I think there is a very real problem !

I live in Germany and iīm waiting 11 days now. Nothing received ! It normally takes 3-7 days !

And other users still waiting nearly 2 weeks for their MEDS AND AN E-MAIL RESPOND, too !!!

Why donīt they answer to e-mails anymore ? Donīt care ?

Well, my friend, you are the lucky one. The only one receiving right now. There are no customs issues in my area, I've never had a problem with packages coming. If my order doesnt arrive it's due to one thing...it not being sent! If that's the case we should (And there are ALOT of us on here) we should all stay away from anything or anyone in Spain. For a while. We can all band together and hit em where it hurts! The Wallet! Im not downing Perdur yet, im on day 8...still waiting. I have faith in people and their word until they prove me wrong.

Perdur...if you are reading this. PLEASE make right what is wrong, or we can get the message out about you and you will feel the loss. Trust me! Besides, wouldn't you rather a loyal customer base of hundreds if not thousands of people, rather than rip off a few? What is more profitable? It's basic economics! At least hit us with emails and let us know if there are problems or delays, we'll understand. Or come on the board here and defend your business practices. We all can understand snags, hitchs and issues and im sure we'd all be willing to wait if need be, as long as you deliver. I have faith in you PERDUR! You can do it.

JP

A little pathetic, donīt you think ?

Iīm really really pissed of. I will wait some days now. If i donīt get my Meds, i will do anything to close this site. Including Europol/Interpol !!

These are the same guys who started on freewebs/spainmed, freewebs/Codeisan and freewebs/perduretas long ago.

They just profit from the legislation, that Codeine Products like Perduretas or Codeisan can be buyed easily without prescription in Spain. Thats all !!!

And 1 Pack Perduretas ( 60 pills ) is about 9$ in Spain !

Well, they stand to make a lot of cash staying on the up and up. If they cut and ran, I dont know what's going on there. BUt if you are right about that pricing, then they make HUGE profits selling to us! I think we will all receive, I cant see them shooting themselves in the foot. Im just trying to stay positive. If not, then I have your back, we'll all get together and do what we can to out them when they resurface. I'll hit every board I am memebr of as well as do what you were saying about going to their providers and letting them kow about a potential scam. But give it some time, maybe they ran into some probs there.
I still have faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JP

PS- When the hell will this NEWBIE tag be removed from my name grrrr DO I need 100 posts for it to change?

I agree JP1 (( thnks for the link )) I would THINK they are a stand up company, BUT after reading this Im going to send them a polite email inquiring about what others are saying. This would be my 1st order with them and thier prices are great for perds! for both thier profit margin and for us to, so to go scamming people makes no sense business wise. I also have faith in them as I only ordered about 8 days ago. Time will tell and I will keep you all up to date with my status with them. Dont forget the postal system Isnt perfect either... BUT of the dozens of IOPs I order from eventually my order always has make it to me even if on a re-ship so we shall see and I will just keep watching my mailbox I suppose for a few more days.

It's not the delivery time that bothers me as much as its the lack of email responses. I also sent them an email asking them to defend themselves in this matter even though I don't have any outstanding orders with these guys.
I was concerned for those of you that do have orders and also, selfishly, concerned for any future orders I may want to make.

That email was a couple days ago and I have not heard anything back. I used to get emails on the weekends with these guys even during the summer months.

Amen to that bro! I dont have a problem waiting. Like I said before, we are all lucky to be able to do this at all. But the lack of responses leaves me wondering...if I do get my order, will I order again? Prob yes But its gut-wrenching thinking that I talked to these guys back and forth with many emails before I sent payment, and once I did. MUTEVILLE. I too sent a similar email Blade, I'll let ya know if get a reply.

No prob for the link Cocacola, Im in the same boat as you so I figured you'd appreciate this thread here.

I'll tell ya, if I do get the order, i'll feel pretty bad for participating in this lamb baste, but I havent relly downed them, im just worried due to everyone elses experience as well as the lack of communication. I do recall reading here that they are notorious for not communicating the receipt of funds and or the shipping of the parcel.

