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#189256 - 06/22/05 09:49 PM oxy in Canada?
shootingstar Offline
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Has anyone managed to find any docs that will prescribe oxy in Canada and bring it back successfully? I am really running out of options and money trying one pain doc after the other and so on. Any info would be great. Thanks.
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#189257 - 06/22/05 11:43 PM Re: oxy in Canada?
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Depends on what part of canada. To get oxy out of canada you need to go to a private practice M.D. Most of those guys are booked a month in advance. In the event you really have documented pain issues call get appoint with neurologist Tell them your a american who will pay cash for office call. Tell them its cheaper to see neurolgists in your country than U.S. I honestly don't think you will have a problem. A pharmacists who was hitting up on me last time in windsor told me she fills alot of Rxs for percodan. But she said don't try walk in clinic for that. Go with private practice specialist.

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#832695 - 01/21/09 12:21 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Repteur]
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Good luck getting anything from a canadian doctor.. i hate how the prescribing system works here. I told my doc tons of times that i have anxiety. which i do. and he told me im depressed LOL which im totally not. i just have anxiety brought on by work stress. SO i got. in order. remeron, paxil, and effexor. all of which i threw out the scripts. went to a walk in clinic. made up some bullshit. got ativan 1mg and finally i was able to control it. but trust me you almost always have to lie to get whats necessary. I always wanted to tell my doc that if he had huge anxiety im sure he wouldnt be looking for SSRI's lol. its SOOO true.. also the big problem we have here with opioids. I had a circumcision done at 23. AWAKE. after i literally passed out during the procedure. i was given iv morphine. I regained consciousness and after i left the doctor prescribed tylenol 3. I was almost crying for the whole week it was the worst time of my life. its ridiculous. And its not like im a crack head. i dont EVER abuse drugs. or take more then im supposed to. I've never used illegal drugs or anything like that so i dont have a red flag on my medical file. its just how scared doctors here are.

You HONESTLY have a better (WAY BETTER) chance in the states. to go to a private doctor (That doesn't accept insurance) and just telling him the problem and asking for a referral to a pain clinic. In my honest opinion


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#865838 - 03/26/09 05:58 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: jonnystel]
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I went to an ER room for a fractured ankle. The Doctor prescribed me Tylenol #3. I asked for something stronger and she reluctantly gave me a script for percocet. I do understand that prescription drug abuse is a serious problem and that if a person does not understand the addictive nature of pain meds they could become addicted. It is best that a person never has a taste of opiates if possible. I think that it is the responsibilty of Doctors to treat and educate their patients and give them the choice. It seems like Doctors would just rather avoid the situation all together. I would be very interested to know what they are taught in med school.

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#867898 - 03/31/09 02:53 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: jonnystel]
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hahaha, johnny pretty much summed up the canadian medical approach to controlled substances right there! p.p doctors think they are judges but free walk in clinics will hook you up. you could be suffering from a gunshot wound and the most your friendly familly doctor will give you is tylenol 3 and a stern talking-too! it hillarious.
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#868584 - 04/01/09 04:11 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: nikitaylor]
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Lol @ this post.
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#868596 - 04/01/09 04:37 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Cerastes]
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my family doctor out west reminded me of aticus from to kill a mockingbird.

canadians are so funny though, i wish we got more press. we have got to be the most ignored country... it makes me feel so deppressed, i had better drink a case of beer right away.
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#868659 - 04/01/09 06:40 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: nikitaylor]
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 Originally Posted By: nikitaylor
hahaha, johnny pretty much summed up the canadian medical approach to controlled substances right there! p.p doctors think they are judges but free walk in clinics will hook you up. you could be suffering from a gunshot wound and the most your friendly familly doctor will give you is tylenol 3 and a stern talking-too! it hillarious.



I bat 1000 getting hydro in canada. Thats stronger then Tylenol no3. Never had a dr say no. Just walkin and say my Tussionex Tablets.
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#892743 - 06/04/09 09:57 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Repteur]
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repteur, i find that hard to believe.

First, prescripion privileges vary from doctor to doctor and we are in this country going toward replacing our general practitioners with nurse practitioners ( the main reason being money of course). Only the specialists will remain.

