Schedule 4 times 90.

Why did you sign for the LL?
Was it IN the package?

They put the LL in the envelope provided by Basicmeds. I recognized the tape and flat appearance before I signed for it. I smiled, signed and wished the letter carrier a nice day.

Boatman,

Did you use the EMS shipping option or just the registered mail option?

I used the registered mail option and it was basically regular airmail with "registered mail" printed in block letters with a pen.

The carrier just dropped it in the mail box.

That must have been a bummer for you.
That's what I dread when I have to pick up at Post Office.
I just "assumed" the mailman would leave THAT in the box without the need for a signature.
(I've used registered and always had to sign.)

Haha someone just comes along and swipes your LL outta the box? Wouldn't that be funny.

It had a formal "Registered Mail" form glued to the front of the envelope. My address was on that form. It was the kind of letter that normal letter carriers don't deliver. It was delivered by the "Registered Letter" carrier. It stood out like a sore thumb. Anyone know if there is any way to get Basic to send it regular mail?

They resent an order for me with no hassle at all. Though maybe you would want to wait til next week so that the 21 days has passed. I think they just randomly check at customs and if you "win" the random check they take it. I got the impression on their chat that they just send the orders to one of a few pharmacies they use so I doubt they would change packaging or labeling.

Are all of you using EMS or just registered mail. EMS begs for seizure attention.

Has anyone ordered the V 10mg from BM recently? If you did, how would you rate the quality of it? (white X-V10).

I don;t know personally, but I wonuldn't worry about placing another orer with BM. I would definatley request a reship. Most likely, the worst that will happen is that you will get anoter LL. Unless your ordering thosands and thousands of narcodics.

Ordered to shipped: took only 1 day
Shipped to received: 7 days (5 working days)
Product: K-pin
Description: White X on both side
Brand: L******

Can someone confirm if they are the real deal please?

-B. Tartrate

After note: They deserve some credit on their speed of service, fast in terms of delivery. However, I dun think I am suitable to comment on the quality. I would let someone who are more experienced to answer this.

Try chewing up a dose on a empty stomach, see how you feel after 20 minutes

If this makes anyone feel better, I've had a package in customs approx 8-9 days (JFK) and it just cleared early this morning (Nov 4). This is the longest (that's been trackable) wait from customs I've experienced.

Just when you give up and place an order elsewhere, packages seem to pop up from no where

Diva24 hopefully when you get your gift it hasn't been opened by customs. I heard that someone received a package opened and taped back together and inside was a LL. I don't tell you this to scare you but just passing on some info.

I hope you receive in good condition.

I find this interesting… to be more precise, peculiar, very peculiar.

The following is used for the purposes of medical DETOX, thus doesn’t represent subjective effects nor even duration of action; nevertheless, the benzodiazepine equivalencies for the above mentioned drugs are: 10 diazepam (Valium) = 1mg lorazepam (Ativan) = 20mg temazepam (Restoril) = 10mg nitrazepam (Mogadon).

So J. found 10mg of Valium to be stronger than 5mg of lorazepam? I have to wonder from where he procured the lorazepam, because IME 5mg of lorazepam is in fact *about* 50mg of diazepam, albeit with the former having a slightly quicker onset and definitively shorter duration of action.

Both temazepam and nitrazepam are hypnotic benzodiazepines and rank in my top 3-5 “favorite” benzos, with the hypnotic midazolam being in there as well. I don’t know why one would get no effects from temazepam unless it was either bogus or one took a low dose- I’ve always bought blistered 30mg pills.

As for having to take 50mg of diazepam to get the same effects as a mere 2.5mg of nitrazepam… all I can say is, “wow.” I find the subjective effects of 10mg nitrazepam to be similar to taking 10-15mg of diazepam plus 10-15mg of the “non-benzodiazepine” hypnotic zolpidem (Ambien), were Ambien to last longer.

I’m glad to hear they’re sending the white, Nicholas Piramal Valium I’ve always received from BM & its affiliates. I’ve received said product in blisters from another IOP and the effects were identical. For that matter, I can’t tell the difference between the white Indian ones and the generics I’ve had filled in the US.

Please note, I’m not trying in anyway to critique someone else’s subjective experience with pharmaceuticals as each person has a unique biochemistry. I simply find it interesting… if I were able to take only 2.5mg of nitrazepam and get the effects of 50mg of diazepam, I would be VERY happy BTW, I have a rather high benzo tolerance that I’ve been working diligently to lower over the last 9 months; however, I can still discern between different benzos and if a benzos is bogus/weak/what have you. I’m scripted both clonazepam and lorazepam each month in the US. From IOPs, the nitrazepam and temazepam I’ve ordered has always been in original blisters.

