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Ugh...don't start me on Ryan Haight.

His mother and father had NO IDEA what their child was doing on the internet. At all.
He also had a credit card and his fathers medical books and was a member at a very questionable drug use site.

He was NOT a naive little kid getting pills/drugs for the first time in his life from some big, bad internet pharmacy.
He was a raver, an experienced in psychotrophic drugs kind of kid. (he went under the name Quicksilver on one of these sites)

OOPS!! Took too much one night and now Mom and Dad feel all sorts of guilt for not having a damn clue what their kid was doing.
So, how do we deal with the guilt? Blame everyone else but yourself for the death of your son.

She has plastered her face all over the United States, blaming everyone but herself for his death.

I have an old post or two or three on here about this. Maybe I'll go dig them up, P2All does too.

***Huge sigh***
I am so sick of Ryan's "mom" out there running untruths around to the 'powers that be' about internet health care.

If you look around some...you will see that Little Ryan was NOT an innocent little kid. He had #1, an obviously open credit card. #2, No parental supervision at all. #3, he was heavily experimenting with a number of substances...looking for the ultimate high.

I have a nephew that killed himself...because his home life was absolutely MISERABLE. Of course, after his death...his mom was everywhere saying "I just don't know how this could have happened...we had SUCH A GOOD LOVING FAMILY"!!!! BULL CR$P!!!

It's denial...trying to make someone else/something else accountable for your problems.

I AM sorry that Ryan died, I can't imagine that pain for a parent...but good grief...let's let the blame fall where it at least partially should.
Yeah, back in the day...it was a tad bit easier to order meds than it is now. BUT...what parent doesn't know what is coming in the mail for thier kids, or check the credit card statements??

I'm over her...seriously.

This got me going back over some stuff. (I actually wanted to just make myself mad again...LOL)

Ryan was a kid, 18 when he died...BUT...by some news reports, he was 16, 17..just make up a 'shocking' age.
Some reports say he died from hydrocodone purchased 'easily online, just the click of the mouse'. Others of course say 'hydro, morphine, xanax..etc'.
His mother says he used the money from his part time job to purchase said drugs.
(I wish I had a part time job with THAT kind of money)
Even back in the day, it was way more expensive than a part time job afforded.

I have said before, It used to be easier than it is now to buy hydro online. BUT...it still goes back to the parents gave the kid a credit card. They SAY that he sold/bought baseball cards on ebay.
Obviously never checking his purchases.
Obviously never checking what he was doing in their house.
His father was a doctor, right?? That's where alot of the drugs he experimented came from, from what I remember.

There are some news reports that say he was only using the computer in the family room. I highly doubt it.

