any scientific supply house or order online easily. Thanks for the tips. What I meant by "what we were trying to do here", was that I am working with my friend Don, in trying to figure out how to weigh this stuff. That was the "we". It was on my recommendation he decided to get the stuff in that form, as it is VERY CHEAP compared with other options. I just wasn't aware there were scales that sensitive. I guess some internet searches are in order... The few I saw only go down to grams, or half gram, or something like that. _________________________ NObama '08 Vote McCain/Palin '08!! Remember 9/11? How could you even consider voting Obama....
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#743735 - 08/08/08 10:20 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
nephro nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 8570 Loc: UK, despite the rumours	You can measure down to mg with these reliable, cheap scales, but will only measure up to 10g (FSD): (first item on page) http://www.ukscales.com/shop/index.php?cPath=39_57 I have some for compounding and research work, and for $30 they're a bargain, with free case, forceps and calibration masses.
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#743742 - 08/08/08 10:34 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: nephro]
mgm1 mgm1 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/03/07 Posts: 1124 Loc: MN	Originally Posted By: nephro You can measure down to mg with these reliable, cheap scales, but will only measure up to 10g (FSD): (first item on page) http://www.ukscales.com/shop/index.php?cPath=39_57 I have some for compounding and research work, and for $30 they're a bargain, with free case, forceps and calibration masses. That's perfect, thanks! _________________________ NObama '08 Vote McCain/Palin '08!! Remember 9/11? How could you even consider voting Obama....
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#743745 - 08/08/08 10:38 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: carolined]
stevo1 stevo1 GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/08/06 Posts: 1585 Loc: Top of The World!	Originally Posted By: carolined Another thread... turned nasty. What's with everyone lately??? I thought your comment was funny stevo. Thanks Carolined I guess Jackspa is having a Bad Hair Day! $;\)$ $\:D$ _________________________ Stare into my Avatar.....You are getting Sleepy....Very Sleepy....Relax..... Don't Sweat The Small Stuff - It's All Small Stuff!
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#743761 - 08/08/08 11:06 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: jackspa]
gr8fulcpa gr8fulcpa Veteran Registered: 02/12/07 Posts: 606 Loc: Gamehendge	Originally Posted By: jackspa How many milligrams are in a gram? 1000 is the answer. Multiply the 1000 mg by the total grams you have(5) and you come up with 5000 mg. of product. Now just weigh out 30 mg. from that pile of product and there you go.Cap it up. You can weigh out the entire pile now, or be careful to remember the next time, you will have to subtract 30mg. from your 5 gram pile to start your figuring. It would be best to weigh out the entire pile at one sitting. It may take you an hour or two, depends on whether you have a capper and scales. But you'll be good to go for a long time with a stockpile of 30mg. capsules. You should end up with 166 pills and .6666667 left over. If you are going to use a scale to measure out 30mg doses does it really matter that there are 1,000 mg in a gram and that you have 5 grams so you have 5,000 mgs or 167.666667 30mg doses? _________________________ You've lost it...You'll never get out of this MAZE!
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#743770 - 08/08/08 11:25 AM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: gr8fulcpa]
PinkDiva PinkDiva Veteran Registered: 01/03/08 Posts: 636 Loc: Walking down old Route 66	The best way to get an accurate measurement is to buy a scale from either a science store or medical supply. Just remember that 1 gram = (10) 100mg doses. _________________________ "I cry morphine tears" - The Opium Poppy
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#743813 - 08/08/08 12:45 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
stevo1 stevo1 GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/08/06 Posts: 1585 Loc: Top of The World!	Mgm I think your gonna need one of these: http://ohaus.affordablescales.com/scales...CFQIBxwodlXZZcg _________________________ Stare into my Avatar.....You are getting Sleepy....Very Sleepy....Relax..... Don't Sweat The Small Stuff - It's All Small Stuff!
