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#63301 - 02/14/04 10:24 PM Tramadol - Ultram **
lemongrass Offline
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Does this stuff really work for people? I find it completely ineffective for my pain, which can be moderate to severe. To me, it's nothing more than Ibuprofen. Does seem to give me a bit of a headache though, which I don't understand. Thanks for any of your replies out there.

lemongrass


Edited by Melody (03/04/04 05:07 AM)

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#63302 - 02/14/04 10:51 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Yes. If someone offered me 20 Hydrocodone or 20 Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) but told me i cannot have both, i would choose the Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) because it works better
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#63303 - 02/15/04 12:14 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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It really depends. Given the type of pain and other individually mitigating factors such as physiology, tolerance, other medications being taken, etc. either has the potential to provide greater pain relief than the other in a given circumstance.

Despite its relatively new existence in the U.S. market (10 years or so), it has been widely available in Europe as one of the preferred analgesics, even among the available opiates at the time. I certainly wouldn't discount its potential out of hand.

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#63304 - 02/15/04 09:56 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Does this stuff really work for people? I find it completely ineffective for my pain, which can be moderate to severe. To me, it's nothing more than Ibuprofen. Does seem to give me a bit of a headache though, which I don't understand. Thanks for any of your replies out there.

lemongrass




My doctor gave a presription for Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) HCL to me and the dose was 1 to 8 (50mg) tablets per day as needed for pain.

Well, I took one about an hour before bed and noticed a mild headache that would not go away. It zonked me out.

The next morning, I wake up and I am feeling disoriented, confused and I could not concentrate for 30 seconds. I was also having mild hallucinations. This lasted for about 4 hours. I called my doctor and told him I would never take that junk again.

It seems some people do have bad reactions to this med. You won't know till you take it, so take the minimum dosage at first. If I had taken 2 tablets, I might have gone on a trip I was not expecting.

By the way, it didn't do anything for my back pain.

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#63305 - 02/15/04 10:11 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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This forum and thread are not to discuss supliers. Please saty on topic... this discussion is about the qualities of Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) / Ultram

Edited by Administrator (10/03/05 02:21 PM)

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#63306 - 02/15/04 10:15 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
brian37 Offline
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i have been on it for about a year now....I have kep a steady does in me and it has helped back pain.....tapering off gave me a headache.

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#63307 - 02/15/04 12:57 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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I've noticed quite a few U.S. sites now selling Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars). Which is great for me. I happen to be one of the lucky few that this med helps. You really have to monitor your dossage. I had a horrific experience with Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars). I hadn't taken any for a few days and when my order came I took three 50's. (was in bad pain). Well these things hit me like never before. I felt disoriented and confused. Kinda like taking a mild hit of acid for those of you who participated way back when. Even though I felt like a walking zombie my pain had totally subsided. Just be very careful with this stuff. Don't take more than 400mg per day. Many people have had seizures. Which can be deadly. If you are a legitimate pain patient and have the right body chemistry you're in luck!!!!!!!
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#63308 - 02/16/04 05:54 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) has helped my back pain quite a bit.
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#63309 - 02/17/04 07:33 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Hi,

I've been taking Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) lately, but I'd like to stop. At first it was helping my pain (barely), and it gave me a little "boost" sort of like oxy's do, but then it started doing weird things like some of you are describing. Such as, headaches, "floating" feelings like my head wasn't connected to my shoulders, (yes, sort of like a mild acid trip, which I don't need at WORK), and sometimes nausea. I'm getting ready to register with NWW so I can get Hydro, which at least doesn't make me feel "disconnected"

Have a pain free day!

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#63310 - 02/17/04 08:49 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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When I 1st started taking Ultram in 1995 they helped me alot, in fact as another poster said I would have taken the Ultram over the hydro because they lasted so much longer.
I have taken them off & on since 1995. And they just dont work that way for me anymore. I also didnt have TMJ pain in 1995 either I knew I had it but it wasnt hurting all the time like it does now.
I believe on some types of pain like my neck pain they helped that, but not for my TMJ jaw pain.
I think its time for me to take a break from them & maybe they will help again like they used to. I also think the US Ultram/Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) works better for me it seems stronger then the stuff overseas.
Tammy
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#63311 - 02/17/04 02:34 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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"floating" feelings like my head wasn't connected to my shoulders, (yes, sort of like a mild acid trip, which I don't need at WORK)





Ah hahahaha sorry to hear that. Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) seems to have strange effects on people. for me, it is close to perfect and has 0 side effects, then again i am extremely major depressed, so depressed that it must make me go from depressed to closer to normal, rather than from normal to strange side effects like others.

no i dont get headaches, no nausea, no floating feelings, none of that.

Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) has horrible withdrawl.

