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#431184 - 01/03/07 05:08 PM
Re: Spainmed
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Tootex
Stranger
Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 10
Loc: Europe
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Sounds gr8 that i can "play safe" and follow this tread before placing an order with them...
will be watching with intrest.
Edit:
I assume that itīs:
http://www.freewebs.com/spainmed/
we are talking about?
Edited by Tootex (01/03/07 05:15 PM)
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#431185 - 01/03/07 05:18 PM
Re: Spainmed
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lcath
Newbie
Registered: 04/19/06
Posts: 33
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I have been in contact with them and am placing a test order soon. I'll let you know my results as well.
You mean they actually responded to your email? I can't seem to get these guys to answer mine!
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#431187 - 01/03/07 06:21 PM
Re: Spainmed
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kalle_
Newbie
Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 37
Loc: Sweden
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I have been in contact with them and am placing a test order soon. I'll let you know my results as well.
I will be placing a small test order to. Not so small maybe..Depends on what u compare to. It is always nice to not have to pay cost for shipping and handling 
Just have to take care of a few things first.
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You mean they actually responded to your email? I can't seem to get these guys to answer mine!
I got a polite answer in less the 24 hours.:) Use a hushmail account(www.hushmail.com) when comunicating with IOP's I read somewhere on the board that it is easier to get answers from a IOP when using that type of email account.
Anyone know how long this guys have been in buisness? Anyone ordering and got their stuff that can tell about the quality of the meds and handling/shipping time?
/Take care everyone
Edited by kalle_ (01/03/07 06:24 PM)
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#431189 - 01/04/07 02:36 AM
Re: Spainmed
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meduza
Banned. Shill posting from Spain
Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 6
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I found them at: http://spainmed.0catch.com/index
as well...
Now they`ve put codeisan on their list as well.
My (the only one) order come through as it should.
Ps: What's the story on spanien? Are they still shipping?
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#431194 - 01/04/07 11:39 AM
Re: Spainmed
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akia1
Board Addict
Registered: 12/30/02
Posts: 351
Loc: The Deep South (USA)
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whoa, the whole Euro conversion deal has my head spinning...
& with MY luck, in ADDITION to the 10 Euro delivery charge I would get zapped for some ADDITIONAL conversion fee somehow...like I always have at other places that actually accepted Credit Cards (which THIS place does NOT...warning flag goes up up UP!!)
So, to all you daring, lucky Euros out there, best wishes for actual deliveries!! Keep us posted!!
Peace~~sLippy SKIPPY!!
prices are to good to be true...
60 Perduretas for 16euro or about $0.30 each
free hosting site
no CCs
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#431199 - 01/08/07 11:20 AM
Re: Spainmed
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dirty_harry
Stranger
Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 18
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I have made an order , paid bank to bank.
Order recieved about 1 week later.
Great packaging. Very good prices, ive ordered PERDURETAS.
5 Stars of 5 from me ! !!
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#431203 - 01/12/07 04:52 PM
Re: Spainmed
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nwyankee
Member
Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 149
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Can someone post about bank transfers, and how safe? they are?
You could PM me, I'm in the U.S, so far it looks like, from this thread, those in Europe use bank transfers. I'd like info on US bank transfers. this place does have super prices.
Thanks
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#431204 - 01/13/07 01:17 AM
Re: Spainmed
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patient2all
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 3473
Loc: usa
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Can someone post about bank transfers, and how safe? they are?
You could PM me, I'm in the U.S, so far it looks like, from this thread, those in Europe use bank transfers. I'd like info on US bank transfers. this place does have super prices.
While I'll readily use bank transfers with merchants I trust, I wouldn't dream of giving my bank routing info and checking account number to a place using free web hosting!
For both of those links, they pay nothing, they're free pages like you could get from Geocities, etc. You need not provide any info about yourself to set up such a page.
At least a site with a name like realmedicals.com had to pay for their hosting through some means, thereby leaving some way they can be tracked down. That would be a website, this is just a free web page.
Those pages could be built in a 1/2 hour and do not require that the entity identify themselves to anyone. I mean, look at the site title, one of the most important elements if you're serious about search engines finding you -- "Your Title Here"
I take that back, they spent less than 1/2 hour building this "page"
Admin suggests caution when using email sources or sites without a web. That's where these people fall and they use a hushmail account for emails to boot.
