Good info need to remember this,

Your guy sounds like my guy, even with the threats, except I had 72 hours before they were coming. There is another post under international, open discussion.

Thank you Warvet! You validated my call exactly, except "Agent Wallace" never got to the fine that would save me from my potential years of prison! Unfortunately, the phone was disconected last night so my fun in calling in repeatedly and having them answer and then hang up is all over. I wanted to chat with them a bit more about my crime. I also called the FDA to report it.

Not to quibble, but wouldn't it have been the DEA investigating this sort of thing? Also funny how they have gone from trying to sell drugs via telemarketing with their fake US drug company to admitting that their fake company is, um, fake and from the DR?

nasty scam, kind of hesitant about making my first order now. i wouldnt want any flat mates to take the call.

I got a phone call one time and it was completely spanish speaking so I googled the phone number and all this information came up that it was a scam. So try googling the phone number.

The guy that called me a week ago last Thursday was PETER FRANCO too! I posted about it immediately and he said almost word for word what he did with you. I don't know how to copy the link for the posts on it, but I think if you look up my posts you will find it.
I am still alive and free...

The phone tracing I did and then googled showed the call coming from Balto MD.

I think someone needs to tell them that they need to western union you some cash or they are going to jail!!!!!

I like it!!!

Good idea maybe we can recoup some of our money!

It's happening to quite a few people on this board...see another post...similar story:

Members being called - SCAM!!!

Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago, had some fun with the guy, since then not a call.

I think thats what we have to do to make them stop calling is turn things around on them until they feel uncomfortable enough to end the phone call.

Yeah I gave him hell

I also get those calls about a have a refill ready to ship..

I still get calls like that and I used NWW so that's probably how they got my info.

For those wondering, when a Federal agent makes contact with you, they MUST identify themselves by name and office location (except while they are working undercover). Its rare that they will offer a badge number unless you request it.

Also, every state has different wire tap or conversation recording laws.

Even if he's a federal agent, they must abide by state laws.

In many states YOU must give him permission to record a call.

Although in some states a person can record your conversation without informing you. So look up those laws.

From Ripoffreport.com:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/pharmacies-o...-meds-eadj5.htm

same here. i thought they had stopped bugging me after our last pone conversation, but that only lasted about a week or so. oh well i no the #'s and dont answer them. seems to help. thought about answering and saying "DEA office.fraud division can i help you" but not sure thats a good idea.

Christopher Wallace? Ha Ha. Had you ever ordered Soma online from an NROP? No need to answer and incriminate yourself. I am going to start calling people as Kevin Watson or D
rt West Ward and saying the same thing! (I kid!) What a joke these people are! I hope they get busted for fraud and whatever other charges can be thrown at these low life scumbags preying on people in pain.

Whoops, was posting from my phone. Meant to type Dirk West Ward.

Hi All:

Well, the newest wrinkle in this series of calls came to me yesterday. Remember I was the one back a few pages in this string who, along with PW Rain and a few others got calls from a "DEA agent named Peter Franco".
Okay, yesterday I get a call from a "Jim" or "Tim", no accent, sounded American, and saying (after I pressured him for a name), that he was from "Health Providers" a pharmacy that serviced 100's (his words) of companies and that he knew I took such-and-such, he recited my actual condition, (he was completely accurate!) and told me he could send me a refil of a product and I could order now.
I told him no, that once a long time ago I had done this (I know!~!! STUPID STUPID, ) and that I wouldn't pay money for fakes again.
He said he would ship under the following conditions: (now get this, here come the part/scam I don't get), and of course it sounds too good to be true and I cannot find the hole in it and would like advice:
He says I could go to WU, pay the money he requires, get the MTCN (but NOT tell him the MTCN at this point)and then call him for the order which he would send out overnight to the adress I specified. I am to then take delivery, try the product and make sure the quality is fine with me. And then, and only then, I am to call him (the honor system?) and give him the WU MTCN number so he can go and pick up the money to get paid.
Okay, where is the hole in this I'm not seeing? Can I, say, if the product was chaulk, actually get my money back from WU if no one picks it up and they do not have the MTCN numbber?

I am temped to try this because it does seem I cannot loose or I am just the most foolish person around? Would very much be interested in anyone's sage advice - Rain? Some of the old hands here? Stevo?
Anyway, hope everyone's holidays were pain free and that this year has begun easily for all.
Many thanks!
Citrus

I don't think they need the MTCN number to pick up the money, They just need there Id or secrect question to pick it up. So after you say that you have gone to WU they will go pick it up and send you nothing and will have scammed you out of your money... Tell him you will WU the money after you have the product in hand and I garuntee he won't do it or tell him you went and sent it and he will go and try to pick it up and call you all pissed off when he goes and tries to get it!!

