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#508808 - 05/21/07 08:36 PM Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
oldlotrat Offline
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I know I just did this yesterday and Oxycontin seems to have beaten MSContin hands down. Now let's try this one. Oxycodone vs Hydromorphone vs Methadone.

Thanks!!

Oxycodone vs Hydromorphone vs Methadone
You may choose only one
Oxycodone
Hydromorphone
Methadone


Votes accepted starting: 05/21/07 08:36 PM
View the results of this poll.


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#508809 - 05/21/07 08:46 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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You 'did' what?

And how exactly did oxy 'beat' the ms?

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#508810 - 05/21/07 09:31 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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I posted a poll yesterday asking people if they preferred MSContin or Oxycontin and OC won by 92% to 8%.

That's what I was referring to.


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#508811 - 05/22/07 03:52 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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bump. please keep voting on this one!!!
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#508812 - 05/22/07 03:55 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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#508813 - 05/22/07 05:16 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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bump
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#508814 - 05/22/07 08:46 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
oldlotrat Offline
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Just to clarify, this would be a vote for or against ORAL hydromorphone!!!
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#508815 - 05/23/07 08:59 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
oldlotrat Offline
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seems that we have a virtual tie here folks!!!!!!

Please keep voting!!

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#508816 - 05/25/07 08:58 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
oldlotrat Offline
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oxycodone's pulling ahead......please keep voting. I'd love to see 100 votes to try and get an accurate picture of people's preferences. (Only at 50 votes right now)
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#508817 - 05/25/07 09:07 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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K, i voted. I'd take the hydromorphone if given the choice.


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#508818 - 05/29/07 06:48 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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are you kidding! oxyccotin is the same thing as oxycodone.
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#508819 - 05/29/07 11:53 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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my personal experience with OC's is the stuff works wonders if your looking to feel good but as far as pain relieving properties it does absolutely nothing for my pain. The only other on the list i have tried is methadone and it worked wonders for my pain. If i had a choice it would be methadone all the way.

These drug companies are always trying to make more and more money, when methadone has been proven time and time again to be a great pain relever and it is extremely cheap. With this world we live in though, no one seems to realize how well it works because no one is making millions of $$$ off it. Like in that thread i just saw about someone going to a new PM dr and they put them on opana and said we have to get you off the methadone.... Thats BS, and crazy on top especially after the patient said they tried everything and was allergic to most other meds. Not to mention it was well documented in their records but yet the PA seemed not to care. As i stated before must be some sort of kick back. CORRUPTION is such a terrible disease!!!!!

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#508820 - 05/29/07 01:55 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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Methadone in my opinion is stronger than the other two. Hands Down...
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#508821 - 05/29/07 03:01 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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oxymorphone injection hands down
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#508822 - 05/29/07 03:06 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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For oral meds I think oxycodone products, oxycontin, oxycodone, and the 'holy grail' liquid oxycodone! BEST pain relieving properties.
I had the liquid oxycodone post-op brain surgery/fusion and its great.
I haven't had methadone. I have only seen people/friends on it, and I have my concerns with the nodding off that I see them do.

I don't do that on oxycontin/oxycodone for those that are tyring to distinguish between the two, even though there isn't a difference.

Hydromorphone, pffft, nothing. I had those and nothing. Now my doctor has prescribed the new drug, Fentora. Got to be careful with that one though, I wake up with a hangover from it. Saves a trip to the ER, and I long cry when the pain gets bad.

my two cents...spend as you like.
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#508823 - 05/29/07 04:18 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll
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everything on this poll is injectable
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#567212 - 09/22/07 06:21 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: mdog23rs]
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For me methadone hands down is the most effective reliever. I used to take 20mg OC`s for back problems but after injuring some discs in my neck they just didnt give me enough relief. Even at a dose of 3x40 daily. The methadone works at 110mg daily, so that would be my pick between the two. I would like to try the higher dose "Palladone" as I have found hydromorphone works for me at 16 to 20 mgs. but still this only works for 5 to 6 hours. So I believe as far as pain relief methadone wins, for me.
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#585648 - 10/22/07 05:31 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: flash79]
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yea all the people voting for OC have never tried methadone. methadone is better in literally every single way
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#585650 - 10/22/07 05:36 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: ffgdgfg]
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including withdrawal from it
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#586592 - 10/24/07 02:54 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: ffgdgfg]
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I didn't vote in the poll for reasons I'll list below, but wanted to express my opinions on the medicine listed.

