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#749318 - 08/18/08 07:59 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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Wow, I am so sorry you went throughthis. If they come back, let them know that you will have to have legal representation before you say anything else. They will keep coming knowing that you are scared and will tell them anything they want to know. I would do exactly what you are doing for your mom. It really burns my butt to see them come after poor ol people who are in great deals of pain. Isn't this why these types of medications were manufactured? Good luck Kap and don't let them intimidate you again.
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#749325 - 08/18/08 08:26 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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sorry to hear about that. It seems as if it was an IOP order this would not happen. So I am going to guess it is from a source that goes over to mexico and bring the pills back. If you don't have an attorney I would talk to one or if they come back, tell them you are in the process of talking with a lawyer. That will make them angry, so I would mention that you have not deceided that you won't cooperate, but you just have to talk to someone first. They can do a lot of things, but make them go to the trouble of getting a warrent, and they may just pick on soeone else who is easier to intimidate. Anything you show them get them one step farther into not needing a warrent.

If you open your door they can claim they saw some pills in the open, thus they would not even need a search warrent. They will make you feel like this deal ends in two minutes if you don't cooperate, and don't forget it is not against the law for them to lie to you during an investigation.

Talk to an attorney, and have him talk to these guys, maybe you can get it taken care of with a one hour bill from an attorney. chances are they are after someone else, but you have a lot to lose if you don't use your rights. (IMO)

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#749739 - 08/19/08 02:40 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Strawberry]
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Strawberry,
It seems like everybody who uses an IOP is getting their packages seized and that it is less likely when shipped from within the US. It also sounds like if it is shipped from the US that your local neightborhood LE or DEA might be more likely to visit you. Am I understanding correctly. Thanks.

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#749778 - 08/19/08 04:02 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Hangingon]
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LL are from overseas shipments. A knock at the door is probably from someone sending narcotics through the mail that the DEA has been watching. If you had an LL, that means you do not have the drugs. If you have a knock on the door, I would thing the Law is following the medication.

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#749843 - 08/19/08 06:02 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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dtkap - are you on a military base?

I am assuming that your mother is living with you and your husband - is your mother under your husband as a dependent? If not, he should really try to get her under him and get medical care for her. A military medical facility in MD(you can probably figure which one)took great care of me for my pain management when I was a dependent. Sure it took several visits, test, x-rays, Mri's , CAT' scans, etc. but they did me right. I am just wondering if she could get some adequate pain relief that way. She should not have to suffer. Burns me up that people have to go through this then alphabets show up, but i hope your mom isn't getting tainted meds or anything from some source she has had to go to relieve her suffering.



Don't worry, you panicked - you showed them you were being straight up and open. It's for your mom and I am assuming you told them that and they asked, right? I highly doubt you or hubby or even mom are in any trouble. Please be careful though, you have free legal consul available to you on your base or post as a military wife, so I'd go use it.

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#757760 - 09/01/08 12:43 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: SallyCShells]
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hi. i've read all the posts in this thread, and i was wondering what happens when you get a LL? like does anything happen to you? could you get in trouble at all? just wondering, because i've purchased meds from iops before with no problems, but then i've read this thread and it made me scared a bit.

thanks.
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#757941 - 09/01/08 07:28 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: dtkap]
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 Originally Posted By: dtkap
Well, I don't know why I, a suburban MD stay at home mom who cares for her own mom and kids and animals, rates an actual honest-to-gosh visit from two lovely and polite DEA agents today. I hemmed and hawed, but they apparently knew some stuff already, made it clear that they weren't after me - is that true, do you think? - and only wanted to go after the big bad guys who coat their pills with paint and use antifreeze as an ingredient. With quite straight faces, I must admit.

But oh sh**, they scared me to death!Hubby less than a year from a military retirement, and the crazy thing is, I don't even take the darn pills. Mom has severe spinal stenosis, is bed-bound and in contant pain from degenerative arthritis. To watch her cry from pain and know that most touch hurts her terribly is enough to make me go to my room and cry. And I'm on enough anti-depressant and sleep meds that I need nothing ordered for myself, thanks to the stress all this has brought on.

But on to practical matters. Will this tag team be back to search my home, look through my bank statements - I showed them one, don't ask me why, I too am asking why in the world? . . . Can they grill my neighbors about us? Take away my Social Security from my neurological disability? I just don't know, which I consider barbaric in itself. Why teach us algebra and calculus when we need to learn to conduct ourselves with dignity during drug raids? Okay, that's an exaggeration, but still . . . If some kind soul out there has any ideas, please let me know, I'm just totally at a loss here. I'm wandering in the wilderness with barely a candle to light the way and oh, brother, am I scared.

