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#637584 - 01/25/08 11:21 AM
Re: PCP Just Dropped Me
[Re: nico]
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shmoopy
Banned. Another ID of Shestheone, flaminghead,, test321, kryp
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Registered: 01/08/08
Posts: 188
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300mg of Ultram ER isn't really a red flaf alert in my opinion. I don't think it's an opiate or anything like that. It can be habit forming, but so can eating a sugar cube. I don't see any logic in this at all, no reasonable person would take such a severe action against their own patient.
Is there any little bit of information that may be helpful, such as past history of a certain problem. Have you asked the Doctor for opiates?
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#637589 - 01/25/08 11:26 AM
Re: PCP Just Dropped Me
[Re: shmoopy]
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Jamo
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Registered: 12/08/05
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Loc: new england
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I do believe that Tramadol is an opiate as mild as it is i do beleive its an opiate.
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#637601 - 01/25/08 11:36 AM
Re: PCP Just Dropped Me
[Re: Jamo]
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shmoopy
Banned. Another ID of Shestheone, flaminghead,, test321, kryp
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Tramadol is a narcotic-like pain reliever. I'm pretty sure there isn't any Narcotics of any sort or any amount in the pill.
For me, Tramadol does absolutely nothing. Tylenol does a much better job for me. Isn't that weird?
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#637608 - 01/25/08 11:45 AM
Re: PCP Just Dropped Me
[Re: shmoopy]
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jimborg
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Registered: 10/03/07
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Opioids are synthetic opiates, and Tramadol is an opioid. Opioids *are* narcotics. It doesn't cause nearly as much saturation of mu-opiate receptors as other narcotics, but it is still a narcotic.
Studies have shown it to be about as effective as Tylenol #3 as far as pain relief, but it has less potential for euphoria. It's a little higher on the ladder than propoxyphene (Darvon).
If they have accused you of being a drug-seeker, best to move on and forget about him. I had the same thing happen to me when I asked for a refill of lortab from my GI doctor. Six months later when I was admitted to the hospital with three abscesses, they asked who my GI doc was. I named his practice. They called to have someone come over and look at me, and they actually said, "Sorry, he has been discharged from our *practice*."
So I understand exactly how you're feeling. It sucks. It sucks even more knowing that I had these abscesses developing for 6 months and he wouldn't take my repeated complaints of pain seriously...
Find a more compassionate doctor who can help you and your son better! And most of all, don't dwell on it because it will only make you feel embarrassed and depressed. These things happen all the time; you probably aren't the first he's dumped and you definitely won't be the last.
Sorry you're having to deal with this!
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#637621 - 01/25/08 12:06 PM
Re: PCP Just Dropped Me
[Re: shmoopy]
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Jamo
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Registered: 12/08/05
Posts: 1815
Loc: new england
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shmoopy, no its not weird!! Everybody is different. Like me the Tramadol work better then a lot of things for me. I actually got more releif from 2 Tramadol then one 5mg oxycodone. Tylenol does absolutely nothing for me if i need something on top of my pain meds i usually take ibuprophen, when i have a major flare up i take the Tramadol if i have any. So you see everyone is different, their bodies , their diets etc... this all works together in what will and will not work. Its a process of elimination i guess, find what works best for you and stay there.
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#638999 - 01/28/08 12:24 AM
Re: PCP Just Dropped Me
[Re: JokerOwling]
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bdit
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Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 974
Loc: Mid South
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If you want to freak a dr out,tell them you are using a voice recorder to record the visit.This will show you whos who when it comes to dr's.A good dr wont care one bit.A bad dr will DEMAND you turn it off,or simply ask you to leave. Note:Voice recordings stand up in court.
My son had to have a spinal tap several years ago, and the comedian in him wanted to videotape it. The neurologist allowed me to do so as long as I didn't tape him putting the needle in. He said he needed total concentration to do that, and that's understandable. But he let me tape the rest of it. We call it "This is Spinal Tap II."
The doctor could and probably should have emphatically said a big NO, but I guess he thought it was kinda cute that a 20 year old would want to do something like this. Of course, after changing doctors (this doctor misdiagnosed my son and mother), we found he never needed a spinal tap in the first place.
This brings up another point. For those of you who have had spinal taps, did you suffer headaches and have to go back for a blood patch? He had to do that, and the doctor said we had to go to the hospital for that. The hospital said it was considered surgery, so the insurance said we were responsible for $250 copay. We paid an office visit for the spinal tap, but then the hospital expected us to pay for the repair of the spinal tap.
To get back on topic, we dropped the neurologist. We found a better one who understands the neurological disorder that runs in our family. The old one will still sign my son's disabled placard renewal without a visit or charge, but I would never go back to that quack. My mom's brain MRI's had white spots, and he wanted to do brain surgery. He told her she had brain cancer and the only thing to do was a biopsy. She said she would rather die. So I took her to my neurologist, and he said it wasn't brain cancer. A dose of steroids made the spots go away, and cancer doesn't go away like that.
Doctors can drop us, but we can drop them just as easily. I would like to find a site where there is a forum to discuss local doctors and get others' opinions before going to them. Does anyone know of such a site?
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