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#356323 - 06/20/06 02:25 PM
OS4U Hydrocodone
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Bats84
Journeyman
Registered: 05/21/06
Posts: 93
Loc: It Gets Cold Here
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Just trying to start a poll about something that has been debated in many different threads, for a long time. Trying to see how the majority feels about this med.
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#356327 - 06/24/06 12:24 AM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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Donna477
Stranger
Registered: 03/21/06
Posts: 2
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I am sorry to ask this, but what is OS4U Hydrocodone???
I believe they are asking about hydrocodone from OnlineSolution4U.com I get my modafinil from them and it was quick cheap and the meds worked fine.
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#356329 - 10/20/06 12:59 AM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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nycalt
Veteran
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 647
Loc: Florida - Gulf Coast
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I am curious as to what side effects there were. I took it and it seemed to work fine. I wonder if every one who took part in this poll really has ordered and tried them. jmho
Excellent point. A lot of people who do post negatives about them are just relying on a couple of posts from people they don’t even know who said they had “dangerous” reactions to them.
Don’t believe everything you read here. Not everyone is out to help inform people. This I know for a fact.
As I have said before, I know hydro and they are hydro. I have also researched who manufactures them and they seem legit or at least are not some "basement lab" as others have said.
I was skeptical as well when I first tried them, which is why I did some research (including all the threads here and on other boards) before I did.
They sure are not "dangerous fakes." I don't know where people come up with this GARBAGE.
Trust me, and I have used American hydro for over two years, as well as HUNDREDS of Raj's (OS4U's) hydro, often interchanging them with no noticeable difference .
I have also used Codeine, DHC, and other pain killers, opiate and not. I know the effects and the differences between each. I also have, unfortunately, been ripped off at other places who were selling some pill they claimed were hydro but turned out to be simply Codeine (usually) or DHC (sometimes). I can say without hesitation that OS4U's hydro works just fine and is, indeed, hydro.
But, this debate will never end. I actually think some people want other members here to think they are fake or even dangerous for some reason. Otherwise people are afraid of hydro that isn't American stamped with "Watson" or some other code that American and Canadian manufactures use for all their meds but most overseas pharmacies do not.
Who knows and who cares? Believe what you will. In the meantime I will be happy to continue ordering the well priced hydro from OS4U as I have for months now.
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#356333 - 10/20/06 09:05 PM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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patient2all
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 3472
Loc: usa
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It would be helpful if you would post your research. What pharmaceutical company manufactures hydrocodone outside of the United States? What foreign hydrocodone manufacturer is OS4U using?
Would be appreciated, NYCalt.
Once again, eerily, I was about to make the same post SandyFeet was, almost word for word!
If I had a little more confidence in the product, I'd think they'd be handy to keep around for an emergency.
Thanks to you both!
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#356336 - 10/22/06 09:37 PM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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shanesinpain
GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 2145
Loc: The Sunshine State
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This is a reply as to your doubts of hydrocodone being manufactured outside of the u.s. I can not speak for raj's hydro. But there is legitimate hydrocodone manufactured out of the u.s. Hydrocodone is available in canada by BRISTOL-MYERS SQUIBB CANADA
2365 COTE-DE-LIESSE SAINT-LAURENT (MONTRÉAL) QUÉBEC
CANADA H4N 2M7. This info comes from the health canada webpage. The tablets are called hycodan and are 5mg of hydrocodone
Can you post the link to this web page please?
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#356338 - 10/24/06 02:06 AM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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nycalt
Veteran
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 647
Loc: Florida - Gulf Coast
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It would be helpful if you would post your research. What pharmaceutical company manufactures hydrocodone outside of the United States? What foreign hydrocodone manufacturer is OS4U using?
Would be appreciated, NYCalt.
Once again, eerily, I was about to make the same post SandyFeet was, almost word for word!
If I had a little more confidence in the product, I'd think they'd be handy to keep around for an emergency.
Thanks to you both!
I apologize for the long delay in replying. I have been busy moving and starting a new job/career lately. Talk about stress!
Anyway, as I have posted several times before on other threads, the pills are made in Spain, not India. That is why Raj says right on the order page that he is "importing them" [to India]. Raj simply takes them out of their box which has all the information that you would be looking for.
Such as contents (7.5 mg hydro, 350mp APAP), manufacturer (Alice Pharma, Spain), bar code, prescription warning, seal with "don't accept warning," etc. It is all there. Should you not believe they are also sold by sites like www.medplus1.com at twice the price as Raj, but with the box (which would obviously increase seizure rates).