Some people, although methadone works wonderful for pain, can't take it if an EKG shows any abnormal results. I was on Methadone at my pain clinic and thought it worked wonderfully until month 3 when I had chest pains for 4 hours or so a day. My doctor asked for an EKG and then immediately took me off of methadone.

I was put on hydromorphone for a short period and got no relief at all. So they changed me to OPANA ER (oxymorphone) and it worked great. No side effects, heart problems, nodding off, etc. It simply worked great until it wore off. I had percocets for breakthrough pain and honestly they didn't help a whole lot. I think maybe something like OPANA ER with OPANA instant release for breakthrough would be best.

I found oxycontin to be weird, because they made my brain feel 'high' but I got no pain relief. It made me scared to drive because I couldn't concentrate when I was on it.

So it makes it hard for me to vote. I think oral hydromorphone is useless for strong pain, I think oxycontin didn't work well on my pain, and methadone is not indicated for those of us with heart problems.

Perhaps a longer poll should be listed? One that has a larger range of medicines that PM clinics use. It would be easier for those of us that were in pain management to vote.

Just my .02


Edited by Lynx4 (10/24/07 02:56 AM)

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#614305 - 12/15/07 03:51 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: rockbottom]
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someone needs to do a poll on which med is the most horrible to withdraw from when pain subsides - I think methadone would win that one! (obviously it's a rec drug of choice for above poster)

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#614625 - 12/16/07 02:58 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: scruf]
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 Originally Posted By: scruf
someone needs to do a poll on which med is the most horrible to withdraw from when pain subsides - I think methadone would win that one! (obviously it's a rec drug of choice for above poster)

Admin comments: please be the one to ad the poll. Everybody can ad polls... it is easy... takes about 5 minutes once you know the question and the options...


I hope you weren't referring to me when you said it was the rec drug of choice for the above poster. I was on it for 3 months and had to come off due to chest pains and an abnormal EKG. I don't believe that made me a rec user. Plus, my dosage was 10 mg 3x a day. Not a really high amount. I've never taken it since, but wish I could, since I believe it worked really well for my pain. But I don't want to have a heart attack since I'm closing in on 50 years old, you know? (it caused my chest to hurt so bad that I'd spend hours holding my chest with my hands, praying for it to stop. At the time I didn't know that it was the Methadone; I thought it was just me and something new that popped up).

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#614626 - 12/16/07 03:19 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: Lynx4]
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that's pretty weird, I was put on methadone because it regulated my irregular heartbeat, after I had suffered with it since childhood and none of the conventional meds worked. I would still be on it today if I hadn't lost kaiser ins., and the doc willing to rx it for off-use.

I have read about the threats to a person's heart from methadone. did you have a problem getting off this med? I thought I was going to die - it was the worst imaginable.

I hope the methadone did no permanent damage to your heart. is everything ok now?

oh - and the post I was referring looks like it was deleted or removed - he was running amok last night posting suboxone (or insert drug here) sucks, methadone ROCKS! on every thread. nothing else in posts, just those 4 words.

I did try to do a poll and filled in all blanks etc, but couldnt get it into the "posting" window. I'll try again when I feel a little sharper, middle of night now - to bed!

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#615012 - 12/17/07 02:26 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: scruf]
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 Originally Posted By: scruf
that's pretty weird, I was put on methadone because it regulated my irregular heartbeat, after I had suffered with it since childhood and none of the conventional meds worked. I would still be on it today if I hadn't lost kaiser ins., and the doc willing to rx it for off-use.

I have read about the threats to a person's heart from methadone. did you have a problem getting off this med? I thought I was going to die - it was the worst imaginable.

I hope the methadone did no permanent damage to your heart. is everything ok now?

oh - and the post I was referring looks like it was deleted or removed - he was running amok last night posting suboxone (or insert drug here) sucks, methadone ROCKS! on every thread. nothing else in posts, just those 4 words.

I did try to do a poll and filled in all blanks etc, but couldnt get it into the "posting" window. I'll try again when I feel a little sharper, middle of night now - to bed!


