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#96313 - 05/13/04 10:15 AM Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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You can see some samples of actual letters received by our members if you click on the links:

Recent Sample

Older Sample


The following is a the text of aletter received by a person that ordered Valium from a foreign pharmacy"
Quote:

"US Customs Service
22685 Holiday Park Drive, Suite 15
Sterling, VA 20166


Dear Mr. XXXXXX:

This is your official notification that on April 28, 2003, Inspectors of the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection seized 14.7 grams of Alprazolam found in a parcel addressed to you at the Dulles International Mail Facitlity. The items have an estimated appraised value of $6.00. The substances were being imported in violation of Title 19, United States Code (USC), section 1497 "Penalties for Failure to Decalre," Title 21 USC, section 953, "Importation of Controlled Substances," Title 19 USC, section 1595(a) "Merchandise Introduced Contrary to Law," 18 United States Code, section 545 "Smuggling" and Title 21, Code of Federal Regulations, part 1312, "Importation and Exportation of Controlled Substances."

This notice also serves as an official notification that administrative forfeiture proceedings shall be instituted against the seized merchandise. Please be advised that the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection will advertise the substances by posting a "Notice of seizure and Intent to Forfeit" at the Port of Washingtond, D.C. The first noticed will be published on or about Monday, June 02, 2003.

Under provisions of Title 19, USC, section 1618, you have the right to petition for administrative relief from forfeiture of the seized drugs. Your petition must include a copy of the approved DEA form 236 you filed prior to importation of your shipment. Please be aware that the submussion of a prescription will not grant release of these drugs. You must file your petition with this office within 30 days from the date of this letter, or your merchandise will be forfeited to the U.S. Government and destroyed in accordance with the law. If you fail to respond to this notice within the 30-day period, the controlled substances will be forfeited to the United States Government and the case will be considered close.

The enclosed notice of Seizure and Information for Clamaints explains your options for remission of the forfeiture. Ifyou choose to petition for relief from forfeiture, you must complete and submit the enclosed Election of Proceedings form along with your petition. This submission will defer the judicial or administrativve proceedings until completion of the administrative process.

To advoid any future violations, your doctor or pharmacist must comply with the drug Enforcemnt Administration requirement. All controlled substances imported should be registered abd the appropriaete import declaration, DEA form 236, is filed with DE not less than 15 days before importation. Ordinary citizens are not permitted to import scheduled drugs. However, if you think you may be eligibke please request and file all applications with the DEA, International drug unit, Washington, D.C. 20537.

All petitions should be filed in duplicate and forwared to Bureau of Customs and Border Protection, Port Case Numbers, Fines, Penalties, and Fofeitures Office, P.O. Box 17423, Washington, D.C. 20041. If you have any questions contact xxx at (703) 318 - 5900 ext. xxx

Sincerly,
Name Removed
Fines, Penalties, and Forfeitures Officer
Port of Washington, D.C"






The ones below are the samples.


Quote:

EXHIBIT 9-3

Model Letter for Use in General Mail Importations

(LETTERHEAD)

A mail shipment of an article from a foreign country addressed to you is being detained at the U.S. Post Office. All products of this kind must meet the requirements of the Federal Food, drug, and Cosmetic Act or other laws enforced by the Food and drug Administration. These laws are designed to protect you from, among other things, unsafe or misrepresented foods, drugs, biologics, cosmetics, devices, and other articles. The product addressed to you does not appear to comply with the law.

Please read the enclosed Notice of Detention and Hearing carefully since it explains why FDA believes that the product sent to you is in violation. The Notice does not in any manner accuse you of violating any law.

If you have good reason to believe that the product does comply with the law and wish to discuss it with us, you may personally come to this office, telephone, or write to us within the time limit shown on the Notice.

If you do not wish to claim this shipment, you may disregard the Notice and the shipment will be returned to the sender without cost to you. The shipment will be returned to the sender automatically if we do not hear from you within the time limit shown on the Notice.