It does a good job on my physical pain. and the doctor was right, it is a good alternative to full opioids for pain

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#63312 - 02/17/04 03:06 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Ultram never did anything for me. It was like taking an over the counter medication. My sister was prescribed them once after my short encounter with them, and she said if she took two, they would make her a little sleepy but that was it.
For my level of back pain,in the past I've taken Vic Es or now the Norco 10/325.
Good Luck finding some relief~
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#63313 - 02/19/04 05:42 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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I was prescribed Ultracet at my first PM visit yesterday. NSAID's DO NOT work for me in pill form at all. I called the doctor and told him and he prescibed Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars)/Ultram 50mg. I've taken 100mg twice today and I have to say I really like the stuff so far--nice, easy, calming pain relief. I'm impressed. Is this a C-III--I assume that it is. Does it have Codeine in it? I know it acts similiarly to opiates.
Thanks! I'm very grateful I found DB.
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#63314 - 02/19/04 05:47 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Sorry, forgot to add that the only side-effect so far is dry mouth. In my college days we called this "cotton mouth." It's good to drink a lot of water anyway.
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#63315 - 02/19/04 06:03 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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At this point, it is not scheduled. I don't expect that to last long, though!!
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#63316 - 02/19/04 06:36 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Then I am completely confused as to the scheduling process. If Ultram isn't scheduled wouldn't that mean you could buy it OTC? Please excuse my ignorance on this subject.
Thanks,
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#63317 - 02/19/04 06:39 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Well, a lot of unscheduled meds aren't available OTC. Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) is recognized as having a high abuse potential, thus it will probably be scheduled soon. Oh what a wonderful world we would live in if the government would quit trying to "save us from ourselves".
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#63318 - 02/19/04 08:25 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) is recognized as having a high abuse potential




FROM THE ORTHO-McNEIL WEBSITE:
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promethazine {PHENERGAN}, etc.), or
• Other opioids.
Administration of Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) may enhance the
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• MAO inhibitors (see also WARNINGS – Use with
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• Other drugs that reduce the seizure threshold.
Concomitant use of SEROTONIN re-uptake INHIBITORS and MAO INHIBITORS may enhance the risk of adverse events, including
seizure (see WARNINGS) and serotonin syndrome.
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Funny that I was given this med considering I take Effexor XR, Flexeril, Amitriptyline AND Phenergan...

Makes me wonder if doctors even read these prescribing info documents???

Anyway, it doesn't work for me at all. Tylenol by itself is as effective in my opinion. But I also take methadone, so maybe that cancels out the Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) effectiveness?
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#63319 - 02/28/04 08:11 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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This forum is to talk about meds and not about OP's

Edited by DrugBuyers (01/30/05 12:46 PM)

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#63320 - 02/29/04 09:58 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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I am also one of the lucky ones for whom Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) is a lifesaver. I prefer it over opiates any time. BUT........, it is not good for acute pain, it needs to be taken on a regular dosing schedule to be effective, and it does have weird side effects on some people. I took it daily for nearly 9 months, ordered from good old click mostly, but I have become so paranoid about it, even though it is not scheduled, it could get me into some trouble is the LE decided to press the issue, because it is illegal to order ANY med overseas thru the mail, so I went cold turkey about 2 weeks ago. I was prepared for bad withdrawal since so many had mentioned it but there was none. I just felt a little more tired than usual. There is one terrible drawback tho, I suffer from restless legs, and the Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) controlled that perfectly, but when I stopped it came back with a vengence. Triple vengance.
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#63321 - 03/11/04 03:41 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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because it is illegal to order ANY med overseas thru the mail,





how do you figure or where do you get this info? correct me if im wrong, but it is LEGAL to import up to a 90 day supply of unscheduled meds

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#63322 - 03/13/04 08:22 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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As I understand it, you can import 90 days if you walk over a land border. Importing through the mail from overseas is illegal. Regardless of the schedule of the drug, even if you have a legitimate prescription from an american doctor. I could be wrong, but that is my understanding of the law.
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#63323 - 03/13/04 10:11 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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As I understand it, you can import 90 days if you walk over a land border. Importing through the mail from overseas is illegal. Regardless of the schedule of the drug, even if you have a legitimate prescription from an american doctor. I could be wrong, but that is my understanding of the law.




Not so on both counts, and they've been explained too many times already. The 90-day claim for travelers carrying meds used to be generally true, but not any more ... not exactly. And the FDA's 1988 Pilot Guidance for mail imports of legend drugs was never rescinded.

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#63324 - 03/14/04 04:06 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
tone Offline
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o come on, then why does customs open packages all of the time and then let them go on to the addressee??? why are there so many very professional IOPs like International AntiAging Systems that will ship to the US? of course its legal to import a 90 day supply through the mail.


im pretty sure its legal if its for 1) personal use and not for resale, and 2) a 90 day supply or less.


someone look it up

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#63325 - 03/14/04 04:46 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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You are wrong.
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#63326 - 03/14/04 05:36 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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I concur, alot of these sites misqoute the law to make you believe it is legal but it is definately not.

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#63327 - 03/19/04 10:54 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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Does Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) cause seizures or what in people taking antidepressant medication? what is the hard data ie., percentages, privileges
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#63328 - 03/20/04 03:26 PM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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I agree that Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) works better for pain than other opiate analgesics. I would compare 300mg of Tramadol (Click here for TramadolX180tabs for only 99.95 dollars) to 30mg of hydrocodone.

Edited by Melody (02/11/05 03:05 AM)

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#63329 - 03/21/04 11:10 AM Re: Tramadol (Ultram)
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its legal with a prescription. if i