Sorry guys, I don't know what to tell you. I have pics of the envelope, emails from info@shaz-steroids.com that show my royal mail tracking number, and the tracking number on the package matches what Shaz sent me.

It's a .com URL on the shipping label, part of it has "pharma" in it, IP resolves back to the same server as both www.shaz-steroids.com and buy-best-steroids.com.

I don't want to say too much or post pictures of the envelope, but trust me when I say that I am not making a mistake or making any of this up. The package was wrapped tightly but there was still rattle, enough that when I picked it up off the floor I heard and felt it.

I'm not saying I'm not satisfied, but I figured it would be good to share my experiences for the good of the community. I will definitely order from Shaz again.

Hmm... That is a bit of a disadvantage. However, it may have been a one off - I shall see with my package Monday/Tuesday. Regardless, If the product is as good as everyone says, the price certainly makes up for it!!

I'd like to hear your review on the F/Z Diazepam, and whether they do qualify as 10mg in your opinion.

Yeah, I would really prefer for packages not to be marked like that...to me that's just screaming to be inspected and seized. Anyway, it's going to be a couple of days before I can give a comparison between the 10mg Roche Valium and the 10mg F|Z Diazepam, but I will definitely let you know. I'm also going to give a few of the FZ's to a good friend of mine who is experienced with Valium, so I'll let everyone know what his impressions of it are as well.

And I suppose it's a bright idea to post details of the packaging on a site as watched as this one?
It's people like you who make Customs' work that little bit easier.

Let's hope you haven't blown it for the rest of the people who have been sent the same type of package they sent you...

It's like the difference between butter and I Can't Believe It's Not Butter. You can't beat the real thing. JMO

I'm sure that some people will prefer the FZ diazepam pills, but there won't be many.

I usually try to keep out of discussions and arguments about benzo brand strength because it's entirely subjective, but I thought I might chime in with a stupid analogy involving dairy products.

@Lidlwonder - In all fairness, Customs don't need any more suspicion other than the fact that it says "pharma" on it.. That is pretty conspicious right there.

And with the F/Z Diazepam, it is NOT considered to be a subjective difference, rather an objective one. I have heard on the grape-vine that they were tested and didn't contain anywhere near 10mg.

By the way, that analogy is worthless. Let me start:

1) I presume you meant to compare "I can't believe it's not butter" to margarine, because clearly it is not butter.

2) Judging from the difference of taste, I would suspect that they use slightly different ingredients in the different types of margarine, or different ratios of it.

Lastly, presuming the quantitative factor of medicine we are measuring is potency - not taste or shape - the butter analogy shouldn't be compared with generic medicine, as generics are supposed to carry exactly the same amount of active ingredient as listed. Making it theoretically no different then branded versions, and thus proving your analogy redundant.

But that is operating under the assumption that the qualitative factor of butter you are measuring is taste, and the quantitative factor of generic medicine is amount of active ingredient or potency.

is it shaz-steroids.com or shaz-steroids.co.uk?

Christ; and I thought I was pedantic...lol

I was simply saying in a silly way at about 5am that the original Roche Valiums are, in my opinion, superior to the FZs; I wasn't expecting anyone to start talking about actual butter/margarine differences. If I had of made a comparison between restaurant made curry and something you get in a jar in Tesco, you'd probably be talking about the ratio of spices... Jeez.

As for the taste of diazepam, there IS a distinct taste to all diazepam pills. Of course, the fillers and binders make some pills taste a little different and have a different texture, but that bitter diazepam taste is ALWAYS present so long as the pill actually contains diazepam. (I like it when they do)
Whenever I try a new brand of any drug, I always chew them to look for the flavours. Nice, eh?

To sum it up, diazepam pills should taste bitter as that is what the active ingredient tastes like. The FZ pills do taste very strongly of diazepam and they have the effect of diazepam, just like Roche Valium. That's why I said that some people may prefer it, but not many. JMO
I'm sure some people will think that the Roche Valium pills they receive from this place are total bunk.

When Dan from Wholesale Pharmacy used to sell these FZ diazepam pills, the general consensus was that they were pretty good.

As for people getting pills tested: that's usually a load of bollocks. I've also read about people getting these FZ pills tested, but I don't believe it.

May I ask if you have compared Shaz's FZ diazepam pills to the Roche Valium they sell, or are you simply going by what you read on the internet? I'd like to know your personal experience with the two brands in question...