At least using Western Union, they can only scam you once, but giving them your checking account information, they can drain you. You might as well give it so some deposed Nigerian king we all get those emails from.
I'd rather pay a little more and use a credit card which many places based in Spain accept. I wouldn't send this place my bank routing information if they cost a penny apiece.
JMHO,
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#431205 - 01/13/07 03:11 AM
Re: Spainmed
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kalle_
Newbie
Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 37
Loc: Sweden
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Can someone post about bank transfers, and how safe? they are?
You could PM me, I'm in the U.S, so far it looks like, from this thread, those in Europe use bank transfers. I'd like info on US bank transfers. this place does have super prices.
While I'll readily use bank transfers with merchants I trust, I wouldn't dream of giving my bank routing info and checking account number to a place using free web hosting!
For both of those links, they pay nothing, they're free pages like you could get from Geocities, etc. You need not provide any info about yourself to set up such a page.
At least a site with a name like realmedicals.com had to pay for their hosting through some means, thereby leaving some way they can be tracked down. That would be a website, this is just a free web page.
Those pages could be built in a 1/2 hour and do not require that the entity identify themselves to anyone. I mean, look at the site title, one of the most important elements if you're serious about search engines finding you -- "Your Title Here"
I take that back, they spent less than 1/2 hour building this "page"
Admin suggests caution when using email sources or sites without a web. That's where these people fall and they use a hushmail account for emails to boot.
At least using Western Union, they can only scam you once, but giving them your checking account information, they can drain you. You might as well give it so some deposed Nigerian king we all get those emails from.
I'd rather pay a little more and use a credit card which many places based in Spain accept. I wouldn't send this place my bank routing information if they cost a penny apiece.
JMHO,
Is it really unsafe to leave out your bankaccount number? Seems to me it is a lot much more safe to leave out the bankaccount number then leaving out the creditcard number.
A person would have to show id when taking out money from the bankaccount but with a creditcard number it is possible to buying anything online without having to show id.
I think western union sucks bigtime.
It is a expensive and complicated way to send money.
Banktransfer is alot more convienient and cheaper then using Western union. It is more safe compared to using a credit card.
Just my opinion.
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Thanks drugbuyers for a great site.
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#431206 - 01/13/07 10:45 AM
Re: Spainmed
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nwyankee
Member
Registered: 07/07/05
Posts: 149
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Thanks for the replies. I probably would be paranoid about a bank transfer, but thats me
I tried WU online (I KNOW, its super pricey) had it going, then message to call an 800 number. They asked me if I knew 'him' and I said yes, and he asked WHY I was sending $$ and I said CD's and they refused to send the $$ they returned it to my MC, (which took a long time) So I dunno........
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#431207 - 01/13/07 12:27 PM
Re: Spainmed
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patient2all
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 3473
Loc: usa
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First, let me say that I have no experience with this place, they could be the most honest people in the world -- however, if they're not, you could be in a big jam and out serious money.
Let's just use this place as an example of what a "site" shouldn't look like.
They've only set up 2 free pages that require no payment or way to trace the person who put it up. Try it. You can set up a page like this on ocatch or freeweb in a few minutes.
To put up a modest "real" website costs only a little money, but you're providing some information to the hosting provider (forget what is on 'whois', that's meaningless). The web hosting provider knows who is behind the site, though admittedly scammers can obscure that information fairly easily too.
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it is a lot much more safe to leave out the bankaccount number then leaving out the creditcard number.
I'd say there is risk in either, but think of it this way. The average Jane/Joe has maybe $900.00 in their checking account, but a $10,000 line of credit on their credit card.
Should someone start put $700.00 of unauthorized charges on your credit card, you'll see it on your next statement. Since the "merchant" had to use a credit card processor, your credit card company can investigate and contact the sourceonce you challenge the charges. There is near 100% certainty that your chargeback will be successful, since the "merchant" won't fight it -- they know they're crooks. Often you can initiate the chargeback straight from your bank's website and you suffer no harm in the end.
If your checking account gets hit for $700.00, your mortgage, electric bill and everything else you allocated that money for will bounce. While you may get your money back in the end, you needed that money now , unlike the bogus credit card charges which could linger for a while without doing you any harm.