Also, keep in mind that most foreign made generic pills have no identifying markings on them..... In fact I can’t think of any, from antidepressants to benzo’s that do. Pill markings in the states are an FDA requirement. Manufacturers in Canada uses them also but that is about it.
Further debate on this subject makes no sense. People will believe what they want as will I. If you don't like them don't order them. But to say a consensus has formed that people think they are garbage is, well, GARBAGE. If you look at other threads on DB about OS4U you will see opinion is quite split. Even this poll is split!
Also, any drug company anywhere in the world could manufacturer hydro, whether it is popular in that country or not. The drug has been around for decades and the patent is long since expired. It is also a very easy drug to manufacturer. Do you know every drug manufacturer in the world? Just because they are not widely used doesn't mean they can't be made by some very smart small drug company for things like, well, internet sales.
In any case, as I said, I have been using them for many months without incident. I have used Codeine and I have used DHC. They are neither. I was also an American hydro user for several years before domestic NROP’s that sell them went the way of the do-do bird. I feel pretty confident saying that I know hydro quite well and its differences from other opiates, opioids, and other assorted pain killers.
But, to each his own. All I know is they are indistinguishable for me and I have switched between them and U.S. hydro even on the same day many times with no noticeable difference. How people claim they receive pills that smell or whatever is beyond me. Through many, many orders from Raj I have never had a bad batch or one that didn’t work like hydro is supposed to. That is all the proof I need.
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#356340 - 10/26/06 06:50 AM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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nycalt
Veteran
Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 647
Loc: Florida - Gulf Coast
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All I can say is I have used them, interchanged with American hydro when I can get it, for over 5 months now and have never had a "bad reaction," or "diesel fuel smell" (although I do smell the plastic casing sometimes when I first opne it up) of any kind or, for that matter, noticed much difference in effects.
From what I understand, though, he is using the same supplier as he always did. They are the round, white, unmarked tablets in flat plastic cases, which is normaly inside the box with a sticker on it but Raj removes them from. I even saw the outline of it on the plastic cases several times. The sticker, once again, states the "Vikodin" brand name and contents as 7.5mg hydro, 350 mg of APAP.
However, I am sure they are the same as the ones I ordered from medplus1 and some other site whose name I can't remember (they were even more expensive!) that were in the box and manufactured in Spain. It is possible that they were old, however, as the ones I ordered from medplus1 to investigate them back in April, had an expiration date of June 2006 (manufacture date of June 2004).
If you notice on the medplus1 web site they are called "Vikodin" there as Raj used to call them. Everyone made fun of him BIG TIME and some dissmissed them for that, but that is the brand name that is imprinted on the box....
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#356341 - 10/27/06 02:40 AM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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roguewolf
Old Hand
Registered: 04/27/06
Posts: 467
Loc: Port of Leith
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Goodness, how long will this go on? It is a fact that some people react differently to the same medication with different fillers. Anyone read on this board about Greenstones vs. Sandoz/Gadors, etc.? And I prefer Sandoz lorazepam to Watson anyday. And if it doesn't work for you then stop ordering it! He offers plenty of medications that are top notch. Some better than I have ever had in the US or Europe.
And it is just hydrocodone for god's sake. There is too much aspirin/tylenol in any Vik. product to ever give adequate pain relief. Your liver might hate you for it though. You have to eat enough Tylenol to kill a horse just for the mildest effect. I can't even get my new doc to prescribe anxiety/sleep medication, yet when I cracked my ribs I got 3 40mg. OC's a day plus 4 5mg a day of oxycodone for breakthrough pain. Although our entire medical system is completely backwards, it may be a hassle, but if you suffer from chronic pain, there are MRI's, Xrays, etc. and you will eventually find a compassionate doctor. It seems much harder to prove GAD/PD/PTSD. But that's okay, because all of Raj's anxiety meds I have tried have been great.
BTW, a friend of mine (yes a friend) just twisted his ankle pretty badly and was prescribed 90# 15mg. morphine. Maybe it is just the area I live in, I don't know. Anyone want to do a house swap? 
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I don't miss my span of attention, I do miss my old friend Timber. R.I.P.
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#356342 - 10/27/06 10:29 PM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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Dannyboy9
Journeyman
Registered: 10/19/04
Posts: 78
Loc: Liverpool, UK
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BTW, a friend of mine (yes a friend) just twisted his ankle pretty badly and was prescribed 90# 15mg. morphine. Maybe it is just the area I live in, I don't know. Anyone want to do a house swap?