I didn't have any trouble getting off of the methadone, but I was only one it for 3 months and at low doses. At the time I was switched to Fetanyl patches and although I felt bad for a few days, I can't really say it was withdrawal. Not really something I want to do again. I've been told by my PM doc that as long as you stay at 30 mgs a day or less, you can get off of it pretty easily. I don't know since I didn't go above that amount.

I had another EKG done last month and my physician said it looked the same as last year's, so it doesn't appear to have done any damage. It's just a shame, because it was the only medicine that didn't make me wake up in withdrawal every morning. On the Opana I woke up running for my medicines, because everything that could hurt, did hurt. All the medicine was gone from my system by the time I woke up, whereas Methadone lasts longer and doesn't cause that to happen.

And I apologize if I was curt; I didn't realize that posts were deleted from some crazy running around screaming about how great methadone is. Although I agree, it definitely isn't something anyone should take without a doctor's care, as I wouldn't have wanted to go cold turkey off of it. The Fetanyl patches worked great to control any left over withdrawal from the methadone.

BTW, every drug screen I had to take during the time I was in PM management included a screen for Methadone. I don't know why, but they always checked off the regular 5 panel urine screen, and then added Methadone, with a 0% added next to it (meaning they were screening for ANY methadone, not just a cut off for a certain amount, like most screenings do). Gotta love PM docs and their paranoia.

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#615187 - 12/17/07 12:25 PM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: Lynx4]
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immediately switching to fentanyl patches saved you from the hideous withdrawals of methadone I'm sure. I was on only 20mg for 2 yrs and even hydro barely took the edge off the withdrawals.

mornings are the worst, aren't they? even on methadone, mornings were killer, because I was taking the whole 20mg
in the am. by bedtime, I felt crummy, by the next morn, my body was screaming. either I am a fast metabolizer, or methadone doesn't last 24 hours.

I am on sub now, and not waking up in withdrawals is a wonderful thing that I appreciate every morning. my back pain breaks thru, but it's better than the takepill-withdraw, takepill-withdraw rollercoaster of short-acting painkillers.

my heart is back to jumping around constantly, and I would trade back to methadone instantly if I could get it rx'ed by any doc for this off-use, but in todays climate it isn't going to happen. especially because of the discovery of the adverse heart effect you had. can't remember the name of it, but it pops up prominently on any doc's computer now.

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#615524 - 12/18/07 03:02 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: scruf]
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Yeah, I don't think methadone lasts 24 hours unless you're on hugh amounts like people take at Methadone clinics. Chronic pain users usually get something like 10 mg 2 to 3 times a day, since my doctor said that that small amount would only last for 8-12 hours in my system. I can imagine that if I took all my methadone in the morning, I would have definitely felt bad when I woke up. But I was able to take 10 mgs every night before bed, so I didn't wake up with any problems. (I took 10 mg in the morning, 10 at lunch at 10mg at bedtime). I gotta say that the chest pains scared the cr*p out of me, and now I worry about it all the time. My PM doc flipped when he saw my EKG and said "no more methadone" and immediately switched me to Fetanyl (although only the 25mg, which is probably why I didn't feel the greatest for the next few days). Without the fetanyl patches I can imagine I would have been very sick.

That's why I worry about anyone taking methadone without being under a doctor's care. If they run out, they are in for serious problems. I had a doctor that was trying desperately to keep me out of withdrawal, so that was a good thing. I guess that's why my PM clinic always checked for Methadone, except for the time that I was actually on Methadone. I wouldn't know where to get it besides my PM doc so it never bothered me to be checked for it, I just thought it was weird that it was always added to my urine screens. I have to assume it must have been a problem at my clinic and perhaps there are people there that had access to Methadone outside of the PM clinic setting, and they wanted to make sure I wasn't one of them *shrug*.

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#615595 - 12/18/07 08:09 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: Lynx4]
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I think I understand why my PMD told me he doesn't rx Methadone anymore. He had rxed it for me and it was a great pain med but I was on xanax at the same time. I had a bad reaction to the two together. I asked him if we could try it again and be very careful with the Xanax. He said no it was bad medicine. He didn't explain why, so now I have a better understanding of why he doesn't rx it anymore. Also I don't think any of the long acting meds last as long as they say they do. Khilee
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#615721 - 12/18/07 11:54 AM Re: Oxycontin vs Methadone vs Hydromorphone Poll [Re: Khilee]
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so khilee - you've been thru methadone withdrawals too. were you able to use another pain med to lessen the blow?
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