As for the 'Pharma' on the package: yes, a silly thing for them to put on the sticker. For me, they've put other company names on the package, but never 'Pharma'.
I'm sure a lot of people in the US buy medicines from UK pharmacys and I've read of some UK vendors putting Customs declaration stickers on it describing the contents; usually something like pile cream or erectile dysfunction medication - something that Customs workers may believe and leave alone. However, US Customs now know that these 'Pharma' packages are from a site selling steroids and benzos and will no doubt be looking out for them and definitely opening them.

It was unnecessary for the OP to describe the packaging like they did, and I just hope the people with 'Pharma' on their package receive it because Shaz has a strict no reship, no refund policy.

I'd just like to add that I do not wish to start any argument with you because you'd probably rip me to shreds. I'm a just a 28yr old bloke who's got a lot to learn - so be gentle...

I emailed Shaz about the pharma on the label and s/he said "It was a mistake."

Now, whether the mistake was using an old or incorrect label, or the label is new and now they realize it was a mistake, I have no idea. I inferred from the reply that they are either going to phase out or eliminate those labels completely.

Also, Shaz said that the 1mg Ativan sample I got was also a fluke, something from old stock. They no longer sell Ativan 1, only 2's. So, anyone receiving Ativan from Shaz make sure they are actually 2's with current exp dates and not old 1's, the sample 1's I got with my order expired early this year and were manufactured in 2007.

It's shaz-steroids.com or buy-best-steroids.com. Both are hosted at the same IP address and have identical contact contact information including phone numbers, except for the @suffix of the email.

They sent me Atipam-2 lorazepam made by Ind Swift. The blister pack is identical to the one they show on their site. The Tropax they advertise on the ordering page don't exist; it's most probably a typo from Wyeth brand Trapax. Maybe there is a Tropax made in India, but I doubt it. Afterall, Notense did end up being a brand of alprazolam where there were lots of people claiming Notense is a name solely for diazepam.
They also sent me Alltop alprazolam which, unlike the Notense brand, ARE made by Ind Swift.

They should name and describe their products correctly. The 50mg nitrazepam pills come to mind, although to be fair they're not available to order.
50mg of nitrazepam would put me to sleep for a couple of days but would be a fantastic buy, so long as you've got a pill cutter.

Who manufactures these 1mg pills? Also, are you going to throw them away because they're expired?

Yeah, I am the very definition of pedantry.

In regards to the taste of the FZ, I haven't tried them, but the taste isn't really the quantitative measure. Also, I am pretty sure it wouldn't be too hard to make pills 'taste bitter' like Valium do. As I said, I heard it on the grape-vine, and it is probably a load of sh*t

Also, the tests I have read on the internet - which may or may not be true - said that they contain 5mg of Diazepam, and someone else suggested Ketamine - which is probably false. So this would fool your test of bitterness already, and you'd have to judge by effects And then there is the placebo effect to take into account, you might simply convince yourself that they don't taste as strong

Yeah, I would agree with you in regards to the packaging, you have convinced me. And I didn't mean to seem arrogant or anything, lol.

PS - You are still a fair few years older than me!

And there is no reason to undermine yourself like that, lol.

Definitely not throwing them away. They were produced by Ind-Swift in 2007, expiration date of 06/09.

Hi all, I posted earlier. I just wanted to know if anyone had success with delivery to Canada. Any insight would be great. I've only ordered once from the philippines. I did not receive, but did not get an LL either. I had it redelivered, and I did receive.

Thanks!

Trust me, mate, I don't go just by the taste; I buy benzos for their effects, not their exquisite flavour.

As for undermining myself: that's what I do. Life's a lot easier when you can you take the pi33 out of yourself.

I didn't say that was the reason you buy them, I said that seems to be part of your measurement. Anyway, I'll stop going off-topic.

Cool. I hate it when people throw away benzos - especially blister packed ones - because they've 'expired'. If I did that, then I'd have to throw well over half my stash away.

It should be. Benzos do have distinctive flavours to them. Clonazepam tastes minty; diazepam tastes bitter; alprazolam tastes revoltingly bitter and temazepam tastes of, well, nothing. I could go on, but I have to go to the pub for a snifter of port.

Do you not think that a bitter flavour can be replicated, along with a drug which acts similar to valium?