I've just had 10 DHC120's. I didn't know they were time released and my throat is in agony. I'm taking Amoxil 250mg 4 times a day but it's absolute agony.
If that weren't bad enough, i order 90 of my usual Duromine (Phentermine) pills and receive 500 dexamfetamine instead. Not to mention I'm having loads of hassle with Paypal who refuse to see my mother as an independent person. Yawn!
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#356343 - 11/01/06 09:08 PM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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harry883
Member
Registered: 02/03/02
Posts: 183
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perhaps then he has gone legit with these...when i tried them it was awhile ago and he said he was getting them from within india...sounds like he switched suppliers. hmmmm...maybe i'll have to do a trial order...
It works perfectly.....
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#356344 - 11/09/06 04:23 PM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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chilly
Journeyman
Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 69
Loc: Stuck in the Metal years
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NyCalt -- I agree - I was in Canada a few months back for work and had to go to the walk in ER - I was given "Vik" at the clinic and they were the 7.5/350 type in a unmarked white oval tablet I may have some left if so will post a photo - they worked just fine - I think everyones chemistry (upstairs and down) is a little different --
The Chillmeister - a lurking DEA agent.... 
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#356345 - 11/14/06 11:47 AM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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phisher
Veteran
Registered: 04/21/06
Posts: 512
Loc: 30000 leagues under the sea
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they were the 7.5/350
you sure about that?
who makes 7.5/350?
i will double check but i am fairly confident that no one makes 7.5/350.
i know they make 7.5/325-7.5/500-7.5/750 and i think that endo makes a zydone that is 7.5/400 however i could be wrong but i will double check.
here is a list of all the hydrocodones i have found in CA and the U.s.
Abbott Laboratories VICODIN 5/500 White Oblong VICODIN Scored
Vicodin Image
Abbott Laboratories VICODIN ES 7.5/750 White Oval VICODIN ES Scored
Abbott Laboratories VICODIN HP 10/660 White Oval VICODIN HP Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A328
A 328 10/325 White Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A329
A 329 5/500 White Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A330
A 330 7.5/500 White Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A331
A 331 10/500 Blue Oblong
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A332
A 332 7.5/650 White Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A333
A 333 10/650 Green Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A334
A 334 7.5/750 White Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A335
A 335 7.5/325 Light Yellow Oblong Scored
Able Labs - imprint discontinued A345
A 345 5/325 White/Blue Specks Oblong Scored
Andrx Corp. Logo 567 10/660 White Oblong Scored, triangle logo
Carnrick Elan C8657
C 8657 5/500 Blue & White Capsule HYDROCET
Endo Pharmaceuticals E10
E 10 10/400 Red Elongated octagon ZYDONE E one side, 10 other side
Endo Pharmaceuticals E5
E 5 5/400 Yellow Elongated octagon ZYDONE E one side, 5 other side
Endo Pharmaceuticals E7.5
E 7.5 7.5/400 Blue Elongated octagon ZYDONE E one side, 7.5 other side
Forest - imprint discontinued Forest610A
Forest 610A 5/500 Yellow & Orange Capsule BANCAP-HC
Halsey - imprint discontinued HD574
HD 574 5/500 White Oblong
Halsey - imprint discontinued HD765
HD 765 5/500 White Oval
Halsey - imprint discontinued HD778
HD 778 10/650 White Oblong
Halsey - imprint discontinued HD779
HD 779 7.5/750
Halsey - imprint discontinued HD780
HD 780 7.5/650
Inwood Labs IL3622
IL 3622 7.5/650 White Oblong Scored
King - imprint possibly discontinued KPI1
KPI 1 5/500 White Round Scored?
King - imprint possibly discontinued KPI2
KPI 2 7.5/750 White Round Scored
King - imprint possibly discontinued KPI4
KPI 4 7.5/650 White Oblong Scored
Magna Pharmaceuticals Stagesic 5/500 White Capsule STAGESIC Imprinted in blue ink
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals ANEXSIA 5361 5/500 White Oblong ANEXSIA Scored, ANEXSIA one side, 5361 other side
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals ANEXSIA 5362 7.5/650 White Oblong ANEXSIA Scored, ANEXSIA one side, 5362 other side
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M357
M 357 5/500 White Oblong Scored
M 357 Image
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M358
M 358 7.5/500 White Oblong Scored
M 358 Image
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M359
M 359 7.5/650 White Oblong Scored
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M360
M 360 7.5/750 White Oblong Scored
M 360 Image
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M361
M 361 10/650 Blue Oblong Scored.