If you ever visited the website that he used to search for that 'ultimate' high...you would see some of the truth come out. Those kids aren't telling stories. They are brutally honest. Alot of the posts referring to Ryan are gone...but some still exist.
(I won't provide the link...as I think it's a seemly place...but I will share some post out takes)
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Sorry, I haven't checked social in quite awhile. Where to start, well Ryan Thomas Haight (Quiksilver) was born in San Diego, California December 28, 1982. I was born that same month on the 3rd. We met in second grade at Fuerta elementary school in I believe it was 92. We became friends instantly. After that year passed I moved out of the area and went to a different elementary school. We then lost touch for several years. Jump ahead to freshman year at Grossmont High School, I had first period PE with Ryan. He came up to me and asked me if I used to like Ninja turtles (I was in love with the teenage mutant ninja turtles as a child, I had every action figure, I've always had an addictive personality). Ryan remembered this about me and that is how we became friends again. That year in high school I met JD, one of my other best friends.
Jump ahead one more year, I introduced Ryan to Kim who turned out to be the love of his life. This was the event that turned Ryan and myself into best friends. We hung out together every weekend, every weekend turned to almost everyday. JD moved away our second year of high school and we lost touch for a bit. Jump ahead to the middlie point of our 3rd year in high school, Ryan went to his first rave, some little weekly party, rolled for the first time and wanted me to do the same. At this point all I had done was drink and smoke weed, I wasn't sure if I wanted to do anything harder then those. Well one night JD calls up Ryan out of the blue, we all deside to get drunk. Then the next time that we all hang out we move on to the DXM which me, Ryan and JD have labelled "zorbing", that was our term for being on DXM.
March 18, 2000- Turtle Maina, this was my first rave, and of corse Ryan took me (this was also JD's first party. It was this tiny little 'happy hardcore mini maassive' in the venue they called The Fox Theater in Pomona,Ca. This was another big step in our lives, our newly found drug life. We expericed 2ct7, morhpine, mushrooms, ativan, ketamine, and many other drugs with each other (JD, Ryan and Myself) for the first time. Summer of 2000 had to be the funnest point in my entire life because I really got to experice a true adventure with my 2 best friends, I also met my other best friend Jim Hawkins (ZeroHawk) that summer.
Skip past Nocturnal Wonderland 2000 (best party ever and the last party Ryan, JD, Jim and myself all attended togther), my arrest, JD's arrest, almost getting arrested SEVERAL other times, and that brings us to Together As One 2000 (The last party I got to experice with my best friend, Quiksilver).
Ryan died Feburary 12, 2001. (was found with mophine, hydrocodone, and xanax in his body) I'm not sure as to what exactly caused his death, but he did NOT inject the morphine, there were no signs on injection what so ever.
He discovered [censored] in about April of 2000, he then introduced me to it.
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I love remembering ryan he was one of the best people ive ever met in my entire life. First off I'd like to say that I only knew Ryan for about 6 months but the moment we met I knew we were gonna be best friends. he was one of the smartest kindest straight up coolest people ive ever met. I still remember when me and him went to the fox just me and him. I'll never forget that party i bonded with ryan in such a way it was almost like he was my little brother and then of coarse there was together as one. me and him hung out all night man was he (censored) up he kept telling me jim I cant do this without you.

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THAT'S A COUPLE OF THE POSTS FROM THERE ....It's no secret what site it is...but if you feel like it...go there and do a search, you'll find more.

<img src="/freeboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Have a good weekend everyone!!
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I agree since I am also a parent of two teenaged daughters. You had better believe that when a package arrives for them, I know what is in it. Of course, they are usually from Amazon or Overstock and contain movies, books and video game paraphernalia. Then, I AM THE ONE who had to put the payment info in anyway. BUT, I am STILL in charge and like pidge said, "my house, my Rules".

However, it is just like that commercial where the slimy drug dealer is standing there without any customers. In summary, he basically is talking to us parents and tells us that we can't blame him anymore for our kids' drug habits...they can get that in our medicine cabinets. Or the tobacco and liquor industries....someone dies of lung cancer or liver failure and they want to sue those companies. Or even worse than that....a few years ago when the lady got burned by the coffee from a very well-known fast-food conglomerate and everyone blamed THEM? C'mon! The warnings are plainly on there and yes...these big tycoons are in it for the bucks, but we all knew when we picked up that first cigarette(I do smoke unfortunately) or that first sip of alcohol, what could happen in the future. Everyone wants to blame someone or sue someone. It has gotten ridiculous in this day and age.

Nonetheless, as a parent I do hurt for anyone who loses a child for any reason and they will be in my prayers anyway.

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Oh god not that freaking Ryan Haight AGAIN. Where is patient2all (he knows a lot about this kid)? Ryan Haight had more than painkillers in his system; he bought heavy duty drugs from IOPS, he posted on websites geared to young drug abusers. Where were his parents when he was spending so much money on drugs?

Much has happened since Haight died; for one, there are virtually NO NROPS operating in the USA.

The legislation Bush is talking about has been kicking around the Senate for a couple of years. We all need to email our Senators and urge them to vote NO on this bill if it goes to a vote on the Senate Floor....

Did you ever notice in all these articles the media are bombarding us with now about prescription drugs, they always say "powerful" medications. It's just to sensationalize it all that much more, which is all the media cares about anyway. In nine out of ten articles telling us about this supposedly huge problem of prescription drug abuse, they call the meds "powerful." Pain medication has been used for a long, long time. Did the medication suddenly become more powerful now that theoretically every 5-year-old is taking pain medication?

It's bad enough what is happening with big brother sticking its nose in our medicine cabinets, but the media is making it much worse and playing right along by sensationalizing it.