Sincerely yours,

Enclosure:






Quote:

EXHIBIT 9-4

Model Letter for Use in Detentions of Drugs and Devices

(LETTERHEAD)

A mail shipment addressed to you of a drug (device) from a foreign country is being detained at the U.S. Post Office. All products of this kind must meet the requirements of the Federal Food, drug and Cosmetic Act which is designed to protect you from products that have not been shown to be safe and effective and that are not labeled in a truthful, accurate and non-misleading manner.

Please read the enclosed Notice of Detention and Hearing carefully, since it explains why the product addressed to you appears to violate U.S. law. The Notice does not accuse you in any manner of violating any law.

If the drug is not approved for distribution in the United States, FDA may consider releasing the product to you for your own personal use if you provide a statement containing:

adequate documentation that the product is for your own use and for treatment of a serious condition, and include the name and address of the doctor licensed to practice in the United States who is responsible for your treatment with this product; or
adequate documentation that the product is for the continuation of treatment of a serious condition begun in a foreign country.
Send your statement to this office and we will promptly review your submission and consider release of the product.

If you have good reason to believe that the product does comply with the law and you wish to discuss it with us, you may come in person to this office, telephone, or write to us within the time limit shown on the Notice.

If you do not wish to claim this shipment, you may disregard the Notice and the shipment will be returned to the sender without cost to you. The shipment will be returned to the sender automatically if we do not hear from you within the time limit shown on the Notice.

Sincerely yours,

Enclosure:






Edited by DrugBuyers (06/02/04 12:23 PM)
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#96314 - 05/13/04 01:56 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Customs is now part of the Department of Homeland Security. Therefore, the first letter below is now printed on Dept. Homeland Security Stationery and has three more pages, parts of which one can return depending if the recipient wants to challenge the forfeiture in court or have the property foreited immediately.

It could be inferred that the other letters are also on Homeland Security Stationery or from the FDA in certain circumstances.

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#96315 - 05/13/04 07:05 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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I had to go through customs recently and the form I had to fill did no mention "Department of Homeland Security"

Would be nice to be able to display the new letters.

To all member with a letter from customs. We would love to have a copy. Please blackout your personal information, scan it, and post it via the "ad attachment"... or send it to us by email:
administrator@drugbuyers.com

You can also scan the letter and upload it, (like the image below), to a reply in this thread. Free VIP memberships, or renewals, will be awarded to the members that post the first 5 :-)


Thank you


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#96316 - 05/19/04 08:57 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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What should you do if you receive a letter from Customs?

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#96317 - 05/21/04 11:51 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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"What should you do if you receive a letter from Customs"
Trash it, its just a "love letter" from them telling you they seized you're meds. If its controlled than its illegal to import in and I would assume challenging the seizure would result in admitting guilt.
Now if it was allergy meds or something like that that got seized then I guess you could challenge it.
Most likely you get a second letter month later if you don't challenge it saying that the meds/articles have been forfeited.

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#96318 - 06/02/04 12:22 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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We just receive one of the most recent letters.
The first page will be included in this post. to see all the pages, 6 pages, click here


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#96319 - 09/25/04 07:36 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Here is an Australian one


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#96320 - 09/26/04 05:28 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Quote:

What should you do if you receive a letter from Customs?




There are anectdotal instances chronicled on this board regarding members who received numerous "love letters", and were subsequently visited/arrested by the DEA. I don't believe that the veracity of these postings were ever verified.
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#96321 - 11/18/04 02:17 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Do they keep a black list of addresses once you get a love letter?
My friend recently got his first one, and he doesnt want any feds knocking on his door, yet he cant afford a doctors visit and prescription prices. How many letters are considered dangerous? would getting a P.O. box help him?
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#96322 - 12/03/04 08:38 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Another letter:


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#96323 - 06/04/05 12:01 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Admin! That first letter you posted had me laughing for a full minute! There were only like 6 or 8 typos in it. Not sure how real that one was.

What I have received is entirely different, But I think They are printed in Cebu City!

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#96324 - 06/04/05 12:05 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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This link didn't work for me in your post Admin


"We just receive one of the most recent letters.
The first page will be included in this post. to see all the pages, 6 pages, click here"

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#96325 - 02/07/07 06:56 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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does that go for all meds, My husband order's non-scheduled meds for seizers.

