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#732020 - 07/21/08 06:56 AM
SUPPORT!!!
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melpat
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Registered: 03/20/06
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I was going to post in the thread stits started asking for support, but since it has been locked, I will just start a new one!
I really just wanted to point out that this forum of drugbuyers is titled, "Drug dependence and related topics".
Stits post most certainly fits into this forum.
I understand the vast majority of posts on this board have to do with obtaining meds, but since this forum is part of the board, I have to assume that someone, somewhere, decided it was needed. And it is.
There are loads of us that started out as legitimate pain sufferers, but have fallen into either a dependent or addiction hole. This forum is a tremendous suport for those of us that have formed bonds with other posters here. We have a relationship with people here already. We feel as if we can come here, and get support and kind words from people we have had this "cyber" friendship with. When you are already at a weakness in admitting, then trying to resolve and addiction, you need to feel comfort. It is difficult to go into a strange environment and get that.
Personally, I have been on this board for both reasons. I started out legit, had an abuse problem, had to go through Sub treatment for addiction, and even though I no longer need nor use pain meds, I still come here every day or so to see what's going on with posters I "know", and maybe chime in when I see a topic that either inspires me, or is a subject I have an opinion about.
I don't feel as though me being on this board has hindered my treatment, and I have never once been tempted by coming to DB and reading and posting. What I have experienced is an outpouring of kindness from those posters here that I had developed that friendship with.
ADMIN: Please take this post in the context it was intended. I do not mean any harm by it. I just don't understans why you would have a forum for drug dependence, then suggest that a drug dependent poster should post elsewhere.
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#732158 - 07/21/08 11:04 AM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: jpbp]
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Ruggie
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Registered: 03/25/04
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Hey, I'm with you. When I finally realize that I don't need to smoke anymore, I hope that by turning to the folks here will give me the strength to stop.
By the way, if we are going to stop stits from posting, but what about the thread with the person afraid of their addiction?
Admin, please don't take this the wrong way. I really think we need people like stits to give their view of what can go terribly wrong.
I agree with you, I also read your post on the now locked thread and you said what I was thinking about, you mentioned those suboxone threads, I don't understand what would make this any different then those who posted that they had no pain, just were addicted to hydrocodone and went on sub. Or all the many other members that are still here who have posted about their bad addictions and just wanted the support of their friends on DB, because that's what we do here, we support each other no matter what the issue.
I don't think stits should be singled out, if that is the case than everyone who is or was an addict and has posted about getting sober, whether by going on sub or by other means should have been told the same thing.
But it is not my board and I am sorry if I am out of line.
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#732215 - 07/21/08 12:11 PM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: melpat]
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martind
Veteran
Registered: 05/01/08
Posts: 671
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I was going to post in the thread stits started asking for support, but since it has been locked, I will just start a new one!
I really just wanted to point out that this forum of drugbuyers is titled, "Drug dependence and related topics".
Stits post most certainly fits into this forum.
I understand the vast majority of posts on this board have to do with obtaining meds, but since this forum is part of the board, I have to assume that someone, somewhere, decided it was needed. And it is.
There are loads of us that started out as legitimate pain sufferers, but have fallen into either a dependent or addiction hole. This forum is a tremendous suport for those of us that have formed bonds with other posters here. We have a relationship with people here already. We feel as if we can come here, and get support and kind words from people we have had this "cyber" friendship with. When you are already at a weakness in admitting, then trying to resolve and addiction, you need to feel comfort. It is difficult to go into a strange environment and get that.
Personally, I have been on this board for both reasons. I started out legit, had an abuse problem, had to go through Sub treatment for addiction, and even though I no longer need nor use pain meds, I still come here every day or so to see what's going on with posters I "know", and maybe chime in when I see a topic that either inspires me, or is a subject I have an opinion about.
I don't feel as though me being on this board has hindered my treatment, and I have never once been tempted by coming to DB and reading and posting. What I have experienced is an outpouring of kindness from those posters here that I had developed that friendship with.
ADMIN: Please take this post in the context it was intended. I do not mean any harm by it. I just don't understans why you would have a forum for drug dependence, then suggest that a drug dependent poster should post elsewhere.