I’ve heard this on these boards many, many times and I’m not disputing it; however, IME it’s based more on port of entry than EMS per se. For example, the West Coast seems to have a difficult time getting things through, period. I lived in Seattle for five years; this was back when I used to smoke, and I ordered cigarettes from Sweden and Russia. I had several LLs and even more no shows that I’m fairly confident were in fact confiscated- on one of my supplier’s websites, they posted the actual Times article where thousands of cartoons of their cigarettes had been confiscated!

My IOP experience has been on the East Coast… 4 years and no LLs, knock on wood. I order from a number of different places, but with BM and its affiliates specifically, I’ve placed and received 10 orders- they’ve arrived in a total of about 20 parcels, probably more, as they began sending stuff in multiple packages a while back, even when the order wasn’t that large. Point being, only 1 of my 10 orders has not been EMS, which means about 17+ EMS packages. For me, EMS reaches me in about 10 days from time of order (usually it’s them taking 3-4 business days to get it in the mail, they used to send my orders in 1 or 2 days tops) whereas the 3 non EMS packages I’ve received took a little over 3 weeks.

Not suggesting everyone use EMS, but it’s working for me thus far- again, knock on wood
BTW, SE US to be more exact.

Thanks for the info. I've received my share of LL's in the past, but they have always been in a crisp white envelope!

If customs did confiscate my package, would they bother updating the tracking information to show that it cleared customs? I guess I'll know soon. I usually receive the next day if cleared from customs early in the previous day (using EMS).

I agree with Uninsured.. I haven't noticed customs being partial to EMS vs Regist. vs Regular mail. I

This is J talking here.
I got the lorezepam from a friend who worked at the dentist. He had a whole lot of them, like a backpack full of them. Apparently he took them off the dentist office. They were yellow tiny tablets,football shape if I remember correctly. I can't remember the dosage. He gave me 4 and I gave 2 to my mate cause he really wants em. On a random bored night with nothing better to do, I decided to give the lorezepam a try after reading them on the net. Took 1, not much happen, then half an hour later I decided to head to the local liquor store for a beer. 30 mins later I took another one and drank some beer. I seriously did not notice much effects of it, it might had made my a little more drunk. It was also my first time so I didn't know what to expect. But I went to sleep pretty easily that night and woke up feeling normal the next day.

On the other hand, my friend took both and also had a tiny bit of beer. he slept for 26 hours.



I don't know why, temazepam is so weak that it feels like a placebo for me, I need at least 30mg to feel slightly anxious, didn't help with my insomnia at all. They are not bogus, I got the script from local pharmacy (well unless the pharm is dodgy). They are branded Nomison. I wonder why they market tamezepam as a hynotic and sleep aid, its the major metabolite of diazepam, which is anxiolytic and are prescribed for day time use as well.. I find it a bit ironic. lol



This is actually my first experience with diazepam. My point being in that post was that the BM ones are weak... But I do know that this chemical peak slowly and have a few active secondary metabolites. So it would take a while to feel the full effects. But 90% of the diazepam metabolites are temazepam, may be this why they are weak for me? I can't justify my claim as I have no other to compare with.

As Nitrazepam have no secondary active metaolite, so it's hit and boom! This is probably why a small dosage of nitrazepam felt more potent in a short time.

Nevertheless, this med did a bloody good job with my anxiety and panic attacks problem (I don't feel like everyone around me hates me or constantly judging me anymore). I can work normally, happily, more proactively and more productive. Its amazing how much it can help. I feel so normal again :P

Another note on the Benzo equivalency chart.
Its doesnt apply to everyone, as different people have different metabolism and gene variation.
Expression level/Mutation in the benzo/gaba receptors might have changed the affinity of the binding of the chemical.

Liver enzymes also plays an important role, food you eat, genetic, gene expression also affects the bioavailability of the substance. A popular instance I can think of is that opiate addicts preload themselve with white grape fruit juice to up-regulate the enzymes complex which is responsible to convert the opiates they are taking into morphine, so that they get a more intense high.

I was not trying imply anything quality of BM's product, it was just a personal experience to share. In fact, their Kpin is bloody awesome. Top notch stuff, I had 1/4 of a 2mg, I felt like I've take 2-3 diazepam.

-Love. J.

Where are the benzos listed on there page? Can't fnd them anywhere?

