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#535956 - 07/31/07 05:40 AM Norco 10.325 ..............
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this is directed to all reps or whomever who can help me find a solution.

It seems Norco 10.325 is THE most requested medicine from rop's. and the medicine that no pharmacies can keep in supply for any length of time.

are there any similar pain relief medicine that is not in so much demand and works as well as norco 10.325 ?

i have been been using this medicine for a very long time. and with all this dea drama over the last 8-10 months,,,, I just want your opinion on.,, If there is anything else I may request during my next consult that will not have the supply issues that norco has experienced from suppliers.
Or are the supply issues effecting all hydro ?

and I apolgize if this has been discussed before. I am at work and really don't have the time (at this time) to search. I am not lazy... just on a deadline at work.

thank you all for any help /advise you may have for me, as I am do for a reconsult soon.

thanks friends .....
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#535957 - 07/31/07 05:44 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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Next best thing, as far as low APAP content would be the Lortab 10.500's, imo.

If you don't care about APAP content, try Lorcet (10.650) or Vicodin HP (10.660). I would think those are not as in demand as much as Norco and Lortab.

The only problem you may run into with Lorcet and Vic HP is freshness. If they don't rotate stock often and they aren't heavily requested meds, they may be old or stale.

I would ask for Vic HP last, as I don't even think most folks know there is a 10 mg Vicodin.
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#535958 - 07/31/07 06:46 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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Part of the problem with supply issues with ROPs is not just whether the med is available (I had better luck with 10/500s than 10/325s) but how badly the pharmacy is backed up BECAUSE of that issue. There may still be delays even if you switch to an in-stock med.
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#535959 - 07/31/07 07:04 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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i agree the next thing would be loritab 10-500
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#535960 - 07/31/07 07:19 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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I would with the 10/500, and you post sounded like you didn't eve know that other "strengths" exist? Could be me or the way I read it. But ask for the 10/500 (watson), brand and you'll be fine and typically, there's never a stock issue for those. I think they work better too.
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#535961 - 07/31/07 07:56 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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I only order 10/500's as 10/325's are not as effective for me.

The only time I have had a serious problem getting meds was before me last fill--I waited 2 months and a couple of days for my refill.

I get the impression that 10/500 are getting harder to come by because of people switching from 10/325's to avoid delays.

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#535962 - 07/31/07 08:29 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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I've been prescribed Lortab for years simply because that's what I was first written when my back problems began. I suppose Norco is better for long term usage, but I don't adapt well to change (mentally).

I'd be willing to bet that a lot of folks think Norco's name is somehow derived from something to do with Narcotics, like some Latin root for the word. Instead, it was named so because of the town it was developed in, I believe Norco, California.

Up North, 'Brick and Mortar' Doctors refer to every hydrocodone forumulation as Vicodin (or "generic for vicodin"), regardless of composition.

They've never heard of Lortab, save for that first Doctor, long retired, who prescribed it. I suspect if you said you were taking Norco, they would think it was some something like Antabuse (last ditch remedy to keep an alcoholic from drinking without getting ill). Norco, something to prevent use of any other narcotic substance, sort of like subuxone.

The ignorance is astounding. In 1997, when I was still physically well more or less, I recall a doctor's form asking me what medications I've been taking. I put down that I had a prescription for Xanax. The doctor replied "That doesn't really count, everyone gets some stomach acidity now and then" (Zantac, he was thinking? )

Should have asked him to write me a prescription for 300 with "may be refilled" on it then!

I wonder why Zydone 10/400 is not popular at all. Seems it would satisfy both those who found relief in Norco or Lortab.

An earlier poster suggested that the less requested forumulations may not be as fresh as Norco, etc. That's quite possibly the case. However, I swear I took a Tylenol 3 that was about 10 years old out of desperation and did indeed get some relief.

Ironically, don't keep your medication in the medicine cabinet. Your bathroom tends to get too hot and humid to preserve it properly.

There are actually an astounding number of Lorcet and Vicodin hydro/apap combos out there. Somewhere there is a list.....

At this point, Lorcet 650 would do fine!

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#535963 - 07/31/07 09:41 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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I was just thinking about the Zydone (10/400). It seems to be the cheapest name brand hydro I've seen, and they have always been very effective the few times I had them. Back in the NDS days, the Zydone was the rage because they were selling it for $120/90ct. (they had "accidental" cheaper pricing than that for a few weeks). This was an NROP and I've never seen anything like it...I mean the threads were longer than "chatcp", and just in a matter of weeks. It was quite a frenzy and ultimately signaled the demise of the Saran hydro NROP's (and all the rest).

I see Zydone offered sometimes, and as P2all mentioned with the old T3's, opiates compounded with APAP usually last awhile (I've seen posts where people took 15 year old Percocet's and thought they worked fine). So even if there is more shelf life with less popular brands/strengths, any difference in analgesia from pharmacy purchased meds is most likely psychological or a RARE bad batch. Name brands are often softer and use higher quality fillers, so they are the safest bet. Some people swear by the brand (I used to), but now I'm happy to get anything.

Zydone is very soft and doesn't have a real bitter taste. If you can find it offered, it's just as good or better (for me) than Norco, and it is way better than Lortab for my money. Also, check to see if namebrand is significantly more expensive. If not, it could be a faster option.