I have a husband who is quite old now, has been through many major illnesses, but the specialist prefers to give him the steroid injections rather than the percocet. I am not sure if percocet is the same as hydro but it sure was helping him, he is now just an old man who has never taken drugs or alcohol all his life. But the last time he visited his pain clinic, it seemed that panic had set it again, and out came the forms that no more medicines would be prescribed (I figure maybe people sell these drugs, there has to be a reason why pain clinics have such a difficult time).

He is quite old now my husband, and it seems just ridiculous to be told by a physician that you might become addicted in your seventies. Like who cares, you deserve to live the rest of your life without pain but I fear that many of us will die in pain with no much medical compassion.

It is the great age of incompetence in many areas, (we see it everywhere because people don't stay long enough to learn anything), the great era of incompetence in medicine with young practitioners and nurse practitioners given very little leeway to help. If you go to a sleep clinic be careful, in Canada, they are really keen on that driver's license being taken away until the sleep apnea is resolved, but they won't tell you that when you get there.

I do agree with the admin on this board, however, ordering controlled substances on the internet is simply asking for trouble.

The other way is to go alternative, study it, and you might find some surprises. I am talking about soft medicines, not something dreadful like phenibut and ambien. You want something that will help your mind, not destroy it. It is after all your most precious asset.

I still think that good old medicines like valium which could relieve spasms should be given back to patients without all the nonsense that we can't control ourselves. Let's vote to take the alcohol off the shelves and replace the stuff with something more decent to help an aging population.

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#931433 - 09/18/09 01:28 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: leonne65]
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So far I have not been able to obtain oxy's in Canada. I was severely injured at work, but all the doc will prescribe is vic's. While the vics do help somewhat, they are nowhere near as good as Oxy. Also, do not try to obtain any narcotic pain relievers from a walk in clinic, everyone that I have been to has a strict no narcotic policy.

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#931900 - 09/19/09 03:33 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Jason905]
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They don't prescribe vic's in Canada as far as I knew. I thought the only hydrocodone you could get was in syrup.

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#961260 - 11/13/09 05:10 AM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: shootingstar]
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Almost impossible to find a doc.here in Canada who will prescribe oxy.

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#992509 - 01/15/10 10:17 AM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Ontario]
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Well, we have nobody to blame for this but those morons who poke holes in thier arms for oxy. I ruined my right arm. (atleast it still works.....kinda) I have had 3 forearm surgeries,2 elbow surgeries and and 4 shoulder surgeries. My right arm is covered in scars from the incisions. Anyways, I have some metal here and there, a couple pins, and my lunate and scaphoid are false, some kind of titanium/plastic type thingy. I got to see them before they put them in. The Bone specialist showed me what he was going to do each time I had a surgery.

Anyways, surgeon puts me on Dilaudid whie in hospital, then sent home with 90X 5/325 Percocet. I was to go see him every week for the first month, then every month for 6 months. He was giving me far and above "standard of care" he realized I was in pain, and had been through the whole rocky road, after all, he was the one who performed all of the surgeries. Well I asked him what I am going to do when my six months is up, and I am still in tears in pain(being a grown man)? HE said well, thats why I have been taking good care of your pain, because I fear for you when your FD takes over. He said, "Here's whats going to happen, your going to return to your Family Doctor, he is going to be pissed off at me for you being physically dependant on Oxycodone, he is going to taper you off immediately. You can count on your next prescription to be 2.5/325 instead of the dose Im giving you now.(I was upped to the 7.5/500??? or 10/500???? by this time) You are then going to still be in pain, he will prescribe what he feels you need, as you are in his care, and what I do, nor my opinion means nothing to him." I said to myself, uh-oh!

Well, this is exactly what happened. Except once I reached the 2.5/325, I laid the line down. I told my doctor, "I am in pain, I want to die, I am in so much pain, I don't feel I am being treated right, you are breking your oath" He said in some form or another that he will not prescribe oxycontin in any shape or form as a long term treatment. I said "fine, I want a new doctor, I don't know how you as a human can stand as stern as you are, and see me in this condition and feel nothing of sympathy." He told me good luck finding one. I said "anyone is better then you" and I went to a city. I found an older doctor, went in for the first visit, this took almost three weeks because there was a "hold up" on my origional doctors end on getting my medical records to him.