JP

Update as to MY order with http://perdur.awardspace.com/ Delivered in about 8 days (120 Perds) nothing mising in my opinion a stand up company THAT DELIVERS quite fast too!

GREAT BRO/SIS! I hope to be reporting the same thing in the next few days!!

Talk to ya

JP

Bro works better !!!! Yeah JP1 I wouldnt worry Im quite sure youll get what you ordered. I wrote them an email and they explained to me about certain individuals that cause trouble for them and are trying to give them a bad name IN MY OPINION THEY ARE GREAT. I know I only made one order but they delivered, they respond to emails, and they shipped when they said they would ship post mark proves this.
http://perdur.awardspace.com/ IS LEGIT I have no idea what kind of re-ship policy they have ( if any) ""But packaging was about an 8 out of 10"". So if customs does go through yours Im not sure if they re-ship or not, Ill ask them the next order I make. I GIVE THEM 5 Stars and would deffinately order from them again as they are NOT SCAMMERS otherwise they wouldnt have emailed me back explaining themselvs to me and about why they are getting a somewhat bad reputation on here. And NO IM NO Shill AND IN NO WAY AFFILIATED TO THEM IN ANY WAY other than ordering AND RECIEVING and being grateful that thier a Stand up company!
I hope you get your order soon JP1 Im quite sure they deffinately sent it ( I ordered mine Sept 26 ) Keep us posted!

Well, in light of some new information. Im frickin pissed!!! Something is going on, and I'll fill you all in on the details as soon as Perdur gets back to me. We are going back and forth with emails now. The same may have happened to Testerone. If so, I understand totally, his frustration.

JP

Worst of all is today is my frickin birthday, and I get this horrible news that I may have been HAD!

Can anyone confirm or deny is Perdur1@hushmail.com was recently an email address used by Perdur.Awardspace.com? It would be a big help! I could sware I found that email on their site in late August.

Thanks!!!

JP

14 days now. NOTHING RECEIVED !

Now they write, that they are "not related to the codac-address". I donīt understand this !

I ordered on this site. Then i got an answer from codac@hush.com and now they say that they are not related to codac@hush.com ?

Sorry, I mean Perdur1@hush.com

Hey,

The same kind of thing happened to me. Perdur5 is telling me that they have no record of my order. I am investigating the situation and will explain the whole situation so you all can avoid what happened to Testerone and myself. But for now, DONT USE CODAC@HUSH.COM and DONT SEND MONEY TO "EDUARDO HENDRICUS PUIJK" in Malaga Spain.

Something is afoot!

JP

I think they try to fool us ! Itīs illogical !!!

No it's logical. I emailed them at the the email addy that I got from their site in late August. The email was forwarded from Perdur1@hush to Codac@hush. Then I was told to correspond only using the codac@hush address. I did, and now Im jipped! Nothing illogical about it Captain...on the contrary it's highly logical and devious, and apparently...effective!

We suck!

JP

I RECOMMEND THAT EVERYONE HOLD OFF ON ORDERING FROM HERE UNTIL IT'S DEEMED SAFE. APPARENTLY SOMEONE IS INTERCEPTING THEIR EMAILS AND POSING AS THEM. BUT IM NO ONE'S MOMMY.

Perdur is FULLY RESPONSIBLE for this [censored] !!!

I maked an order and used the mail-address on their site. Then i received an answer from codac@hush.com and he gave me the payment information.

And now they tell me that they have nothing to do with codac and leave me alone ??

THATS OUTRAGEOUS !!!!!

They told you to leave them alone? Were you polite to them or mean? I understand if you were mean because you were robbed, but perhaps a more peaceful approach would have been in your favor.

I have to agree with you that it is their fault. It is their site that was invaded, by an employee of theirs! We did nothing wrong but go to their site and follow instructions. They should make this right! If not, then I suggest that all who order from here regularly be warned that this could happen to you too at any time. I think Biotran is everyone's best bet. Unless Perdur can correct and compensate those who were ripped off, me included, I suggest you all think twice..3 times, before ordering from here ever again.

JP

I can only recommend to everybody NOT TO ORDER FROM THEM !!!

Their own employees getting out of control !

They disgrace themselve !!!

