Except one big thing...a pharmacist knowingly transferred a script a doctor said not to and/or they knew or thought was fake.

That ONLY happens in the movies.

The pharmacy in my case kept stressing to me that they couldn't do the transfer because the doctor had asked them not to. They were willing to fill it THERE and send it to me via Fedex (which I couldn't afford), but they weren't comfortable with the transfer idea.

And again, they weren't going to do it for me at first. I had to call and keep calling. But I wasn't pushy with them and although I was persistent about the transfer I was also polite. Treating overworked people kindly is something I always try to do, even when dealing with telemarketers, and this pharmacist sounded extremely stressed at the time. I got the feeling she had just spoken with a series of very rude and/or angry customers, and sounded appreciative that I spoke to her in a respectful manner. Could that have helped me get the transfer? I don't know, but I'll just say again that a little kindness can go a long way.

(I should also note that I attempted to contact Mimi while all this was going on, but by that time she was not responding to her emails in a timely manner. By the time she finally wrote me back, to her credit, she actually AGREED to let me transfer the script and sent me a bunch of instructions on how to do it. But by that time I had already done it myself.)

Jon

Stacy, while you are correct that the doctor apparently told her not to transfer ANY of the PPC refills (because of that ONE problem customer), she did NOT come out and say the script itself was bogus.

Because she WAS willing to fill it for me there from the very beginning (which financially wasn't an option for me). It was the TRANSFER that made her nervous. It could be I was the only one that was allowed to slip through the cracks. This was not some big pharmacy chain like CVS or WalGreens. I got the impression they were a small local operation.

All I know is that ultimately she agreed to let me tell Publix to call her, and she would do it with the stipulation that she tell the Publix rep that the doctor didn't want any of his scripts transfered. I believe the pharmacists have the right to make that call. But it happened, and that's a fact. It got transfered to Publix and I picked it up later that day.

I also sort of subtly conditioned the Publix pharmacy rep to be prepared in case the Texas pharmacy people gave her a hard time before she called them, and I made it sound as though the reasons were trivial in nature. Whatever was ultimately communicated between the pharmacies I don't know, but it resulted in the transfer. Why Stacy finds this unbelievable I don't know, but as someone with 10 yrs expereince dealing with pharmacies, I know it wasn't so far outside the realm of possibility as she thinks. This stuff happens sometimes. Pharmacist discretion.

Jon

Please give me the name of the pharmacist, I could use the pharmacist that will IGNORE A DOCTOR ABOUT HIS SCRIPT AND RISK LOSING THEIR LICENSE AND PROSECUTION.

I've had longer than 10 years experience with pharmacies, I've even had 8 years experience AT THIS BOARD.

And no it is is NOT a pharmacist's call when the doc says DO NOT TRANSFER, it is AGAINST THE LAW.

I've been around here FOR A LONG TIME and I've seen a lot, trust me.

Oh and make your post after this, I'm done, laws are laws and the only change to them has become more strict, not less.

My suspicion is that she (the pharmacist) knew the Doctor himself was in potential hot water over the PPC connection, and the last thing anyone wanted to do would be to trigger a red flag that would lead back to them.

I think the doctor told her not to transfer any more of the PPC scripts, but I VERY much doubt he was going to pursue any legal action against the pharmacy for the reason listed above, nor do I think he had any intention to report the pharmacy for violating anything. In fact, he (the doctor) may never have been made aware that the transfer occured at all.

Why the pharmacist made the decision she ultimately made, I can't say for sure. Maybe she felt I was a safe risk. I made clear that I understood the legal ramifications of the entire situation, and that it was just as much in my interest as it was in hers for no red flags to be raised. I said that. And again, it was only for 60 pills. Had the script been for 90, I doubt she would have done it.

And as I noted in another post, I actually called the Dr's office and asked them point blank whether or not the doctor cared if I transfered my script. The answer I got was that the doctor couldn't authorize the transfer NOR would he deny the transfer. She never said that the doctor was *against* it, but she was adamant that the doctor wouldn't *authorize* it. She (the doc's secretary) said it was between me and the pharmacist now, and the doctor was essentially out of the loop by that point.

I told the pharmacist that when I called her back. I told her, "Look, I've spoken with the doctor's secretary. She says the doctor doesn't care. It's just 60 pills, ma'am, not some outrageous amount. I'm just as interested as you are in not violating any laws..." and so it went until she consented.

Publix meanwhile treated it like a routine transfer, no big deal, in fact they were all in a rather flippant mood that day it seemed to me.

You have to admit that on some days the people who happen to be working at any given pharmacy (or any given store period) are super strict regarding Rules and regulations, but other days they are acting goofy and telling stories about some coworkers upcoming birthday party, etc. Sometimes they don't even ask to see my ID when I buy Sudafed, and that's a law here in Florida. It all depends on who is working that day. You, Stacy, are not factoring in the human element when considering these realities.