I felt it necessary to reply to this one, because my brother was once in a somewhat similar situation. Feds got him in a drug related deal involving his boss that he hadn't wanted any part of. They were very freindly and told him they knew he was innocent, and got him to cooperate in bringing down his boss. They let him go.
A year later he was advised they had decided to pursue a conviction on him as well. The first trial was a hung jury. Again they let him go.(they used all the recordings etc from when he helped bring the other guy down against him in trial)
6 months later they told him they were going to try him again. I personally witnessed how unfair and dishonest the prosecution was.
To cut to the point, they are not your freind. Don't say anything to them without a lawyer, even though they will try to convince you that you don't have anything to worry about as long as you are cooperating with them. They are likely to turn this against you down the road, after they get whatever they want from you.
My younger brother is still in federal prison today as a testement to that fact. 'Conspiracy' charges.
They don't really care about guilt or innocence; a prosecuter's career is based on how many convictions they can rack up.
P.S.- there is no parole in the federal system.
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#758145 - 09/02/08 07:33 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: blackpulpit]
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and P.S.
as you asked, they can and are likely to grill your neighbors about you. Not so likely now, but later if they pursue a prosecution.
They will lie to your neighbors about you; saying you got caught in stuff that never even happened, in order to pursuade them to give a sworn affidavit.
This isn't something off a fictional horror movie. This is how the wheels of the justice system turn when you are up close and personal.
Hopefully these posts help you in drawing out your decision tree. Don't put it off. Talk to a lawyer. And do your homework to make sure he is a GOOD lawyer.
I would not underestimate how serious your situation is.
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#872472 - 04/08/09 09:46 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: blackpulpit]
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anyone ever hear back from this woman? I wonder what happened

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#910291 - 07/22/09 09:43 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: SevnDusty]
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fast express delivery is it more likely to be seized. i just paid 24.99$ for this service to uk. wats the chance of it getting seized
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#910346 - 07/22/09 02:07 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: derryboy]
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i just placed an order with visa pharmacy, i got it in 5 days. when you pay the 25.00 you get a tracking number and actually watch it go through customs

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#912233 - 07/28/09 02:05 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
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Can a person be criminally charged for importing a controlled drug, or a drug that is banned in the US?
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#912287 - 07/28/09 03:33 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: bobbieevans]
martind Offline
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Originally Posted By: bobbieevans
Can a person be criminally charged for importing a controlled drug, or a drug that is banned in the US?


Yes, no question about it.

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#913571 - 08/01/09 02:18 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: martind]
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I would definitely listen to MartinD. If you want to put yourself at risk, well. that is up to you.

In addition, I would add, that what you get might not be what you hoped for. So: cost (high), risk with LE, AND the meds not being what you bargained for - all things to take into consideration.

Anyway, hope you are doing OK.

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#914685 - 08/04/09 03:23 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: martind]
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Originally Posted By: martind
Originally Posted By: bobbieevans
Can a person be criminally charged for importing a controlled drug, or a drug that is banned in the US?


Yes, no question about it.


Isn't it legal to get a 90 day supply like when people order from Canada? I know I have gotten and LL for a 90 day supply and I didn't fight it, because I didn't want to meet the DEA face to face.

Is it legal or illegal to order a 90 day supply from Canada? Is it legal to order a 90 day supply from anywhere?

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#914713 - 08/04/09 04:22 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Mr_carl_pain]
martind Offline
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The legalities involved with the personal prescription drug importation regulations are somewhat complicated involving unapproved foreign medications but there is no "90 day supply" exemption.
There is a "50 dosage unit" stipulation which has several detailed requirements including a valid prescription issued by a licensed physician who has examined the patient accompanying the drug, a legitimate prescription label with the patient's name and doctor's registration information and other specifics.
But realistically speaking, it is illegal for an individual to import prescription drugs into the US without an importation license. Regardless of scheduling or amount.

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#917226 - 08/12/09 03:32 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: martind]
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Thanks Martin for your always pertinent info.

People need to read this over and over. NO, IT IS NOT LEGAL! But, if you do it, you do it and take the risks. Both with LE and with what you'll get. If you get anything. I hate to say this, truly, but it is the reality. Don't go in with your eyes wide shut. 'K? Use your inborn wisdom (and we all have it) to direct you.

Thunder? Oh, I hope so. I love thunder and lightening. Maybe it's just the heat pump, lol.

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#917577 - 08/12/09 10:29 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: Administrator]
hillary84 Offline
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I have ordered meds from india about 3 times now and they have never been seized. But Now I'm a little scared. But I know it's random so I'll just take my chances. I order anti-depressants and pain meds from india because I do not have insurance and I have lower back pain frequently. (and it's not an opiate that I take) I do have a prescription for the anti-depressants but not the pain meds. Oh well a seizur notice doesn't sound like that big a deal. But thanks for letting us know the risks.

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#918453 - 08/15/09 11:55 AM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: hillary84]
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Hillary - yeah, you have evaluated the risks and deemed them acceptable.

What pain med do you get that is not an opiate (if you don't mind my asking)? And anti Ds - well how difficult would that be to get from a doc? Easy, I would think.

Anyway, hope my questions are not too intrusive.

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#919394 - 08/18/09 04:48 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: PNWRain]
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I have a prescription for and can get refills for the anti-D i take but at a regular pharmacy it's about $111 for a 30 day supply. I don't have insurance so I order them cheaper on line. and the pain med is tram.

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#919422 - 08/18/09 06:31 PM Re: Customs Sample Confiscation Letters [Re: hillary84]
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why not ask your doctor for an rx for Tramadol as well. it would be much cheaper even without insurance getting it at local pharmacy

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