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#698020 - 05/13/08 09:15 PM Direct Scripts and insurance?
Kotee Offline
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I have had migraines every day for 11 years. I was in 6 'total' car crashes which exacerbate the migraines. I am 29 and have 2 preventive medications and Tramadol for onset. The Tramadol is ok, but hydrocodone works much better. My doctor will not prescribe Hydrocodone because he thinks it is too addictive.

-Since I have a long history of migraines and my doctor can speak of my condition, will this help me get a prescription with an online company?

-Is there any way to get a prescription to use at a pharmacy in my home town?

-Is there any way to use my insurance to get the consultation and medication?

I really appreciate your time in reading this. Thanks, Kotee.

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#698199 - 05/14/08 09:13 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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There are several comapanies whom do the direct script route. I've read where some will accept insurance as well.

You'll have to search under the "Direct Scripts" thread.
http://drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/81/page/1

You should be able to find what you're looking for there. Lots of luck to you and I hope you find some relief.
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#698300 - 05/14/08 12:01 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: charisma01]
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Thanks for your response charisma01.

P.S. I love your kitty avatar =]
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#698375 - 05/14/08 02:56 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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One of my BFF's suffers from severe migraine headaches and her doctor/specialist told her Hydrocodone does not work with/for headaches --- and I think I have read the same thing around here on the board as well. I think I recall that people have said Hydrocodone actually makes headaches WORSE! But then again, everyone is different. But she takes Imitrex (sp?) and she says that it works wonders!!!

Hopefully someone who suffers from migraines as well can chime in here on the Hydrocodone issue - whether it is good or bad for migraines.

Take care!

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#698384 - 05/14/08 03:13 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: princess995]
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Tramadol gives me a worse headache and Hydrocodone does not. Personal differences I guess.
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#698579 - 05/14/08 08:52 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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I've had migraines almost all of my life.
Hydro works for me, if I take it when the headache first starts. If I wait and let my headache get bad, a shot is about all that will help. Or Stadol n/s
I haven't used an online place in over 6 months so I can't help you there.
nanny

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#698583 - 05/14/08 09:05 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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I was married to a neurologist-migraine specialist who said opiates were notorious for causing rebound headaches. They affect the seratonin re-uptake inhibitors so dramatically that you have to keep increasing the dose to avoid the kind of "let-down" pain people also report after long exams, sex...You can very quickly burn out your adrenals by jerking with your metabolism, experience decreased appetite, basically develop the physiology of Richard Pryor back in the day....He balanced any opiods with Imitrex, and also prescribed magnesium. It's a viscious cycle.
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#698645 - 05/15/08 03:00 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Calbildo1]
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To answer your questions:

Yes, you can get a prescription based on your condition, if your records show you've been prescribed the same medicine before.

Yes, A Direct Script company can send you the written prescription that you take to your home town pharmacy. They can also just call the prescription into any pharmacy in your town you prefer. Not all states take Out of State prescriptions so check on it first.

Yes, you can use your insurance to pay for the prescription. I don't think you can use your insurance to pay for the actual consult. You may be able to use your insurance if you go with NNCIP. Read their threads to see what other patients have said.

As an aside, as I've said about a million times on here, I have a sister with a history going back MANY years of massive, weekly migraines. Stadol NS seems to be the medicine that works the best. Her doctor said No No to Hydrocodone (can cause headaches in migraine sufferers). He also gives her Tylenol #3 (guess codeine is okay), occasionally Ultracet, and demerol pills to keep her out of the emergency room. This is after using Imitrex and every other med on the market for migraines. She thought Imitrex worked great, but most prescriptions were for like 8-10 pills and would cost a couple of hundred $$ to fill, and they didn't have insurance. Her doctor used to give her as many samples as he had, and would give her the little shots of Imitrex also since she couldn't afford to always fill the prescriptions, and she often needed at least 2 Imitrex pills to stop the migraine.

Topamax seems to prevent her from getting headaches at all, but she has lost a ton of weight and is basically bones with skin stretched over them. She still takes it, but takes breaks from it so she can eat and try to get some weight back on.

Good Luck!

edited to add: I hope my phrase about saying it a million times didn't come out as sounding mean. I just meant that I'd mentioned it a lot on the forum and some people are probably rolling their eyes now and going "we know we know!" when I mention my sister and the medicines she takes.