Thanks

ask laura

placed an order friday. got email last nite saying order has been shipped. then i started getting phone calls from ny ny and baltimore saying they cant accept the same cc ive always used. they were very hard to understand but im pretty sure they were asking for another form of payment.i did not provide this. even my cc company shows pending transaction. this is normal. i feel that a third party was trying to scam me. just my opinion but if the web site dont inform you of a problem through the site, don't trust it. i might be wrong but if i have to give pmnt info over the phone after the web site tells me every thing is ok then i won't use them anymore. i informed bm about this situation but it was not long ago and havn't heard back from them yet. my point is be careful they did know what my order was but my gut said scam.

someone has either hacked their site, or they are selling peoples phone numbers all the sudden. DO NOT give your real phone number when ordering. I know someone who has experienced phone calls right after ordering, from someone claiming to offer the exact same thing that was ordered. this is something that seems to be happening only recently, do not use your real phone number. and if you use your credit card and not a prepaid then your taking a chance at this point in time. but one thing is guaranteed. you will get phone calls.

yea i think your right. i use a cc with a low limit. i max it out almost every time i use it. it only had 10 bucks left on it. so if they did try to use it then they were probably dissapointed. i plan on getting a reloadable green dot visa soon. but this is the first time iv'e had any trouble like this and by the time i got off the phone im sure they understood i wasn't giving them any info. just wanted anyone else who encounters this situation, dont fall for it. always go through the site with any problems.good luck to all.

Basic site meds site has been hacked. sorry if this topic wrong place admin.

i got a call saying my last payment to basic meds had been blocked and they were wanting a payment wired through western union of 125.00 usa $`s, the payment should be made to a FRANKLIN RAMIREZ IN THE DOMINC REPUBLIC. they were very threating in the manner they spoke.

i spoke to laura online at basic meds heres the conversaton we had.....

Please wait for a site operator to respond.
All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.
You are now chatting with 'Laura'
Laura: Welcome to Health Services. My name is Laura. How can I help you today?
me:hi can you help please
laura please provide you order number thank you
me: BMD-12 =90. i have just got a call from someone saying the payment for this shippment was blocked and now they are phoning me asking to wire through western union. i have been in touch with my credit card comp and they say this payment was taken from my card account
Laura: Just a moment please....
Laura: The order is placed in the name of (my name) for xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (90 tabs).
me: yes
Laura: This is to inform you that your order has been shipped via Express Mail on 10-27-2009 and you will receive your order in 9-14 business days.
me: yes ok but has the payment of $125 dollors been recieved by your company
Laura: let me check
me : thank you
Laura: Yes we have received the payment for this order.
Laura: We really apologize for the call which you received.
Laura: This is a scam going on and there are other customers getting the same calls.
Laura: May be the site might have been hacked BUT our technical team is working on it continously.
Laura: We would make a humble request to you not to place the orders with them neither provide with your credit card details.
me: so why is some1 phoning me asking me to wire 124.98 to dom republic
Laura: If you ever wish to place the order please do visit our website on wwwbasicmeds.com OR you may call customer support on 1-877-491-1851 for placing the orders.
Laura: Please do not do any wire transfer for $ 125.00 .
me: ok ty
Laura: They are trying to steal the money of our customers.
Laura: Once again sorry for the inconvenience that has caused to you.
me: ok
me: the name that thet are asking the money to be wired to is a franklin ramirez
me: in the dom republic
Laura: Yes because the wire transfer cannot get cancelled and so you will lose you money. We will take fralin ramirez name and give to our site security
me: ahhhh ok ty again,
Laura: So be careful from such type of scammers.
me: ty laura most helpful
Laura: We cannot cheat our customers because we have been loyal to them since long time.
me: no probs laura
Laura: We are always there for your help 24/7 via phone or by Live Chat
Laura: Or via Email.
me: ty have a nice nite
Laura: You too have a good evening.


just a warning to anyone else who might get a call. ignore dont wire no cash contact basic meds

Nice catch, derry. Good information. Basic seems to have security problems like this about twice a year. I wonder if they just get the occassional crooked employee, or get hacked from outside. The latter can be fixed.

Why did you give an IOP your real phone number?

why not. sometimes they do have legit questions and they have your email address. i only give out cell #'s and after the chat i had with them i have not had any more calls. you want to see harassment, order from friendly clinic.t hey will load your email up. again don't fall for this scam

Did anyone else notice they quit carrying Darvocet?

luckily, I changed my details before the site got hacked. No call yet.

I also saw 30mg Codeine/650mg apap on their site for like a few minutes, then they were gone. Not sure if they decided to take them off or they got sold out that quick. lol