I got a response from these guys and it seemed pretty genuine to me. They believe a couple of people are trying to trash their reputation and mentioned that other email address and that it had nothing to do with them.

I am sorry but I have had nothing but perfect experiences with these guys so perhaps I am biased.
I memtioned in a previous email that it sounded like someone was trying to trash these guys or maybe their site got hi-jacked. Perhaps in this case a little of both has happened. It is possible someone from the inside intercepted some of your emails from first time customers maybe?

I know several things for sure about this company:
1) They are not in the habit of giving samples out to customers that do not have a previous history with them. I actually sent extra money with the first order for some samples and did not receive them. I didn't blame them for the no show on the samples since they never said they would send them in the first place. I did not get samples until my third order.
2) They have never scammed me, never short changed me, never disregarded my emails or have taken longer than 7 days to deliver.

For those of you that got scammed I completely understand how pissed you are as I can't stand going to the mail box everyday waiting for my products and finally realizing they are never coming.

I still don't believe the operators of this site are intentionally scamming anyone, its just stupid business, but if their emails are getting intercepted they need to clean up their act and use something like safe-mail to increase their security.
I tend to believe they may have a rogue employee or someone that gained access to their emails which is still, in my opinion, there fault. Just to build good will they should make it right with those of you that got scammed ... probably just a wet dream.

I don't have any need for any of their products at this time but I was thinking about just making a test order to see if my one and only PERD source has gone away and to back up my words with actions. Even if I get my order that doesn't mean other people aren't getting theirs.

Use your own judgment as always.

For three years theyīve been perfect with me.

Hello Testerone and JP1, I really understand your being angry! I would be too! But it is possible Perdur is being scammed also!! If you would, please tell me if you were using a regular web mail account like Yahoo, Hotmail or using Outlook thru your ISP provider to contact them or did you get a Hushmail account? Thanks for any info!

The WEB

HELLO EVERYBODY !!!

YOU ALL SHOULDNīT ORDER FROM THEM ANYMORE, BECAUSE I WILL MAKE ABUSE REPORTS TO AWARDSPACE, HUSH.COM AND EUROPOL/INTERPOL/DEA !!!

OK This is it...I have to eat crow! r something like that.

PERDUR.AWARDSPACE.COM is cool and honest and on the up and up, please disregard my previous posts and use THIS ONE for my experience in total. They are saints and the problem was an ex-employee of theirs named EDUARDO HENDRICUS HUBERUS PUIJK. Here's the skinny, dont be afraid of them now.

Late Aug, I contacted them on the Perdur1 addy, thru my hotmail account. The message was forwarded from Perdur1 to codac@hush. Then I was told by codac@hush to correspnd to them using that addy. I went and got a hushmail account and continued correspondance thru there with codac@ hush.

He sent me a sample of Perds (20) I was like WOW, really, I only expected 2 pills or something. So I asked him for his receiver details and he tried to give me his home address, which I HAVE and WILL post. Asking me to send the money there. I was confused and said cant we just got thru Western Union (REDFLAG #1) But stupid me, send him the money to Malaga Spain. I informed him of the details and I never heard from him again.

I tried contacting him repeatedly, nothing. Then I went back to Perdur's site and saw the email had changed from Perdur1 to Perdur5 so I emailed them. They got back to me saying that they had no info on my ever ordering. So I explained to them "politely" what happened with Eduardo and the sample and I gave them the whole story and told them the MTCN and yu know what?

They wrote back tday telling me that they were sorry that this happened, and for the future to understand that Eduardo doesnt and will NEVER work there. AND, they are sending me my order anyway! 180 perds. Thats amazing to me. I cant believe it and will shop in no other IOP if they are true to their word. So as it stands they are cool in my bok so far. Im so sorry for posting like 100 times in this thread, I was just trying to help you all out.

Long story short:

Perdur.Awardspace.com GOOD
EDUARDO HENDRICUS PUIJK BAD

I'll let you all know when and if it arrives, they told me they will ship it this Friday.


PS-Blade, I totally hear that with checking the mailbox and being depressed, im sure we ALL can relate to that.