I think it is interesting to see the apparent increased activity in this Drug Dependence forum on db.com.
I have not been a reader here for very long but it seems to me that there have been more posts related to this subject lately than has historically been the case.
I guess it is not surprising that this is happening. By the same token, it looks like the threads dealing with "hard to find" medications like Oxycontin, Ritalin, Adderall, Fentanyl, etc. have also had a pretty dramatic increase in activity.
Interesting dichotimy.
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#732546 - 07/21/08 09:42 PM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: melpat]
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fashana
Enthusiast
Registered: 02/21/07
Posts: 225
Loc: Washington
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Martind,
I would guess part of the reason for increased interest in addiction and dependance threads,is the closing of so many OCS. A lot more no ship states,and fear that some people may have using a direct service OCS.
Its a thought anyway 
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#732588 - 07/22/08 12:21 AM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: fashana]
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stits
Banned. Making other posters not want to visit...
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 2981
Loc: Stitsville, Virginia
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God. You guys make some awesome-'pairful' points. Pat--SUPPORT!!! lol Support indeed. It is in our lowest times that we most need each other and to rally round and group-hug, not start kicking people to the curb.
But I do not come here only for me, Stits. I come here to read, to learn, to reap that awesome feeling of having helped others from bestowing information or of sharing like experiences.
It is not conducive to harmony or general ease that everybody seems terrified of the Administrator. "Admin please don't this" "Sorry Admin if that." Good Lord already. The Administrator of DrugBuyers is a MAN, a human being with a heart, soul, and trememdous capacity for compassion, I'm sure.
Anyway look--lol, I'm just seeing this topic, so there you have my perspectives duly tendered.
Stits
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#733334 - 07/22/08 08:38 PM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: jpbp]
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stits
Banned. Making other posters not want to visit...
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 2981
Loc: Stitsville, Virginia
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I think it is interesting to see the apparent increased activity in this Drug Dependence forum on db.com.
I have not been a reader here for very long but it seems to me that there have been more posts related to this subject lately than has historically been the case.
Martind, I would guess part of the reason for increased interest in addiction and dependance threads,is the closing of so many OCS. A lot more no ship states,and fear that some people may have using a direct service OCS. Its a thought anyway
*cough*
Ehh, or the inimitably prolific and indefatigable Stits, maybe peoples?  
C'mom, look on this page. Stits. Stits. Stits. Stits. Each interesting to read, some fun and passionate (some a little too passionate), each hopefully somewhat educational; substantive; germain.
Four topics. One page. Thousands of views.
Hey i dunno, to echo Fashana it's just a thought.
 Stits
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#733393 - 07/22/08 10:52 PM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: stits]
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stits
Banned. Making other posters not want to visit...
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 2981
Loc: Stitsville, Virginia
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If I preface a post with: Admin please... it is only because even though/ and because admin is human, there is a tendency to struggle with the "power" that comes with moderating a site that deals with controversial issues such as this board/thread.
Yep--defo need to clear this one up. As soon as I posted last night, I looked closer and thought Damn. This can easily be misread.
So let's see if we can put the original intention into a clearer phrasing.
In saying it's not conducive to an air of harmony or general ease that everyone just seems terrified of the Administrator I was not being critical of the membership. I was noting that subtle air of fear which I detect so often.
People are truly afraid to speak--and when they do, it is often with a beseeching plea to avoid his wrath or something. And this is where I noted and reminded people that our Administrator is not God... though he be powerful within this particular kingdom.
Look, it could be down to different styles, I suppose. Some powerful people like to rule from a position of absolute authority. I could not stomach that; would not want people to fear me and would much rather be known, admired, and personally respected.
There's also the rare acumen that When people fear you, you never know if a compliment is sincere or mere placation to please. Ugh. Well like I said it's probably down to style but I've always thought respect from admiration trumps respect born of fear any day.
Anyway peoples: That is more true to the observation I was making.