The bad charges made to your bank checking account could have been wired into an account which they closed the next day. I've been prudent with my bank account information, so I've never got into that situation, but your mortgage and other bills that bounced will have started accruing late fees and often both sides have to pay bank fees for the returned checks. Of course, your mortgage company and other bills that bounced will pass that back to you. "There is a $25.00 fee for returned checks" probably appears somewhere on each of your monthly bills.
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A person would have to show id when taking out money from the bankaccount but with a creditcard number it is possible to buying anything online without having to show id.
This site may have had to show some id when setting up the bank account you're wiring your money into, but they could charge you several times in a day or so, take the money out with a debit card and then and disappear. They're not showing anyone id each time they initiate a wire transfer on your account. They can perform additional transfers with the same ease that they did with your initial transfer.
To get a merchant account for credit cards requires considerably more effort than simply opening a checking account and having people put money into it.
You're imagining they're "writing" checks and cashing them. Not the case, I'm afraid. They can set up more bogus wire transfers the same way they initiated the one used for your med order.
Of course, you're right, both can be abused - but with wire transfer is easier to abuse than the credit card. Plus, you need that money in your checking account far sooner than you need to get some bogus credit card charges reversed. You now need to come up with the money to pay your bills now plus all the fees that are associated with overdrawing your checking account. That's not the case with a charge you didn't authorized on your credit card.
Unless things run very differently in Europe, I can't see how losing $700.00 from your checking account isn't vastly more inconvenient than having an unauthorized charge of $700.00 sitting on your credit card for a couple of weeks.
Credit cards are your "friends" in these sort of transactions and superior to any other form of payment, IMHO.
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I think western union sucks bigtime.
It is a expensive and complicated way to send money.
Banktransfer is alot more convienient and cheaper then using Western union. It is more safe compared to using a credit card.
Well, anything beats Western Union -- that's like handing cash to a stranger. That's the only time you're truly out of luck. However, with WU, at least you can't be beat for more than you wrote on the Money Order.
I really can't see how you can believe a bank wire transfer is safer than providing a credit card. Bogus bank transfers hurt you immediately. Assuming a bogus bank wire transfer is resolved by next month's statement, you're already in the hole for any checks you wrote that might have bounced. A bogus charge won't hurt most people (unless they're close to their credit limit) nearly as much if it doesn't get resolved until next month.
With wire transfers, fortunately, I have no experience with having to call the bank with no more than a hushmail email address and say I gave them all my banking info and they abused it 
Also, think of the embarassment if you've bounced a bunch of checks due to a bogus wire transfer - the $200 dollar check you sent your niece for her birthday bounced, you seem like a deadbeat to the cable company, your landlord, your family, etc.
That won't happen with a credit card. I have no problem with calling my credit card company and saying I made one purchase with a merchant in good faith and now unauthorized charges are appearing. The credit card company can deal with that. That's the case whether it's the original merchant double/triple charging you or someone else making purchases with your card info.
However, even though you may prevail in the end, it's a little harder to make a case for giving your banking info to someone@hushmail.com, then claiming they made more unauthorized withdrawls afterward.
Worst case scenario - where they keep charging your card under different merchant names, you dump the credit card. However, do you want to have to close your checking account should similar things begin happening?
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What's "cheaper" in the short term isn't always cheaper in the end. However, it depends how much of a risk taker you are. I know credit card issues can be straightend out. Wire transfer issues a bit harder. Western Union - bye, bye cash.
And this "site", whatever its level of integrity, offers no accountability in the event they are dishonest.
You should also question any site that won't go to the trouble of setting up a credit card merchant account. If they're a real business, what keeps them from acting like one?
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BTW, get bounce protection on your checking account. It's free, though you'll pay a high interest rate on any money you use from the credit line they give you. Still, that's far better than bouncing checks.
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I think what I'm saying here is a little more than opinion, it's knowing how the various payment methods operate. There are enough good places out there to buy from to take chances to a place like this with no accountabilty.
If you want to take chances with what are essentially "email sources", even though most will tell you it's inadvisable, that's fine. I just want folks to know the large risks involved.
Feel free to correct me where you still think I'm mistaken.
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