Thanks for listening and I hope this helps someone!

JP

Here is Eduardo's Address or the place he asked me to send the money, Im just posting in his email to me in full, I hope this helps naive people like me!

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Hello again JP, good to hear it worked out good. You are very
welcome to place your order. please use the folloing receivers
information for westernunion : name : Eduardus Hendricus Hubertus
surname : Puijk
adress : plz. San Francisco 8-11-1g
26008 Malaga Spain
Please make sure you spell all the names good. As soon as you send
us the money transfer control number we will pick up the money and
send out your order directly. Thank you very much and have a nice
weekend.

p.s. please use codac@hush.com for further correspondence.
-----------------------------------

Let me reiterate, that this was not Perdur's fault, they were scammed by someone who worked for them. They have corrected the problem and it's business as usual. I will let you all know about the re-ship that they promised me (Which they really weren't obligated to do) but have offered to do.

Thanks for listening,

JP

Testerone,
~I understand your anger! I too have been scammed before but it was an IOP named GalacticPharm ! I was very angry and wanted revenge!! Some people seem to have luck with him while others do not! I do think he was trying to be an honest IOP but I think he is having a simular problem as Perdur except Someone is snagging his shipments before they leave Manilla!

~I can honestly say, I have been ordering from Perdur for over 6 months now and have received every order but one and they kindly re-shipped that one! So I am 6 for 6 with them!I had gotten the tip about Perdur from a friend who was very satisfied with them! Please, do not try to get them in trouble because it will only cause those of us who depend on them to suffer! I recommended them to a friend in the USA and he was scammed by this "CODAC@HUSH" whomever that is! He had the same thing happen to him! He emailed them and received an email back telling him to use the "Codac" email only and send $$ to this EDUARDO HENDRICUS PUIJK fellow! I did not know about it until it almost happened to me as well! They used the same name: EDUARDO HENDRICUS PUIJK However, I was very suspicious because the email address did not match the one on their website! So, before I ever sent any more$$ I emailed Perdur at the original email address on their website! Sure enough, I was warned by Perdur not to use the "Codac" email addy ! They say it is someone that was a former employee and he intercepted some of their emails from people not using a Hushmail account and scammed several people! I had a feeling it may be because I and my friend were not using a Hush account! We were just using regular Yahoo WebMail! I now have a Hushmail account and have had no new incidences! Perdur told me they have absolutely no connection with this "CODAC/EDUARDO HENDRICUS PUIJK" at all!! I have to believe them because they have always done me right and they have been around for quite awhile!! Please do not blame Perdur for another's dishonesty! It is impossible to control what other people do! People have their Identities stolen everyday and it wreaks havoc with their lives because someone usually scams someone else using their name! They get the blame but did nothing wrong! I hope you see my point?! Some people are clever enough to be able to break into or reroute email and private accounts! When that happens to someone they are just as much a victim as we are! I recommend not to order until you have a Hushmail account and use the email address on their website! The internet world can be an insecure and sometimes dangerous world! But, it can also be a lifesaver! I know if you are like me it hurts to lose even a Euro or a Dollar! Because I am in great pain and suffer much, I can only make so much money(I get no assistance from the Govt or anybody else). I struggle to get through each day!! I have been treated very unfaily by doctors in my 52 years and have had to do as you and find an alternative source for pain meds! The last 4 out of 8 years has been a roller coaster in finding meds. I do much research before ordering from anybody! I have found some decent and not so decent places over these 8 years. However, at least for the last 8 years I have finally had some sort of life for the first time in my life because I don't depend on humiliating emergency rooms or Doctors for relief! I did use a place called LibSol Cheap Great but in1999 they were BUSTED) Then Pharma24! What a great place they were but, because some idiot took too many zanax(Trankimazin) and had to go to the hospital, he turned them in to save his a$$! Next day the Spanish Civil Guard raided them and put them out of biz! That was Sept 2004 and ever since it has gotten harder and harder to find decent pain meds! I even used the Biotran fellow for several years. Even though many people love him and swear by him,, he can, out of the blue, be a real jerk for absolutely no reason! I know the "Soup Nazi" joke is old but it does fit him to a "T"! (Please don't flame me for my opinion) Believe me, if they(Perdur) do at some point really turn bad, the word would spread like the plague and they would be history in no time! Please, reconsider your desire to contact Interpol about Perdur! Please think about those of us who would suffer greatly to lose them as a source!!
Thanks for listening and I hope you have good luck in the future! And thanks JP1 for the info!!