Edited by Lynx4 (05/15/08 03:18 AM)

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#698699 - 05/15/08 07:18 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: princess995]
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I get Migraines. Usually I can catch them before they get bad. Imitrex is a God send. It is amazing!!!! I tried Hydrocodone 10mg and it either didn't get rid of the headache or it made it worse. I will definitely stick with the Imitrex!!!!
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#699127 - 05/15/08 07:45 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Lynx4]
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You're right...I forgot to mention that my personal migraine cure, after my husband even gave up and had me admitted 3 times in the mid-90's, for days of inpatient treatment, was to get rid of the stress, live authentically, and learn to say, No. Mine were so bad I usually bled from the nose, and once had capillaries break behind the eyes, very gruesome, but I stopped swallowing what I meant to say all the time and the physical pressure abated. Read or watch Bill Moyers's interview with Joseph Campbell, The Power of Myth, a great remedy for all kinds of ills. Best to Sis. Mine was 60 today, looks 40, cheerful, amazing.
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#699148 - 05/15/08 08:39 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: princess995]
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 Originally Posted By: princess995
One of my BFF's suffers from severe migraine headaches and her doctor/specialist told her Hydrocodone does not work with/for headaches --- and I think I have read the same thing around here on the board as well. I think I recall that people have said Hydrocodone actually makes headaches WORSE! But then again, everyone is different. But she takes Imitrex (sp?) and she says that it works wonders!!!

Hopefully someone who suffers from migraines as well can chime in here on the Hydrocodone issue - whether it is good or bad for migraines.

Take care!


I use hydros. for my chronic headaches/migraines and that is the only thing that works on mine....I have tried numerous meds., but hydros. are what help.
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#699161 - 05/15/08 09:33 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: mentoramy05]
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I think we were both talking about the high incidence of rebound pain with hydrocodone, and evolving into a nasty diagnosis of intractable migraine. Whether it's a true classical migraine with onsets that coincide with changes in barometric pressure, menses, post-coital, visual fields, olfactory nerves, etc., or tension headaches, has a great deal to do with the most effective treatment...My husband did everything from right temporal Botox injections, which I loved for the Wed. leftovers had to be used, by my sister and me, or wasted, to Demoral injections desperate patients could be trusted with and did well on, to magnesium, to biofeedback, but deciding whether pain's migranal, situational, etc. was key to finding the best protocol.
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#699171 - 05/15/08 09:51 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: mentoramy05]
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Sorry, forgot, I saw a couple of your posts and thought you might be interested, esp. if you have migraines come on when the barometric pressure drops, before storms, changing altitudes, flying, etc. I still have a lot of temporal pressure when the pressure's below 29%...I read an article about migraine "weatherheads," why it occurs mostly in females, said it's an evolutionary device that started in hunter-gatherer societies, when Fred and Barney stayed in the cave doing whatever, and the women who were out on the plain, bringing in the bacon with cave-kids on the hip, devolved ways of getting kids and bacon back to the cave before storms rolled in....since pain's an effective warning of imminent danger, Wilma and Betty learned to correspond pain from veinal and arterial swelling with the declining barometric pressure that'd caused it, and run the bacon and Bam-Bam back to the cave.
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#699180 - 05/15/08 10:20 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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Some guides say Tramadol's not addictive, but most say it is, and is one of the most abused meds, with a truly hellish withdrawal..The pharmacist at my grandmother's hospital said just this morning that it's the next med due to be scheduled, don't remember when he said, but you can google it. All the information though says it's contraindicated with narcotics and will provoke withdrawal symptoms if it's mixed, so a little of both's a large bad idea. It was the first thing I tried after a herniated disc-traction ordeal, and it did nothing but bring on sensations of dread and a kind of disorganized panic, and a vague nausea, like a rough '78 flashback. I'd look up the information about the upcoming scheduling and any other support for a change, and take it to the doc., or find another. I don't know how you'd shift with an online provider, but Jeff from ConsultsDirect is very straightforward and would know the chance of their md transitioning you to something effective. Good luck.
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#699228 - 05/16/08 02:40 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Calbildo1]
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a rough '78 flashback? are you referring to lsd? sure glad I'm of a different generation!

taking tram and hydro together worked great for my pain with no side effects or weird feelings at all. so much opposing info!