Anyway, the conservation is pointless, lol. 28 and drinking port? LOL You must be joking

Quality wise, for those who have ordered, what are the best products Shaz has available? I am thinking of ordering the Zolt Ambien and the Roche blue Valium. Also maybe a couple of samples of the Temazepam and Roche Clonezepam. Any feedback on these products would be appreciated thanks.

im new here but i decided to gamble some money on this site. I placed my order on the 22 of october, usps tracking did not do anything it just said that my package was inbount in nyc or sumtin, then a small tight, discreet package arrived on friday the 30th

i order roche 2mgrivotril, roche v10 and v5. i think they are of good quality. different taste than ones i would ususlly get but have the same effect. and you cant beat the price

Everyone has different body chemistry so what might appear
awesome to some(Like the sub -lingual notense xanax) for me are fake valium to others.
The prices are cheap..Shipping is free on first order.
If you don't want to risk $100 bucks then don't bother ordering.
You won't find a cheaper place and if you do..plz share.

Totally agree!
I ordered the same items.
Good post and I promise I am not a Shill.

i dont get it, nobody is uncomfortable with going to a WU and wiring money to Paki, with all the nonsense going on over there? noone is concerned about being flagged by the gov't for sending money to a hostile country? or noone is afraid of the person that handles your WU transfer thinking suspiciously of you for sending money over there, and then reporting you? that worries me, i cant fathom sending money there. Noone is uncomfortable about that??

If you can get Google try maps.
The bad boys are in Northern pakistan Islamabad & Swat Valley.
Karachi is down south near India.
Besides my mother in law is pakistani and I needed some old letters
I found in the attic translated.
Hot Damn!

Just wondering now that members are reporting of receiving from 'shaz', did anyone ever apologize and/or take Stubby off the supposed 'Shill' list?

A long time member finds a place he's excited about. Posts here to share, and gets thrown under the "NBG was a longtime member you know" bus.

Many many knew Stubby was not shilling, but knew they would be scolded for sticking up for him.

No place will ever, nor was ever 100% dependable all the time, but I saw a guy get thrown to the wolves.

The claims of him not accepting certain pm's from certain folks, I can't blame him.

But man, the guy was honestly sharing a site he found.
As a matter of fact, way back, he was one who told me about Palmira.

Anyway, just a thought.

Fangz I'm with you.
Stubby seems cool but after reading this post
I could see how admin has doubts :
http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbt...heck_out#UNREAD
Admin calls the shots but I think Stubby is kosher
and not another NBG.

Roch - That was actually to about a different site than Shaz, but I get the point, and you're right. I ate crow for that one and learned a good lesson. It's not like I've done anything like this before, so I'm sure I came off shillish. You can all rest assured, I won't be doing it again. Despite the fact that Shaz has turned out to be incredible (for me at least), it's not worth all this.

Fangz hun...thank you darlin. You know I ya darlin. How thoughtful of you to stick your neck out there. You were one of the few that reminded people I was one of the good guys while the thunder was coming down. Those, like you Fangz, know that I'm just a regular Joe that works too much, loves his little boy, and has similar medical issues to many of those here. I'm most certainly not expecting an apology from this community though. I know times are tough. I think people have been more tolerant since to be honest, so perhaps I'll take that as their apology.

Yes, of course those who know me knew right out that I was simply trying to help. I can understand the environment though too. In fact, I recently was taken for a couple hundred by some fruit loop that disappeared after picking up my money order. I'm sure it's happened to many others, so suspicion is both valid and very very rampid.

I didn't know if Shaz was legit or not when this whole thing started. In fact, I think if some of the original threads had stayed up rather than deleted, much of it could have been avoided. Nephro also played a big part in pointing out some of the issues w/Shaz, and if he/she was legit...what he/she needed to do! Start with samples and go from there.

Shaz has turned out to be one of the best I've ever come across. I placed an order today, asked about the free shipping special, and instead was told I'll get a 10% discount for coming from DB.com. Fair enough for me I guess you better mention you're from here if you want a discount.

Also, as Rochelle mentioned above, order @ your own risk. Or don't order. It does not make any difference to me. Even today I can't guarantee a thing. All I can say is I'm 3-3 with great packaging and great timeliness. Everything I've ordered has worked as they were supposed to. I suppose I haven't spent the time to figure out the subtle differences in how things taste and stuff like that. They've worked for me, and that's all I can tell ya. Nothing's ever been "bitter" tasting to me cause I don't chew anything up.

With all this said, this whole thread is jumbled up with order history, some arguement, and plenty of OT mumbo jumbo. A new thread, specifically around those ordering and their experience would probably be a really good idea. I may start it once I get my tracking info for my upcoming order, unless someone else wants to? Things have been going great thus, but even the best have suddenly fallen off the face of the earth. It would be good if we kept each other informed.

By the way Fagz & Roche...what's another "NBG"? Forgive my lack of lingo.