He has posted numerous times that there are better, specific forums out there for beating addiction than a site dedicated to buying prescription drugs. The fact is that it might not be that healthy to continue to patronize a website called DrugBuyers when you are attempting to stay away FROM drug buying, JMHO.
Heya Tigersmom.
I can respect that; it's common sense. But the forum exists, see, and I absolutely balk at being told what is best or having this personal an issue decided for me. (Someone else already covered this, actually.)
And of course it goes again to catching flak for coming forward -- I'm already stepping WAY back if you notice in my "Bear" thread, sensing it is safer to be more general in all sharing.
As a VIP member I would urge the owner of this site not to get rid of the dependency section of this site. I think it helps more people than we may ever know.
Damn well said. When I first found this site, I noticed the lacking of any section devoted to what inevitably comes of the types of controlled, addicting substances one could at that time so easily obtain on here. I remember expressing in one topic that I felt it a moral obligation to have a forum like this. Many won't remember but at that time, it was understood to be taboo to talk about addiction or mention the word addict in the wrong context--it was not hard to trip up on that.
We've come a long way. It hasn't been suggested but by deleting this Dependence site, DB.com would take a giant step backward... People would surely go back into hiding and open denial.
Stits
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#733436 - 07/23/08 04:36 AM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: 70727487]
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mistyblue
Member
Registered: 05/28/08
Posts: 133
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I was witnessed to Administrations most recent post concerning this this matter. If I am wrong ,I will stand corrected. Administration supports Stits and is behind him staying. I just don't understand why some members still feel the need to express how they feel and what they think, and... what should be done and.... where stits should go and.... why he shouldn't be here and... why this is not a good place for him and... on...and ..on..and ...on. We have a forum for every ache and pain and disease and disorder. Allowing a forum for drug abuse, addiction, dependence, stuggles of recovery, as well as the medication involved in the process only adds to the INTEGRITY to this site . WHERE BETTER TO LEARN OF THE HEALING POWER OF DRUGS AS WELL AS THE DESTRUCTIVE POWER OF DRUGS THAN ON A SITE SO NAMED ...DRUGBUYERS.COM . Yes....WE CAN EDUCATE.!!.. if only members will allow. If this was just a site to buy prescription drugs ,we would not be discussing this matter. DRUGBUYERS.COM IS A LOT MORE THAN A SITE TO BUY PRESCRIPTION DRUGS !.....ok , I'm done and still love all .
Very well said, 707, I was going to say something similar, but there it is.
Misty
Edited by mistyblue (07/23/08 04:36 AM)
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#733514 - 07/23/08 07:18 AM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: 70727487]
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OldandWorn
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/21/03
Posts: 6842
Loc: Among the 58 million.
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I was witnessed to Administrations most recent post concerning this this matter. If I am wrong ,I will stand corrected. Administration supports Stits and is behind him staying. I just don't understand why some members still feel the need to express how they feel and what they think, and... what should be done and.... where stits should go and.... why he shouldn't be here and... why this is not a good place for him and... on...and ..on..and ...on. We have a forum for every ache and pain and disease and disorder. Allowing a forum for drug abuse, addiction, dependence, stuggles of recovery, as well as the medication involved in the process only adds to the INTEGRITY to this site . WHERE BETTER TO LEARN OF THE HEALING POWER OF DRUGS AS WELL AS THE DESTRUCTIVE POWER OF DRUGS THAN ON A SITE SO NAMED ...DRUGBUYERS.COM . Yes....WE CAN EDUCATE.!!.. if only members will allow. If this was just a site to buy prescription drugs ,we would not be discussing this matter. DRUGBUYERS.COM IS A LOT MORE THAN A SITE TO BUY PRESCRIPTION DRUGS !.....ok , I'm done and still love all .
Hey, this is a private space. It is what management says it is. This may still be a somewhat free country, but not a totally free board. Do not make that mistake.
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#733828 - 07/23/08 02:04 PM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: OldandWorn]
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stits
Banned. Making other posters not want to visit...
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/15/05
Posts: 2981
Loc: Stitsville, Virginia
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#733838 - 07/23/08 02:14 PM
Re: SUPPORT!!!
[Re: stits]
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