I was upfront and assertive amd honest in my first visit. I told him my current doctor would not give me acces to pain control, so I am looking for another, you cannot prescribe me anything right now because I do hold a prescription for 2.5/325 Percocet. He said well, lets get you off that pissedoff I shaked as I heard those words as I thought to myself, this really is going to be hard, I am screwed. Then he said, Im putting you on Hydromorph Contin 12mg twice a day, and Im going to give you for now, two 2mg dilaudid tablets for in between, until we get the time-released drug at a stable dosage. cry100 bowing I was so happy to hear those words that I wil admit again, I cried I was so happy. He told me to go home and fetch my percocet prescription bottle, and come right back. I did as I was told, and he took my meds, and handed me a Rx for the new treatment. He said " Im going to take care of you if you take care of me." I asked, how do I take care of you, he said "by using your meds properly, and keep that honesty going". Off I went to fill my Rx for Hydromorph's and dilaudid's. The only stipulation we had was, that no e.r visits for pain meds, and he was not dishing out a bunch of dilaudid tablets every month, it was just until we could get the Hydromorph Contin dose right. For two years I have been on the same dose of 30mg Hydromorph Contin every 12 hours, and 30 Dilaudid 8mg tablets per month. doctorlove

This doctor refused to put me on any Oxycodone drug, but after some researching I quickly learnt that hydromorphone was even stronger and more desirable to the morons I mentioned at the beginning. I call them all the same....morons. I to this day can't understand why he would use a stronger drug with hardly no hesitance, but just a flat no! to any drug that contains Oxycodone. My docotor told me Oxycodone has a ceiling dose, tolerance doesn't, but most of the mechanism's of the drug, does have a mg limit with oxycodone. So an abuser could take a ridiculous amount of Oxycodone, so much that they wouldn't get high, but it would kill them from the side-effects. He said hydromorphone is not like this, there is no ceiling dose, its safer for you. <- thats what my doc said. Current research shows much controvery over his theories.

All I can say is, there are good ones out there, I was lucky and found one on my first try. Alot of difficulty switching but worth it. I have since had 2 surgeries, and no longer require potent opioids like such. DHC and Codeine suits me fine now.
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#998519 - 01/31/10 06:46 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Chemixrx]
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Originally Posted By: Chemixrx
They don't prescribe vic's in Canada as far as I knew. I thought the only hydrocodone you could get was in syrup.


Naw, it is possible. just difficult. I my experience the docs seems to skip that an go straight for the 5x325 percs. Either that or just codeine.

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#998521 - 01/31/10 06:56 PM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: Ontario]
LeperLord Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ontario
Almost impossible to find a doc.here in Canada who will prescribe oxy.


It is hard. I was prescribed some for a short period (went from 20's to 80's and back, then off), about half a year. Some people mentioned my doc was nuts for that cause apparently that's pretty quick (for goin up to 80's), but i haven't had any prescribed since then.

I know my buddy's dad was prescribed 300 80's a month for a broken neck (or maybe back). He's now on the same amount of 40's.

But like I said, it is hard. These are only the exceptions.

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#1010116 - 03/01/10 02:11 AM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: LeperLord]
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I had two friends that would always go to a private practice first, then get a referal to a clinic. they were in VC

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#1010864 - 03/02/10 10:50 AM Re: oxy in Canada? [Re: LeperLord]
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Canada Analgesics (Prescription Only.....and controlled substances in many countries)
Hycodan (hydrocodone Tartrate)
Also, Hydrocodone Tartrate as a "multi-ingredient" as:
Dalmacol, Dimetime Expectorant DC, Hycomine, Novahistex DH,
Novahistine DH, ratio-Calmdone, ratio-Coristex-DH, Tussinex,
Vasofrinic DH.
Dilaudid and Hydromorph (Hydromorphone Hydrochloride)
Metadole (Methodone)
Kadian, M-Eslon, MOS, MS Contin, MSIR, (Morphine Tartrate)
Oxy-IR, OxyContin, Supeudol (Oxycodone)
Endocet, Endodan,Percocet, ratio-Oxycocet, rati-Oxycodan (all multi-ingredients)
Talwin (Pentazocine)
Darvon-N (Dextropropoxphene)
Codeine Contin (Codeine)
Demerol (Pethidine Hydroclhloride)

Source: Martindale The Complete drug Reference. 36th edition.(2009) published by Pharmaceutical Press (the publishing organization of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain) a/k/a RPS Publishing (London, England) ISBN: 978-0-85369-840-1 ISSN 0263-5364 (Over 6,000 pages of ethical pharmaceuticals in forty countries: two volume set of books
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