The WEB

EDUARDO HENDRICUS HUBERTUS PUIJK, worked for this place since they were spainmeds, and then after they went out of business twice, he resurfaced with perdur. He says he was forced out of the business. But now I would say it's still a long shot to figure out who works there and who dose not.

Doesn't anyone have a memory, This all started when biotran was slow to almost a full stop around two years ago.

Someone, a biotran customer, found them( a secert source at the time) and posted there info, the company said we have gone from 35 e-mails a weekend to 350 then 400. I can tell this is a couple of guys and a girl. Thats it, they spend most of there time off.
They are not a pharmacy. They are dealers. Yes I used them and each time prayed I would not get ripped off. I did get taken once and thats it. when they get too many customers they go out of business and lay low for a while. This is perfect timing for this to happen again IMO. I keep notes on each and every order I have made in three years. I don't have any intrest in this company or what happens to them or a competitor. Just the memory and notes on where they have been. I woulden't touch them again. Then again everyone must make there own choices. Good luck to those that stay, as I know being taken for money is a personal experience that all view differently.

Hey,

Your welcome WebFokker. I just want to at least return the favor for all of you whom I've lurked the past 4 years. I was thinking for a bit there that only myself and Testerone got scammed, but I see your buddy did too. I wonder how much money this guy Eduardo got from all of us. I can post, sadly, that he took me for $143.55 (Including WU fee)

I just hope by all of this that we at least saved one person from getting the shaft from Eduardo.

Strawberry is my new "Pharmers Almanac"
When I first came to look for another source besides Wayne, because I couldn't get on the Perd list, I found this thread. I perused it and read Strawberry's post about being taken, but then so many positive ones after that. Most likely I fell victim to Grym's banter as well as other posts of "Yes, they are delivering" So It must have been my dumb luck to have been intercepted by Eduardo. I DID use a hotmail account to contact them. But im not sure how that was hijacked and hushmail cannot be? If anyone knows, I'd love to hear it...learn somthing new everyday, eh?

But the weird thing is he "Forwarded the message" that I sent to Perdur1@hush to the Codac@hush, which says to me that he either had the password or ...er...I dont frickin know how.

Im glad though that they (Perdur) we're kind enough to offer to ship me my order anyway. If they deliver, then I'd say that's pretty frickin honorable of them! I'd go so far as to say that I would order again from them definately. But then again, I love roulette!

JP

In my emails to them I recommended that they take some of the blame for the interception of there emails and make it right with the people who got scammed. I directed them to this thread and mentioned that their reputation was being trashed and it would be a wise business decision to make it right with the customers that got scammed purely for 'good will' sake. Anyone that has taken accounting classes realizes that in any business, even if they are just dealers, good will has monetary value. I am not a Shill for anyone and some of my motives are self centered as this place is my only source of the medication that works for me and doesn't turn me into a vegetable.

I think it shows incredible insight for these guys to make good on at least some of the orders they never even really received - Don't you?

Are they perfect - nobody is and Strawberry has attested to that.
Are they a pharmacy - differently not.
Do they provide a service that many of us count on - differently yes.
Are they scammers - not at this time but any so called legit source can degenerate at any time into scammers.
Will I use them again - you can bet your buttocks!

Don't cause trouble for these guys - you are hurting many people.
The first sign that they do degenerate into scammers I will be among the crowd posting my results - and believe me I hate to be scammed as much or more than anyone on this board! And you can count on many [censored] words in my emails if this happens.

BTW: Involving LE in a transaction that you are personally involved in that is illegal in your respective country doesn't mean that you will not face the music yourself.
Wake up and consider the consequences of your actions people.

Believe me when I have been scammed I considered various ways of getting even with the SOB's that did it but in the end this board is our most powerful tool for payback if a source screws us.