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#699292 - 05/16/08 07:01 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Calbildo1]
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 Originally Posted By: Calbildo1
Sorry, forgot, I saw a couple of your posts and thought you might be interested, esp. if you have migraines come on when the barometric pressure drops, before storms, changing altitudes, flying, etc. I still have a lot of temporal pressure when the pressure's below 29%...I read an article about migraine "weatherheads," why it occurs mostly in females, said it's an evolutionary device that started in hunter-gatherer societies, when Fred and Barney stayed in the cave doing whatever, and the women who were out on the plain, bringing in the bacon with cave-kids on the hip, devolved ways of getting kids and bacon back to the cave before storms rolled in....since pain's an effective warning of imminent danger, Wilma and Betty learned to correspond pain from veinal and arterial swelling with the declining barometric pressure that'd caused it, and run the bacon and Bam-Bam back to the cave.


you have a most fascinating way with words

thanks for the belly laugh - I needed that
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#699300 - 05/16/08 07:19 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: RubixCubeTO]
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Wow, you all have been very insightful and kind. Although like scruf said, "So much opposing info!" lol. Again, it is just personal differences. But much of this information is invaluable to me. I am seeing a Dr this AM and hopefully he thinks hydro is appropriate for me. My 2 preventives are doing very well though(Inderal and Amitryptiline) getting rid of my daily migraine! Thank God, literally. =]

Edited by Kotee (05/16/08 07:21 AM)
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#699455 - 05/16/08 11:34 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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Good luck, let us know how it goes....
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#699547 - 05/16/08 01:38 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Calbildo1]
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Well my doctor did decide 10 Vicodins a month would be a good idea. So I assume I can use a direct script place to fill the same size Vicodin(ie 10/325), but can I get more then 10 a month? Assuming of course I supply them with the MRI tests, CT, Office visits, etc.
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#699561 - 05/16/08 02:05 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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I am sure you can get more than 10/month. How does 10 even provide you with any normal lifestyle? Good luck.
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#699601 - 05/16/08 03:18 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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If I were you, I'd pm Jeff of consultsdirect, explain and ask, or call his partner Debbie Mon, but in the meantime, gather records and forms any place would need faxed for a consult.
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#699819 - 05/16/08 09:55 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Calbildo1]
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Will do =)
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#700000 - 05/17/08 12:37 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: 1219wendy]
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"How does 10 even provide you with any normal lifestyle?"



It allows someone to only use them when they absolutely need them. Taking them everyday for occasional headaches is a good way to ruin your "normal lifestyle" by becoming addicted.

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#700070 - 05/17/08 03:35 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: scruf]
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 Originally Posted By: scruf


taking tram and hydro together worked great for my pain with no side effects or weird feelings at all. so much opposing info!


I have to second this, I have found tram and hydro to be the perfect combo for my back pain. I normally start out the day with tram and try to not take the hydro until towards the end of the day, somedays I can wait and other times the pain is crippling and I cant. I also have cut way down on the hydros since I starting using this combo. I also know though that the Tramadol will produce some hellish withdrawals. The weird thing about that is, Tramadol will help hydro withdrawals, but hydro will not help Tramadol withdrawals.

I am not going to name names here, but a good friend of mine (also a member here) is currently trying to get off trams. He has told me it is the hardest thing he has ever gone through. He also said that the withdrawals are 100 times worse than hydro withdrawals.

I have decided to cut down on my Tramadol dosage since, I think I am going to quit taking it everyday as well. I wish there was something that worked for chronic pain that didnt cause one to become dependent. I thought Tramadol was that drug, but I guess I was mistaken.

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#700115 - 05/17/08 05:25 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: littlered363]
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Question???? How many trams was your friend on when he tried to quit...I have been on a 2-3 50mg Tram, with 1-2 7.5 Hydro per day for about 4 months...I have been trying to keep both numbers low
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#700878 - 05/19/08 11:04 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: riff4848]
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I've been having to take 10 trams a day...give or take.... And like you said, the withdrawals are horrible. Worse then speed, alcohol, etc! Well..maybe it ties speed. It is a horrible 'doom like' feeling that no one should have to go through.
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#700886 - 05/19/08 11:14 AM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: Kotee]
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 Originally Posted By: Kotee
I've been having to take 10 trams a day...give or take.... And like you said, the withdrawals are horrible. Worse then speed, alcohol, etc! Well..maybe it ties speed. It is a horrible 'doom like' feeling that no one should have to go through.


Kotex- I'm curious about your detox from Tramadol. You said you are currently taking about 500 mg./ day. Was this your level of medication when you withdrew from it before? What other meds were you taking then?
The number of patients entering drug recovery programs addicted to Tramadol has been incresing lately but it does not have a long history of treatment. I'm interested in learning more about it from heavy users.
Thank you

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#700934 - 05/19/08 01:13 PM Re: A couple questions, any help appreciated. [Re: martind]
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