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#96326 - 02/09/07 01:15 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Here is a ll I received earlier this week.


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#96327 - 02/09/07 02:03 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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HI Herold, can you tell us what part of the world that the shipment was comming from?

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#96328 - 02/09/07 03:40 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Quote:

What I have received is entirely different, But I think They are printed in Cebu City!




Nice one - I wondered about that also, but after the 2nd LL I got, I received a package from Cebu City that had NOT been tampered with.

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#96329 - 02/15/07 11:03 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Harold's is exactly what mine looked like in Oct of 2006. Came from EU thru POE Chicago.


Edited by pnutgallery (02/15/07 11:05 AM)
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#96330 - 02/17/07 05:44 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Sorry I haven't looked back at this topic in a while. The return address on that ll is in NY. Meds were coming from EU.

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#96332 - 03/12/07 10:15 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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I just received a LL, in fact, it's sitting right beside me as I type this. Interestingly, I've received one of the packages, but the other (containing the exact same thing) was confiscated. It makes me wonder, just HOW do they know if it's a controlled substance in the envelope rather than a letter from Uncle JoeBob?


Edited by Administrator (04/20/07 09:00 AM)

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#96333 - 04/20/07 08:53 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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The attachment shows a letter you may receive if your try to import prescription drugs via mail into Canada

You can see a recent US Confiscation Letter at:
www.drugbuyers.com/loveletter

Please attach your letter, if different from those already posted, to a post or email / Fax them to us

Please take those letters seriously. Do not assume you will be so lucky next time. The letters are a personal warning.

The letter had your name and address on it. You should not ignore it. You received the letter, you can receive a visit from LE too.

The letter clearly says you can not import any controlled substances or prescription drugs containing controlled substances... and clearly warns you that if you do it again you may be prosecuted...



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#96334 - 05/01/07 04:13 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters
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Quote:

I just received a LL, in fact, it's sitting right beside me as I type this. Interestingly, I've received one of the packages, but the other (containing the exact same thing) was confiscated. It makes me wonder, just HOW do they know if it's a controlled substance in the envelope rather than a letter from Uncle JoeBob?




You are proof that they don't know ... since one did and one didn't. It must be random.

I'm interested in the LL, from the other poster, that came from Seattle instead of San Fran. So San Fran isn't the only westcoast customs? Has anyone else received from any iop where it came through Seattle? Would love to know Thanks for any info.
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#537358 - 08/05/07 09:50 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: suzieo]
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I have back when pakistan was shipping regularly. They'd rutinely go through customs inSeattle no problemo even in those lovely sewn bag boxes that screamed drug shipment

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#546674 - 08/21/07 04:43 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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Not a letter I want to see...........

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#565837 - 09/20/07 01:31 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: blackhawk]
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the odds seem to be increasing of a seizure............is this true.......

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#604778 - 11/26/07 03:08 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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What is the approximate percentage of benzos coming from other countries that get seized by customer?? Anyone have an idea. Also is there a certain IOP that has more seized than others??

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#619549 - 12/27/07 12:06 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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This is a sample from Australia

Got it here:
http://www.epharmacywatch.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=619374#Post619374
Thank you for sharing...



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Description: Australian loveletter

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Description: Australian customs seizure notification


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#684011 - 04/15/08 10:00 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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Once upon a time or two or three. I also received some of those love letters. Each time, they said the same exact thing. If I can find my way back to this thread, find the letters, I'll scan or upload them for you folks.

I can tell you, the port of entry also screamed CHECK ME..lol. Florida, with the packages coming from Peru. Yikes! Heading to my home in the midwest, which is about a 10 hr. drive to the Mexican border. Something we used to do once or twice a yr. Should have stuck with that plan instead of being lazy. In the end, it actually cost me more and I ended up with NOTHING.