Send him $2....See if he sends you anything before he collects the 2 bucks.....If you really get the meds(I highly doubt you will!) Then you can WU the rest

Ah Ha!
Both suggestions are ones I never thought of! I like the $2 buck suggestion. I always thought without the MTCN there was no way any money could be given out. My bad.
I have some time tomorrow and will see if he is still on board. Another thing I forgot to say which was a real red flag to me. He caved instantly on the price when I said the price was way too high. He dropped the price by HALF! All my good sense antenas are up on this one.

I will report back tomorrow on anything I do so others can be aware. By the way, I have not been bothered by "Peter Franco" again other than one additional call he made two weeks after the first set of calls to my cell which I didn't answer and completely ignored. Also, this new fellow is coincedentally also locaed in Deleaware - the new hot spot for scamers.

But how did he get all my medical history particulars? Sounds like they had a "Chat" session in the past.
Thanks Stevo & Pod again for your collective great advice - always on the money!
Citrus

Some one of the LOW LIFE OCS owners sold peoples personal and private info. Its to bad we couldn't find out who it was and take legal action(if we could)

I just got a phone call (202 239 8744)from a man who gave a name (that I did not catch) and said he was from the DEA and that they have been investigating me for 2 years for buying narcotics on the telephone. "Do you know that is illegal," he asked. I just laughed and said, "I have never done that and I don't believe you. But thank you for calling," and I hung up laughing in his ear.

You see, I have never bought any drugs, narcotics or otherwise, "over the phone," as my bogus DEA guy said. But I have been getting constant phone calls from men who give a name and then the name of drug company who say a variation, "Oh Dr. Whatever has approved your refill." Or "We are having a sale on hydro." Well, guys, I have not ordered anything from anybody since the law changed back in April., so Dr. Whatever could not have approved a refil for a nonenxistent prescription.

What I do realize is that my phone number and name are out there on some lists. And it is scary to think where my name and phone number is posted. I used Chat, that now infamous company, so I can only assume that my name was sold. So now crooks who are pretending to peddle pain killers and crooks who try to intimidate people by posing as DEA agents all have my information.

I have nevered ordered once from these phone peddlers yet they continue to call. I wondered if the guy posing as a DEA agent was in retaliation for not buying? I wish I knew now to irradicate my name from these lists, but I suspect that is impossible. Unless anyone has some ideas?? Are people still getting these phone calls.

Yes washcook, they are still calling. At least they are still calling me and I have not ordered any medication from the telephone ever. I have had a couple of calls with the number 1-000-012-3456 and I do not answer, but they leave the message about a refill available.

I continue to get the "your doctor has approved a refill" phone calls, but this guy posing as a DEA agent who had "investigated me for 2 years" was trying to be intimidating. I hung up on him before he got to threats, but I have read the experiences of others here on DB and the scam appears to be that for a price, you can make the "investigation" go away. Since I knew I had never purchased anything over the phone, including the "narcotics" that the agent spoke of, I knew he was totally bogus. But he did have my name and phone number and who knows what else? That is the scary part. The fact that these bozos have our information. If he looked at what he had, he would know that I am squeaky clean (well, assuming Chatcp was legal) and I have purchased nothing since April when the law changed. Has anyone received these pretend-law-enforcement phone calls and listened to their pitch? His phone number was the same area code as where I live. Of course, people today keep their cells phone numbers and he could be anywhere. But I am now curious about what his pitch would be. But not curious enough to call him.

These folks are brilliant!

The "hole" is that this way they can slide through step 1 of the scheme more easily. It saves them headache of the hard sell to haggle with the victim in order to get you to actually part with monies based on an unsolicited phone call.

The scammers can go right on to the extortion scheme that has been noted by member Snippets and threaten you with "attempted conspiracy" charges if you don't pay the upcoming "fine" (by Western Union).

The scammers must have found that the fake "FDA/DEA/CIA/Interpol" agent call is much more lucrative for them.

The scammers also leave less of a trail this way thereby making it less likely that they themselves will be set up this way.
FDA Warns Public of Continued Extortion Scam by FDA Impersonators

To keep these scams going, they need to add new wrinkles periodically.

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