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#956564 - 11/06/09 02:35 PM
Re: 2009 election returns in VA and NJ
[Re: EndGame]
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Veteran
Registered: 03/03/02
Posts: 526
Loc: NYC
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I think I have figured out the entire premise of any Obama argument between Rs and Ds.
R: Obama is a socialist and wants higher taxes on the rich and more services for the poor, as well as government intervention in every aspect of our lives.
D: Obama is simply using the post-Keynesian approach to preserving our capitalist economy by tweaking taxing and spending, as did George Bush and other presidents before, and taxes will not be higher for the majority of Americans.
R: Obama wants to take away your health insurance, your doctor, all medical freedoms you now enjoy, and set up Orwellian death panels to determine whether you are worth keeping alive or not.
D: That's just a scare tactic of the right. The distribution of medical care in this country is in such poor condition, something must be done. Obama is simply following in the footsteps of other major industrial democracies and providing the choice for poor people or those with pre-existing conditions to purchase. No one has suggested that private insurance be taken away from anyone, but if the public option is successful enough to be competitive, this may actually be a good thing in that it can set up a more affordable and efficient model for health care.
R: Obama has the worst economy and his ratings are plummeting.
D: The economy was already in bad shape when Obama became president, and he hasn't been in office long enough for anyone to judge his actions and their consequences
R: The Dems are not trying to work in a bipartisan way
D: The Reps are not trying to work in a bipartisan way
R: He is respected as a god or messiah, which is dangerous
D: He is an intelligent and charismatic leader, which reminds Democrats of people like Bobby Kennedy
R: He is going to sit down with dictators from countries that are part of the the axis of evil, without any preconditions, which is a threat to our national security and our international image.
D: He is an intellectual diplomat who wants to use a more complex and manipulative style of discussing pertinent issues with countries that pose a threat to us
R: Obama's polices are failing, and they will fail
D: Obama's policies are doing well, and they will do well.
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#956663 - 11/06/09 04:24 PM
Re: 2009 election returns in VA and NJ
[Re: riverboat]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 07/13/08
Posts: 220
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Now you are bringing God into this??? Wow! OK, let's leave God out of the Bush debacle and bring in Satan instead, LOL. Sorry you aren't funny....you may think you are, but the way that liberal mind works, I find no humor. Tell me what in your background made you think the way you do. Your bringing up, a boyfriend, or husband, or the kind of school you went to?? Seriously, I'm curious. We are both Americans, and love this country, but how did you get these liberal ideas??? Perhaps tigersmom was born in Kenya. Seriously, count me in as a "liberal" as well.
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