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#508808 - 05/21/07 08:36 PM
Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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oldlotrat
Journeyman
Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 60
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I know I just did this yesterday and Oxycontin seems to have beaten MSContin hands down. Now let's try this one. Oxycodone vs Hydromorphone vs Methadone.
Thanks!!
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#508810 - 05/21/07 09:31 PM
Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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oldlotrat
Journeyman
Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 60
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I posted a poll yesterday asking people if they preferred MSContin or Oxycontin and OC won by 92% to 8%.
That's what I was referring to.
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#508816 - 05/25/07 08:58 AM
Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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oldlotrat
Journeyman
Registered: 05/15/07
Posts: 60
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oxycodone's pulling ahead......please keep voting. I'd love to see 100 votes to try and get an accurate picture of people's preferences. (Only at 50 votes right now)
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#508822 - 05/29/07 03:06 PM
Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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trixxie
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 05/23/03
Posts: 1111
Loc: ID
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For oral meds I think oxycodone products, oxycontin, oxycodone, and the 'holy grail' liquid oxycodone! BEST pain relieving properties. I had the liquid oxycodone post-op brain surgery/fusion and its great. I haven't had methadone. I have only seen people/friends on it, and I have my concerns with the nodding off that I see them do.
I don't do that on oxycontin/oxycodone for those that are tyring to distinguish between the two, even though there isn't a difference.
Hydromorphone, pffft, nothing. I had those and nothing. Now my doctor has prescribed the new drug, Fentora. Got to be careful with that one though, I wake up with a hangover from it. Saves a trip to the ER, and I long cry when the pain gets bad.
my two cents...spend as you like.
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#615012 - 12/17/07 02:26 AM
Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
[Re: scruf]
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Lynx4
Veteran
Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 588
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that's pretty weird, I was put on methadone because it regulated my irregular heartbeat, after I had suffered with it since childhood and none of the conventional meds worked. I would still be on it today if I hadn't lost kaiser ins., and the doc willing to rx it for off-use.
I have read about the threats to a person's heart from methadone. did you have a problem getting off this med? I thought I was going to die - it was the worst imaginable.
I hope the methadone did no permanent damage to your heart. is everything ok now?
oh - and the post I was referring looks like it was deleted or removed - he was running amok last night posting suboxone (or insert drug here) sucks, methadone ROCKS! on every thread. nothing else in posts, just those 4 words.
I did try to do a poll and filled in all blanks etc, but couldnt get it into the "posting" window. I'll try again when I feel a little sharper, middle of night now - to bed!
I didn't have any trouble getting off of the methadone, but I was only one it for 3 months and at low doses. At the time I was switched to Fetanyl patches and although I felt bad for a few days, I can't really say it was withdrawal. Not really something I want to do again. I've been told by my PM doc that as long as you stay at 30 mgs a day or less, you can get off of it pretty easily. I don't know since I didn't go above that amount.
I had another EKG done last month and my physician said it looked the same as last year's, so it doesn't appear to have done any damage. It's just a shame, because it was the only medicine that didn't make me wake up in withdrawal every morning. On the Opana I woke up running for my medicines, because everything that could hurt, did hurt. All the medicine was gone from my system by the time I woke up, whereas Methadone lasts longer and doesn't cause that to happen.
And I apologize if I was curt; I didn't realize that posts were deleted from some crazy running around screaming about how great methadone is. Although I agree, it definitely isn't something anyone should take without a doctor's care, as I wouldn't have wanted to go cold turkey off of it. The Fetanyl patches worked great to control any left over withdrawal from the methadone.
BTW, every drug screen I had to take during the time I was in PM management included a screen for Methadone. I don't know why, but they always checked off the regular 5 panel urine screen, and then added Methadone, with a 0% added next to it (meaning they were screening for ANY methadone, not just a cut off for a certain amount, like most screenings do). Gotta love PM docs and their paranoia.
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#615187 - 12/17/07 12:25 PM
Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
[Re: Lynx4]
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scruf
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/21/05
Posts: 2565
Loc: pacific nw
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immediately switching to fentanyl patches saved you from the hideous withdrawals of methadone I'm sure. I was on only 20mg for 2 yrs and even hydro barely took the edge off the withdrawals.
mornings are the worst, aren't they? even on methadone, mornings were killer, because I was taking the whole 20mg in the am. by bedtime, I felt crummy, by the next morn, my body was screaming. either I am a fast metabolizer, or methadone doesn't last 24 hours.
I am on sub now, and not waking up in withdrawals is a wonderful thing that I appreciate every morning. my back pain breaks thru, but it's better than the takepill-withdraw, takepill-withdraw rollercoaster of short-acting painkillers.
my heart is back to jumping around constantly, and I would trade back to methadone instantly if I could get it rx'ed by any doc for this off-use, but in todays climate it isn't going to happen. especially because of the discovery of the adverse heart effect you had. can't remember the name of it, but it pops up prominently on any doc's computer now.
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#615524 - 12/18/07 03:02 AM
Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
[Re: scruf]
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Lynx4
Veteran
Registered: 08/08/07
Posts: 588
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Yeah, I don't think methadone lasts 24 hours unless you're on hugh amounts like people take at Methadone clinics. Chronic pain users usually get something like 10 mg 2 to 3 times a day, since my doctor said that that small amount would only last for 8-12 hours in my system. I can imagine that if I took all my methadone in the morning, I would have definitely felt bad when I woke up. But I was able to take 10 mgs every night before bed, so I didn't wake up with any problems. (I took 10 mg in the morning, 10 at lunch at 10mg at bedtime). I gotta say that the chest pains scared the cr*p out of me, and now I worry about it all the time. My PM doc flipped when he saw my EKG and said "no more methadone" and immediately switched me to Fetanyl (although only the 25mg, which is probably why I didn't feel the greatest for the next few days). Without the fetanyl patches I can imagine I would have been very sick.
That's why I worry about anyone taking methadone without being under a doctor's care. If they run out, they are in for serious problems. I had a doctor that was trying desperately to keep me out of withdrawal, so that was a good thing. I guess that's why my PM clinic always checked for Methadone, except for the time that I was actually on Methadone. I wouldn't know where to get it besides my PM doc so it never bothered me to be checked for it, I just thought it was weird that it was always added to my urine screens. I have to assume it must have been a problem at my clinic and perhaps there are people there that had access to Methadone outside of the PM clinic setting, and they wanted to make sure I wasn't one of them *shrug*.
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