M 361 Image
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M362
M 362 10/660 White Oblong Scored
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M363
M 363 10/500 White Oblong Scored
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M364
M 364 10/750 White Oblong Scored
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M365
M 365 5/325 White Oblong Scored
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M366
M 366 7.5/325 White Oblong Unscored
M 366 Image
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M367
M 367 10/325 White Oblong Scored
M 367 Image
Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M4357
M 4357 5/500 Maroon Capsule Boxed M logo
Mikart MIA116
MIA 116 7.5/325 Orange Oblong Scored, MIA one side, 116 other side
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3591
V 3591 2.5/500 White/Red specks Oblong Scored
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3592
V 3592 5/500 White Oblong Scored, V one side, 3592 other side
V 3592 Image
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3594
V 3594 7.5/500 White/Green Specks Oblong Scored
V 3594 Image
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3595
V 3595 7.5/650 White Oblong Scored
V 3595 Image
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3596
V 3596 7.5/750 White Oblong Scored, V one side, 3596 other side
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3597
V 3597 10/650 Blue Oblong Scored, V one side, 3597 other side
V 3597 Image
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3598
V 3598 10/660 White Oblong Scored, V one side, 3598 other side
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3600
V 3600 10/500 Pink Oblong Unscored, V one side, 3600 other side
V 3600 Image
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3601
V 3601 10/325 Yellow Oblong Scored, V one side, 3601 other side
V 3601 Image
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3604
V 3604 5/325 White/Orange Specks Oblong V one side, 3604 other side
Qualitest Pharmaceuticals V3605
V 3605 7.5/325 Pale Orange Oblong V one side, 3605 other side
Schwarz Pharma SP2104 500 5
SP 2104 500 5 5/500 White Oblong CO-GESIC Scored, SP 2104 one side, 500 5 other side
Teamm Pharmaceuticals TP 10 300 10/300 White Oblong XODOL Scored, TP one side, 10 300 other side
Xodol Image
UAD Laboratories UAD1120
UAD 1120 5/500 Maroon Capsule LORCET HD
UAD Laboratories UAD6350
UAD 6350 10/650 Blue Oblong LORCET Scored, UAD one side, 6350 other side
UAD 6350 Image
UAD Laboratories UU201
UU 201 7.5/650 White Oblong LORCET PLUS Scored, UU one side, 201 other side
UCB Pharma ucb901
ucb 901 2.5/500 White/Red specks Oblong LORTAB 2.5 Scored
UCB Pharma ucb902
ucb 902 5/500 White/Blue Specks Oblong LORTAB 5 Scored
UCB Pharma ucb903
ucb 903 7.5/500 White/Green Specks Oblong LORTAB 7.5 Scored
UCB Pharma ucb910
ucb 910 10/500 Pink Oblong LORTAB 10 Scored, ucb one side, 910 other side
Watson Pharmaceuticals Maxidone634
Maxidone 634 10/750 Yellow Oblong MAXIDONE Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Norco539
Norco 539 10/325 Yellow Oblong NORCO 10 Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Norco729
Norco 729 7.5/325 Pale Orange Oblong NORCO 7.5 Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson3202
Watson 3202 5/325 White/Orange Specks Oblong Scored, Watson one side, 3202 other side
Watson 3202 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson3203
Watson 3203 7.5/325 Orange Oblong Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson3228
Watson 3228 10/750 Yellow Oblong Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson349
Watson 349 5/500 White Oblong Scored
Watson 349 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson385
Watson 385 7.5/500 White Oblong Scored
Watson 385 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson387
Watson 387 7.5/750 White Oblong Scored
Watson 387 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson388
Watson 388 2.5/500 White Oblong Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson502
Watson 502 7.5/650 Pink Oblong Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson503
Watson 503 10/650 Pale Green Oblong Scored
Watson 503 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson517
Watson 517 10/660 White Oval Scored
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson540
Watson 540 10/500 Blue Oblong Scored
Watson 540 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson853
Watson 853 10/325 Yellow Oblong Scored
Watson 853 Image
Watson Pharmaceuticals Watson913
Watson 913 5/325 White/Orange Specks Oblong NORCO 5 Scored, Watson one side, 913 other side
Edited by phisher (11/14/06 11:59 AM)
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#356346 - 12/14/06 03:22 PM
Re: OS4U Hydrocodone
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mica
Banned. Posting about a "great" source and not naming it. Asking for PM's for source.