Jon

as someone who has themselves been around this scene for many years. i know your not making anything up. but the whole reason why the pharmacist was sketched out wasnt because of a forgery it was because it was a telemed script and knew there was no F2F.

some pharmacist only found out what telemed was until after RHA passed. some knew and didnt care or didnt ask, when most didnt want to touch anything they knew didnt have a F2F relationship with it.

theres reasons why they made the RHA to begin with and this is one. theres some shady drs and shady pharms and mostly some shady people in between making money of it.

pharmacys closed and were closed down constantly before the law passed

so you dont have to worry or try to defend what your saying most of us know whats up. weve even paid hundreds of dollars ourselves for a direct script to be fedex to us only to open the envelope to find a piece of paper printed of a computer with a drs photocopied sig on it. telling us to just go and have it filled at our local pharmacy that knows us and please stay away from walgreens

so good luck and just remember anything you post publicly is just that public.

Oh please, pharmacist do NOT risk their license unless they are making money themselves.

Now could something be missing from the story? Sure

But it didn't happen with a pharmacist like it has been presented.

Re-reading my initial post, I see that I did make one big mistake. I kept saying I got SIX refills, when techincally I only got FIVE. But in the end, all the Fedex deliveries and Publix fills added up to *six* 60-count bottles of Norco.

Has anyone ever gotten FIVE refills from PPC? It just never happened before, and I had been using them since 2006 (when they were called something else). NO PLACE ever gave me more than two refills.

IF the scripts were legit, this meant the doctor made a decision to authorize them WITHOUT even a final phone consultation, which seems doubtful to me. I think things got very frantic @ PPC after April, with them trying to squeeze as much money out of their customers as possible before they shut down for good. Lots of deliveries, judging from these boards, were shipped out between April and June. Lots of "Thanks PPC!" posts. And why not? We're always grateful when our meds arrive.

I remember the days when I would frantically check the status of my package on the Fedex website, and then frantically check the Weather Channel to see if bad weather might possibly delay the shipment, etc. All these scenarios run through your head. Will it get intercepted? Will the delivery man act suspicious? Is this legal or not or this or that....it was not a pleasant time. It was easy up until 2006, but then the domino effect kicked in and PPC was the last to fall.

It was amazing that once the package arrived (for me, anyway), all these nervous thoughts would instantly go away. No more checking the Fedex site or the Weather Channel. No more worries. Until, of course, the bottom of the pill bottle became visible again.

Jon

anyone getting propatientcares new emails?they have a service for F2F now.from mimi and jodi.im gonna try it out and ill let you guys know what happens.i talked to jodi acouple days ago,i just got email yesterday.they do botox and other stuff there too.seems cool

pop---let us know how it goes, please.

i will they have a doc northern fl.not sure where else.but its a good sign

Pop--any info to share?

Hi guys you know me....formerly of propatientcare. I am now working with a face to face clinic now open in North Florida (Jacksonville area). If you are in the South-Eastern states, you should have been emailed already about the new clinic and structure. If you have not, and would like to know more......please PM me and I will give you the email address to email for more information. I hope to hear from you guys very soon. I miss hearing from my clients. Tammy I got the out of area email from you, however another was sent to you to detail it out a bit better. Poppy still waiting on those records to come in.....

This post is for those of you that had your script at DPS when PPC went out. I can't post out here, but some interesting things have happened since then, and I want to know if I'm the only one in this situation? And why?
... But please, if you are reading this and it makes no sense to you, disregard... But, if you KNOW what I'm referring to; Please PM me.

I dont read the the forums much anymore, so I didn't want to bother everyone w/ useless info, and I didn't want to start a rumor either.

hi jody!my car got messed up getting it fixed tom for the drive up to clinic.im trying to get all of my records together so i can make sure i dont miss anything.i have sooo may its rediculous.im sure you all know what i mean.goodluck to all who are going as well.hopefully things will be bouncing back to normal.thanks jodi and mimi for letting me be a part of the new operation.hope all is well with you all.im sure ill have some words of hope for all you pain sufferes like me waiting for some relief,the gals from ppc never let me down the years i had been with them so im so happy to hear from them.just when things were starting to look pretty bleak.

jody please call me or email me back i have all my records ready and my computer crashed i cant pull up your email with where i need to fax my records.please call me if u read this.happy thanksgiving !

I guess Jody stopped checking the boards. Any luck Poppy?

no luck,found another place for now.hopefully theyll be back in someway,someday.

My husband calls me Pops (or Poppie - little doll in Dutch).

I'm not very big, thus the name. I don't know how to write it in Dutch, but little poop sheit (probably get censored). Endearing terms.

Jon, your story rings true to me and, if I were ordering online, I'd take the 6 refills too. Especially since it stated refills on the bottle.

Having said that - if quitting is your goal - cut it out, lol. You won't quit if you keep using. Just the way it works, ya know? The longer you order, the more difficult it will be.

OK, done preaching. Please know it is out of concern - to support your efforts.

Merry Christmas to you! I hope it has been a good one. I took a bad fall and to top it off, have the flu, so I wasn't able to go to Seattle and be with my kids and grandkids. My oldest son is a professional chef and I KNOW the food was fabulous (and different). I bought gifts though and my daughter took them up.

I didn't just mess up my face, but just about everything, so I'll go.

Rain

I know, OT, but Rain, I am so sorry you missed your trip and hope that you recover quickly.

You are in my thoughts... (Sally will keep you company)