I can now look back and laugh, and write it off as "it seemed like a good idea at the time" as well as young and dumb, but lucky!
(BTW...it's been yrs. since this happened and that pharmacy STILL calls me for refills, I tell them I no longer take the medication, never call me again but guess they don't understand English very well in Peru, unless it's the word Diazepam or Valium )

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#737456 - 07/29/08 02:44 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Anonymous]
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Haha eek! That sounds like a disaster. Did they come knocking on your door? Well in any case, these love letters look terrible. I'd rather just search for a compassionate doctor in the U.S. than to try to order online now. Was thinking about ordering online from overseas, but it looks like it's not worth it for the risks

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#745303 - 08/11/08 03:10 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: GriffinReed]
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I sort of WANT to have a package confiscated just so I can get one of these:


I laughed pretty hard about risky business.

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#749271 - 08/18/08 06:33 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: cafebrulot]
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Well, I don't know why I, a suburban MD stay at home mom who cares for her own mom and kids and animals, rates an actual honest-to-gosh visit from two lovely and polite DEA agents today. I hemmed and hawed, but they apparently knew some stuff already, made it clear that they weren't after me - is that true, do you think? - and only wanted to go after the big bad guys who coat their pills with paint and use antifreeze as an ingredient. With quite straight faces, I must admit.

But oh sh**, they scared me to death!Hubby less than a year from a military retirement, and the crazy thing is, I don't even take the darn pills. Mom has severe spinal stenosis, is bed-bound and in contant pain from degenerative arthritis. To watch her cry from pain and know that most touch hurts her terribly is enough to make me go to my room and cry. And I'm on enough anti-depressant and sleep meds that I need nothing ordered for myself, thanks to the stress all this has brought on.

But on to practical matters. Will this tag team be back to search my home, look through my bank statements - I showed them one, don't ask me why, I too am asking why in the world? . . . Can they grill my neighbors about us? Take away my Social Security from my neurological disability? I just don't know, which I consider barbaric in itself. Why teach us algebra and calculus when we need to learn to conduct ourselves with dignity during drug raids? Okay, that's an exaggeration, but still . . . If some kind soul out there has any ideas, please let me know, I'm just totally at a loss here. I'm wandering in the wilderness with barely a candle to light the way and oh, brother, am I scared.

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#749318 - 08/18/08 07:59 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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Wow, I am so sorry you went throughthis. If they come back, let them know that you will have to have legal representation before you say anything else. They will keep coming knowing that you are scared and will tell them anything they want to know. I would do exactly what you are doing for your mom. It really burns my butt to see them come after poor ol people who are in great deals of pain. Isn't this why these types of medications were manufactured? Good luck Kap and don't let them intimidate you again.
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#749325 - 08/18/08 08:26 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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sorry to hear about that. It seems as if it was an IOP order this would not happen. So I am going to guess it is from a source that goes over to mexico and bring the pills back. If you don't have an attorney I would talk to one or if they come back, tell them you are in the process of talking with a lawyer. That will make them angry, so I would mention that you have not deceided that you won't cooperate, but you just have to talk to someone first. They can do a lot of things, but make them go to the trouble of getting a warrent, and they may just pick on soeone else who is easier to intimidate. Anything you show them get them one step farther into not needing a warrent.

If you open your door they can claim they saw some pills in the open, thus they would not even need a search warrent. They will make you feel like this deal ends in two minutes if you don't cooperate, and don't forget it is not against the law for them to lie to you during an investigation.

Talk to an attorney, and have him talk to these guys, maybe you can get it taken care of with a one hour bill from an attorney. chances are they are after someone else, but you have a lot to lose if you don't use your rights. (IMO)

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#749739 - 08/19/08 02:40 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Strawberry]
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Strawberry,
It seems like everybody who uses an IOP is getting their packages seized and that it is less likely when shipped from within the US. It also sounds like if it is shipped from the US that your local neightborhood LE or DEA might be more likely to visit you. Am I understanding correctly. Thanks.

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#749778 - 08/19/08 04:02 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Hangingon]
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LL are from overseas shipments. A knock at the door is probably from someone sending narcotics through the mail that the DEA has been watching. If you had an LL, that means you do not have the drugs. If you have a knock on the door, I would thing the Law is following the medication.

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#749843 - 08/19/08 06:02 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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dtkap - are you on a military base?