(I'm replying to the OP and a little to patient2all...sorry for any confusion)

(Remember, Watson makes a few name brand products (Norco, Maxidone, etc.), but mostly they make generics. Name brand Lortabs are pink (like the dreaded Qualitest...the only formulation I hate is the Qualitest 10/500) with UCB on one side. Name brand Lorcet 10 is blueish with the letters "UAD" encircled. Name Brand Norco is aesthetically identical to the name brand...I believe brand Norco and Watson Norco are the same. Name brand Vicodin always says "Vicodin" on it...the "flying 'v'" does not stand for Vicodin. If there's any others I forgot, please list...oh yeah, XODOL is hydro 10/300 and offers the lowest APAP available without compounding, and it is new. No one knows about it but Repteur (and a few others). Hope this helps.)

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#535964 - 07/31/07 09:54 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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thanks guys.

I appreciate your time and effort to help me figure this all out ...


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#535965 - 07/31/07 12:56 PM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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Well I am just not a happy camper here at all after being with these people now for 4 years & going thru everything that has been happening & having the re re consult I was just charged an additional $10.00 from my last fill & they were delivered in 24 hours from when I ordered I was out raaged to find the "white pills" were sent to me with out them even contacting me to see if I would accept the different med before just charging me & sending them. If they couldn't send what I ordered they should contact me to ask what I want to do. I had been with out meds for 3 days & was getting quite ill & now I have pills I've been charged more for & can't take & cannot send back. Their practices are just so unfair. I told the Doctor I wanted Watson's & it's on my prior record they sent the Watson's whith my first order & now this. I am just beside myself over this one
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#535966 - 07/31/07 01:01 PM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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A few years ago I was at a new Rheumatologist office & I told him I took Norco he later asked(which I have NEVER had a problem with) how high my cholesterol was & I asked why he said well you said you were taking Norco ROTFLMAO I really had to explain to him Norco was a pain med
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#535967 - 07/31/07 05:11 PM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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You could also look into the drug Vicoprofen, which comes in only one strength (7.5/200.) It has 7.5-mg hydro and 200-mg ibuprofen (instead of the APAP found in all the other drugs mentioned.) It works for me, and gives your liver a break too. Good luck!
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#535968 - 07/31/07 06:20 PM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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Quote:

A few years ago I was at a new Rheumatologist office & I told him I took Norco he later asked(which I have NEVER had a problem with) how high my cholesterol was & I asked why he said well you said you were taking Norco ROTFLMAO I really had to explain to him Norco was a pain med
gizmo713




What was he thinking of? Zocor perhaps?

I know a woman who takes Zantac daily and she still couldn't remember if it was Zantac or Xanax when asked one time at the hospital...
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#535969 - 08/01/07 09:27 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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ROTF
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#535970 - 08/01/07 09:30 AM Re: Norco 10.325 ..............
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I need the 10 in the 10/325 nothing else works as well ;(
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#541598 - 08/13/07 09:59 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: gizmo713]
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i use the same thing and the next best is hydro 10/500 the only difference is the tylenol that is why everyone ask for 325 its easier on the liver. I believe the newest is one with 80 mg tylenol but i haven't seen it offered anywhere
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#541772 - 08/14/07 09:19 AM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: higby]
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 Originally Posted By: higby
i use the same thing and the next best is hydro 10/500 the only difference is the tylenol that is why everyone ask for 325 its easier on the liver. I believe the newest is one with 80 mg tylenol but i haven't seen it offered anywhere


Isnt that compound only?

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#542325 - 08/14/07 10:13 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: crey]
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I can't say for sure but i thought compounds were 15/500 but not really sure
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#542354 - 08/14/07 11:33 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: higby]
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Hydro Compounds in 10 Mg. form are: 10/80, 10/100 & 10/200 they come in a 15 Mg. form also: 15/80, 15/100, & 15/200 you can get all these with Acetaminophen or Ibuprofen. Hope this helps..
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#554182 - 08/31/07 06:12 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: Drew1174]
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Doesn't Ibu give you liver trouble if you take alot too?
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#554243 - 08/31/07 07:20 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: terminus]
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FYI, the vicuprofen does not have a generic & they are expensive. My dentist always offers them.
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#558864 - 09/08/07 07:32 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: iris]
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has anyone got norco yellow pill with a V on the back and 36 01 on the front? Is that watson?
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#558870 - 09/08/07 07:47 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: realdealx08]
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The v is for vicodin but i do not think they are watson although they are just as good but mine are yellow and say watson 853 they are 10/325 hope that helps
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#558876 - 09/08/07 08:09 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: higby]
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The V stands for the manufacturer "qualitest"......
Please don't take this the wrong way just trying to give accurat info....

On the good side I've never heard of that particular manufacturer having recalls such as malleck chem
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#558878 - 09/08/07 08:14 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: iris]
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hey iris vicoprofen does have a generic just picked up a script 2 weeks ago
Go to http://www.drugs.com and find yer way to pillwizard.com
anyway the generic has 5161 on it and made by TEVA pharm

Hope this helps
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#558890 - 09/08/07 08:38 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: SWEENSTER]
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Well I got it at a pharmacy as generic norco,as real norco is expensive and it says hydrocodone-apap 10/325 TABQUA. and it says "substituted for norco 10/325 tablet wat".maybe that "wat" stands for watson?And what is tabqua?
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#558892 - 09/08/07 08:41 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: realdealx08]
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That is a good question you can check on the website I provided in the previous post or................

"HEY NEPHRO WE NEED HELP ARE YOU OUT THERE???????"

If this poster doen't know it can't be found... Calling nephro are ya out there?????????????????????????????Help
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#558899 - 09/08/07 08:57 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: realdealx08]
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There is a great site out there, RxList.com, that will identify most pills by their imprints. In this case, it is indeed generic hydro...
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#558914 - 09/08/07 09:55 PM Re: Norco 10.325 .............. [Re: Survivor]
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They are Qualitest by Vintage (or the other way around).
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