Registered: 08/31/06
Posts: 11
Loc: Interzone
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Although I've never managed to get the vicodan sold in the US as its not used in my country to my knowledge I have used Raj's vicodan. I obviously cannot do a proper comparison but I have noticed effects different to codeine, DHC, dextroproproxyphene and Tramadol.
I have a back injury (sustained during a session with a chiropractor following a minor car accident - which produces severe pain similar to sciatica but a permanent sharp pain in both legs for a few days each month. My doctor tells me to take ibuprufen  for it but that doesn't even touch the pain so I have to self medicate.
I initially ordered darvocet from raj (darvocet aka co-proximal is generally no longer prescribed in the UK because some ppl accidentally killed themselves by taking a relatively small number with some alcohol) as I'd been prescibed it and it had reduced the pain enough for me to function but decided to try the vikodan because I'd heard it was stronger so I decided to risk trying them.
Yes I sued both the chiropractor and the driver and the manufacturer and retailer of my own car as the air bag didn't go off. I sued them because my teeth and upper jaw bone were damaged but easily fixed with the settlement. OK, so I'm an evil serial suer but the man shouldn't have been drunk and they should've made the car better. I also once got an out of court settlement because some automatic doors didn't open at a supermarket and I walked straight into them - not deliberately. All I had to do was tell the manager my intention to sue and get a letter written. Probably shouldn't have said that as its not that funny. Society has gotten so litigious even to the point that my 92 year old grandmother got paid £100,000 for a couple of scratches she got on her hand from tripping on the pavement and six months later twice as much for slipping in a supermarket and fracturing her wrist. Currently she's suing the council again... I'm actually despised by some relatives because I convinced her she should have a go the first time and they regard me as a charlatan because I can still dance etc as well as I could before the accident. Unfortunately pain cannot really be proved)
One day I got the pain particularly bad and took a couple of vikodan. I can't honestly say I found them that pleasurable but the pain had completely gone. I simply felt fuzzy, physically numb and a little confused. Perhaps opiates affect me a bit differently to most people as for the most part I don't experience euphoria. A couple of nitrazepam are better if I feel I need something for "psychological discomfort." Raj's banana clonazepam are nice too (the fact they they are dispersible is slightly disturbing really - it makes me wonder if people give them to their children to keep them quiet. I know a fair few ppl who are overly liberal with the calpol) Both benzos actually reduce my physical pain too, even on their own.
I agree with the person who posted that the fillers and binders in medicines can change their effects. In the UK I can get co-codamol ( 500mg paracetmol/acetaminphen with 8-12.5 mg of codeine phosphate depending on brand. Some contain codeine phosphate hemihydrate instead) Generally I use the cheap generics that cost £1.15-£2 ($2.25-$4) for 32 (UK online pharmacies will often ship them to the US, along with Paramol (containing 7.46 mg DHC per pill)and also a anti-diarrhea medication that I've forgotten the name of but contains morphine, although not really enough to make it worth your while - 20mg a bottle. There are also losenges/tablets containing it but avoid these as they contain other active ingredients).
Anyway back to the point, different generics can affect me very differently. One made by Boots (8mg codeine phosphate hemihydrate) make my gums and nose go numb, those manufactured by another company, containing the same stuff makes me dizzy to the point I've fallen over but they didn't get rid of the pain whereas the Boots one's did. Another produced by a different company containing codeine phosphate make my nose run and reduced pain, another make me itch but didn't get rid of pain. One brand actually causes a dull ache in my jaw but gets rid of the leg & back pain but the jaw ache is just as bad. Taking paracetamol with pholcodeine (cough syrup with 1mg per ml of codeine phosphate, ethanol, chloroform, sugar and other stuff) can be the best choice with less side effects as long as not too much is taken. Itching and rhinitus are the usual side effects from this and can be gotten rid of with antihistamines but these will probably make me go to sleep.
Raj's vicodan look alot like a cheap version of the health suppliment glucoseamine and so hiding them isn't too hard. I can keep enough in the house without too much fear of arrest if they are seen. Everything else I only dare keep a couple of doses in as my local police force are very heavy handed on anyone they believe to be a drug user, even cancer patients have been given suspended sentances for simple possession of cannabis even though its been downgraded to a class C drug. They tricked a friends mother into saying she'd share her cannabis with a fellow cancer patient. She got a 3 year suspended sentance and a fine. Someone else I know was robbed and thumped in a shopping centre and the culprit only got 200 hours of community service. Also in the area I live only 2.5% of rapes result in a conviction. Sorry to rant. I also appologise for rambling - I believe I got up yesterday morning.
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