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#743831 - 08/08/08 01:14 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: stevo1]
mgm1 mgm1 Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/03/07 Posts: 1124 Loc: MN	Originally Posted By: stevo1 Originally Posted By: carolined Another thread... turned nasty. What's with everyone lately??? I thought your comment was funny stevo. Thanks Carolined I guess Jackspa is having a Bad Hair Day! $;\)$ $\:D$ I kind of missed that at first. Maybe I thought it was just joking around. I guess I'm having a brain-fart day! I understood what you meant Stevo! Those warnings are humorous in my opinion! See an ER doc to have it deflated...... _________________________ NObama '08 Vote McCain/Palin '08!! Remember 9/11? How could you even consider voting Obama....
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#743844 - 08/08/08 01:40 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: mgm1]
Thalia64 Thalia64 Member Registered: 03/09/08 Posts: 107 Loc: USA	Would it be wrong of me to ask how an Er handles this problem? I'm female so honest i never understood how they could help. One would think that a man could Handle himself to get out of this problem? Or even after things do workout does it still not function properly?Meaning does it go away after?1 shot n done? Sorry,I'm curious. Thalia
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#743851 - 08/08/08 01:54 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: Thalia64]
gr8fulcpa gr8fulcpa Veteran Registered: 02/12/07 Posts: 606 Loc: Gamehendge	An erection lasting more than 4 hours is actually a very serious problem its called priapism. It can cause all kinds of problems.The most common method of alliviating the erection is to insert a needle into the side of the penis and drawing the blood out and then inject saline to remove the rest of the blood. If this does not work (works about 25 - 30% of the time) various drugs are used to constrict the arteries and cutt off blood flow to the penis. If this does not work a surgical shunt is the last option. None of this is very pleasant. More than anyone ever wanted to know about erections. _________________________ You've lost it...You'll never get out of this MAZE!
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#743855 - 08/08/08 02:02 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: gr8fulcpa]
NotBillGates NotBillGates GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/15/04 Posts: 2535 Loc: 867-5309	OUCH! _________________________ “Choosing Obama is a great opportunity for Americans to show the world they can change, be humble and learn from their mistakes." - Nelson Mandela
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#743871 - 08/08/08 02:45 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: NotBillGates]
Thalia64 Thalia64 Member Registered: 03/09/08 Posts: 107 Loc: USA	Ouch is right and i don't even have one. Thanks for explaining that to me. I always wondered but was afraid to ask. Does the erection stay after, well you know, or does it go away? Sorry about asking but with age creeping up on My Husband and I this might become an issue.Good to know about. Blushing as i send this. Thalia
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#743893 - 08/08/08 03:32 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: gr8fulcpa]
nephro nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 8570 Loc: UK, despite the rumours	Originally Posted By: gr8fulcpa An erection lasting more than 4 hours is actually a very serious problem its called priapism. It can cause all kinds of problems.The most common method of alliviating the erection is to insert a needle into the side of the penis and drawing the blood out and then inject saline to remove the rest of the blood. If this does not work (works about 25 - 30% of the time) various drugs are used to constrict the arteries and cutt off blood flow to the penis. If this does not work a surgical shunt is the last option. None of this is very pleasant. More than anyone ever wanted to know about erections. Yeah and they are large-bore butterfly needles usually. And there are 3 tubes to aspirate. However, Sudafed is often quite effective for priapism.
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#743896 - 08/08/08 03:39 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: nephro]
hickboy hickboy Journeyman Registered: 06/01/08 Posts: 52	OHHHHH boy, did I just learn a lot more then I needed to know!!! Reading about all those needles and stuff I don't think mines gonna work tonight. OUCH! Anyway just had to comment.
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#744026 - 08/08/08 08:21 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: hickboy]
gr8fulcpa gr8fulcpa Veteran Registered: 02/12/07 Posts: 606 Loc: Gamehendge	Hey think how I feel my dad is a Urologst this was the kind of cr@p he used to talk about at the dinner table. Thalia64 The condition is partly described as an erection continuing post ejaculation. _________________________ You've lost it...You'll never get out of this MAZE!
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#744036 - 08/08/08 08:49 PM Re: Measurement Question- 1000Mg/Gram?? [Re: gr8fulcpa]
hickboy hickboy Journeyman Registered: 06/01/08 Posts: 52	Yeah, I'll bet, thats kinda funny my mother was a surgical nurse and talked about some pretty wierd things but not that bad LOL!!
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