I am assuming that your mother is living with you and your husband - is your mother under your husband as a dependent? If not, he should really try to get her under him and get medical care for her. A military medical facility in MD(you can probably figure which one)took great care of me for my pain management when I was a dependent. Sure it took several visits, test, x-rays, Mri's , CAT' scans, etc. but they did me right. I am just wondering if she could get some adequate pain relief that way. She should not have to suffer. Burns me up that people have to go through this then alphabets show up, but i hope your mom isn't getting tainted meds or anything from some source she has had to go to relieve her suffering.



Don't worry, you panicked - you showed them you were being straight up and open. It's for your mom and I am assuming you told them that and they asked, right? I highly doubt you or hubby or even mom are in any trouble. Please be careful though, you have free legal consul available to you on your base or post as a military wife, so I'd go use it.

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#757760 - 09/01/08 12:43 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: SallyCShells]
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hi. i've read all the posts in this thread, and i was wondering what happens when you get a LL? like does anything happen to you? could you get in trouble at all? just wondering, because i've purchased meds from iops before with no problems, but then i've read this thread and it made me scared a bit.

thanks.
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#757941 - 09/01/08 07:28 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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 Originally Posted By: dtkap
Well, I don't know why I, a suburban MD stay at home mom who cares for her own mom and kids and animals, rates an actual honest-to-gosh visit from two lovely and polite DEA agents today. I hemmed and hawed, but they apparently knew some stuff already, made it clear that they weren't after me - is that true, do you think? - and only wanted to go after the big bad guys who coat their pills with paint and use antifreeze as an ingredient. With quite straight faces, I must admit.

But oh sh**, they scared me to death!Hubby less than a year from a military retirement, and the crazy thing is, I don't even take the darn pills. Mom has severe spinal stenosis, is bed-bound and in contant pain from degenerative arthritis. To watch her cry from pain and know that most touch hurts her terribly is enough to make me go to my room and cry. And I'm on enough anti-depressant and sleep meds that I need nothing ordered for myself, thanks to the stress all this has brought on.

But on to practical matters. Will this tag team be back to search my home, look through my bank statements - I showed them one, don't ask me why, I too am asking why in the world? . . . Can they grill my neighbors about us? Take away my Social Security from my neurological disability? I just don't know, which I consider barbaric in itself. Why teach us algebra and calculus when we need to learn to conduct ourselves with dignity during drug raids? Okay, that's an exaggeration, but still . . . If some kind soul out there has any ideas, please let me know, I'm just totally at a loss here. I'm wandering in the wilderness with barely a candle to light the way and oh, brother, am I scared.

I felt it necessary to reply to this one, because my brother was once in a somewhat similar situation. Feds got him in a drug related deal involving his boss that he hadn't wanted any part of. They were very freindly and told him they knew he was innocent, and got him to cooperate in bringing down his boss. They let him go.
A year later he was advised they had decided to pursue a conviction on him as well. The first trial was a hung jury. Again they let him go.(they used all the recordings etc from when he helped bring the other guy down against him in trial)
6 months later they told him they were going to try him again. I personally witnessed how unfair and dishonest the prosecution was.
To cut to the point, they are not your freind. Don't say anything to them without a lawyer, even though they will try to convince you that you don't have anything to worry about as long as you are cooperating with them. They are likely to turn this against you down the road, after they get whatever they want from you.
My younger brother is still in federal prison today as a testement to that fact. 'Conspiracy' charges.
They don't really care about guilt or innocence; a prosecuter's career is based on how many convictions they can rack up.
P.S.- there is no parole in the federal system.
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#758145 - 09/02/08 07:33 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: blackpulpit]
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and P.S.
as you asked, they can and are likely to grill your neighbors about you. Not so likely now, but later if they pursue a prosecution.
They will lie to your neighbors about you; saying you got caught in stuff that never even happened, in order to pursuade them to give a sworn affidavit.
This isn't something off a fictional horror movie. This is how the wheels of the justice system turn when you are up close and personal.
Hopefully these posts help you in drawing out your decision tree. Don't put it off. Talk to a lawyer. And do your homework to make sure he is a GOOD lawyer.
I would not underestimate how serious your situation is.
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#872472 - 04/08/09 09:46 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: blackpulpit]
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anyone ever hear back from this woman? I wonder what happened

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#910291 - 07/22/09 09:43 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: SevnDusty]
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fast express delivery is it more likely to be seized. i just paid 24.99$ for this service to uk. wats the chance of it getting seized
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#910346 - 07/22/09 02:07 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: derryboy]
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i just placed an order with visa pharmacy, i got it in 5 days. when you pay the 25.00 you get a tracking number and actually watch it go through customs

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#912233 - 07/28/09 02:05 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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Can a person be criminally charged for importing a controlled drug, or a drug that is banned in the US?
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#912287 - 07/28/09 03:33 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: bobbieevans]
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Originally Posted By: bobbieevans
Can a person be criminally charged for importing a controlled drug, or a drug that is banned in the US?


Yes, no question about it.

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#913571 - 08/01/09 02:18 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: martind]
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I would definitely listen to MartinD. If you want to put yourself at risk, well. that is up to you.

In addition, I would add, that what you get might not be what you hoped for. So: cost (high), risk with LE, AND the meds not being what you bargained for - all things to take into consideration.

Anyway, hope you are doing OK.

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#914685 - 08/04/09 03:23 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: martind]
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Originally Posted By: martind
Originally Posted By: bobbieevans
Can a person be criminally charged for importing a controlled drug, or a drug that is banned in the US?


Yes, no question about it.


Isn't it legal to get a 90 day supply like when people order from Canada? I know I have gotten and LL for a 90 day supply and I didn't fight it, because I didn't want to meet the DEA face to face.

Is it legal or illegal to order a 90 day supply from Canada? Is it legal to order a 90 day supply from anywhere?

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#914713 - 08/04/09 04:22 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Mr_carl_pain]
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The legalities involved with the personal prescription drug importation regulations are somewhat complicated involving unapproved foreign medications but there is no "90 day supply" exemption.
There is a "50 dosage unit" stipulation which has several detailed requirements including a valid prescription issued by a licensed physician who has examined the patient accompanying the drug, a legitimate prescription label with the patient's name and doctor's registration information and other specifics.
But realistically speaking, it is illegal for an individual to import prescription drugs into the US without an importation license. Regardless of scheduling or amount.

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#917226 - 08/12/09 03:32 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: martind]
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Thanks Martin for your always pertinent info.

People need to read this over and over. NO, IT IS NOT LEGAL! But, if you do it, you do it and take the risks. Both with LE and with what you'll get. If you get anything. I hate to say this, truly, but it is the reality. Don't go in with your eyes wide shut. 'K? Use your inborn wisdom (and we all have it) to direct you.

Thunder? Oh, I hope so. I love thunder and lightening. Maybe it's just the heat pump, lol.

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#917577 - 08/12/09 10:29 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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I have ordered meds from india about 3 times now and they have never been seized. But Now I'm a little scared. But I know it's random so I'll just take my chances. I order anti-depressants and pain meds from india because I do not have insurance and I have lower back pain frequently. (and it's not an opiate that I take) I do have a prescription for the anti-depressants but not the pain meds. Oh well a seizur notice doesn't sound like that big a deal. But thanks for letting us know the risks.

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#918453 - 08/15/09 11:55 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: hillary84]
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Hillary - yeah, you have evaluated the risks and deemed them acceptable.

What pain med do you get that is not an opiate (if you don't mind my asking)? And anti Ds - well how difficult would that be to get from a doc? Easy, I would think.

Anyway, hope my questions are not too intrusive.

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#919394 - 08/18/09 04:48 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: PNWRain]
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I have a prescription for and can get refills for the anti-D i take but at a regular pharmacy it's about $111 for a 30 day supply. I don't have insurance so I order them cheaper on line. and the pain med is tram.

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#919422 - 08/18/09 06:31 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: hillary84]
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why not ask your doctor for an rx for Tramadol as well. it would be much cheaper even without insurance getting it at local pharmacy

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