I've been with him for awhile as well and would agree 100% with your statement.

Once he told me sometimes there are less people helping him out and that slows things down. Who really knows though....

92 days? Ouch!---I gotta find me a new source...(I'd ask for a lead--but that just invites a call from the scammers)


Tried a mortar and pestal (to break down time release)--tried hot water after grinding them, tried cold water too. Tried chewing them. Tried everything that has ever worked on any other kind of pill that I have ever tried---never achieved the same results as popping a few codesians straight out of the package...

sitting at 16 days right now---this has only been my 4th order but its the slowest one so far(only by a day tho---15 being the next slowest---the other two at 14 apiece)


Does anyone know if there is a way to order more than 60 at a time from biotran? Maybe if I sent in multiple orders?

I skipped the whole 10-20-30 thing and sent him 60 bucks the first time I tried Biotran---so I'm currently sending money on my next order instead of the last one---can I change that? I sent 120 in my last order and got $60 back with 60 pills.

And if he still does as he has done for years.....

The "vacation" is coming up soon.

A while back he emailed and said to go over 60 ask for a 10 sample,and then I guess go through the process again.I asked,but as Stacy noted,the vacation must have come,never rec'd.Postal problems may also be an issue with 120.If you have another address to use might be best.I don't know how to get to $120.00 and get the free Liroseal he offers.
Everything considered,it is the best out there,and I hope he lasts.The free 10 and then pay is a business model all sites should adopt.
Just my opinion.

No the vacation has not come yet, it is generally during December, can't remember when your order has to be in to be shipped.

A friend just received his order today after 23 days- usually he receives at around two weeks.
I am waiting over three weeks myself. previously ,I was receiving about every two weeks. So things are slow right now. The UK postal strike could be the reason.Or just one of those slower times.

I'm hoping for Monday.

I usually run about two weeks however I dont send in payment until about two weeks after receiving so I average i shipment a month - which is plenty for me. With the december vacation coming up if you are concerned about running out during december send payment as soon as you can in November.

I am over 2 weeks now.

I also prefer the Codeisans to the PERDS when it comes down to it.

Holiday closure starts on the 5th of December 2008 and Biotran reopens on the 5th of January 2009 .The company will still be sending samples out to new customers but will not send any shipments out over this period of time.

Got my order today.

Probably should send in payment before middle of November if you want one more shipment this year.

No shipment or email response for me. I'm still patient!

Hasnt it been almost two months since you emailed them?

I recall it took me many months before I got on 'the list'. The first couple emails I never got a reply until i started sending one a week. Then they said try again in a few months. This went on for almost 8 months. Finally I got my samples.

I did from one email address then decided it might me better to use a more personal email address. If you catch my drift. So, I requested again a week or two ago.

All is good...received in 28 days. Apparently things are taking a bit longer this time around.

Only been 10 days since 2nd request. No email from him or anything. sounds like I have a long wait! If I get anything at all.

i've never seen benzos on their site. is that because it's the UK, or is it because they don't carry it?

Hey, I did get a message! Here's what it said:

"When things are free you get big lines,just be patient."

Thought that was funny cuz I mentioned being patient on previous post.

Guess he does have a sense of humor. It's true, it took me several months before I received my sample. I would email then he would reply about a week later and tell me me check back on such and such a date, this went on for months then voila sample received and the process began. Good luck to you.

I received on Monday -I checked my calendar it was only 2 weeks not three.

That Dec. vacation period is coming in a month. I would like to get in two orders this month. meybe, maybe not.

I would guess if you turn around very quick with your payment you can still get another order in this month. If you mean two more orders that would be a good trick.
Let us know how it works out for you.

I have never seen Benzos from Biotran. There are a number of sites run out of the UK that do carry Benzos so it has nothing to do with location.

Well I've been playing email back and forth with this cat since August. I mailed order form middle of September and haven't received my sample

I wrote him and got the response that he mailed it at the end of September... I hate to be a pest and keep bugging him...

Do you think I should send off another order form? What would anyone suggest???

You might want to try calling him. I'm a long time customer of Biotran, but still ran into some difficulties several months ago. I found phoning him was more effective.

could you pm me that phone #?---I'm starting my fourth week in a couple of days---glad to hear its taking so long for everyone (not just me)

I dropped two different orders for codesian in the mail today (to beat the holiday--knock on wood)---live in the upper midwest---I'll let you know if he says okay and I get the orders...

For those in the beginning sample stage i would advise ---patience. It took my friend like three months to get full on the program this year with zero e mails or phone calls.

Do as you see fit , but I have gotten on twice in seven years and just waiting it out has been the game.

He is very strict about his ordering system. One type of med at a time, one order at a time and the size of the order is limited.

He has his own peculiar method of sending payments as well and If you read far enough back in this thread you will probably see examples of people that sent in unsolicited orders with cash up front and he sent the money back. I even recall a post where someone lost his 'special' payment envelope and he sent their money back.

I recall a couple people on this thread that swore up and down that they broke his Rules and sent in money and actually got the meds they desired.

I never went through the "sample" process---I just sent him 60 bucks and a filled out order form; and got my first shipment two weeks later. While there is much speculation about the guy---I just operate by what it says on his website---which isn't very much (LOL). I guess I skipped the samples because it was the best hope I found on this site (and still is--so far) and wanted to skip straight to the "meat and potatoes" of it. I'm kind of envious of the people who did go through the full process---since they are paying for what they received rather than paying and then praying(like me). I'm still looking for a back-up source (and have received several PMs from people who wanted to sell me their pills (probably mostly scams---not taking any chances either way) but I want to do business with an established company rather than a person. Its kind of a rough landscape---not knowing what the scams are and what the real deals are----and when I find one that seems like the real deal it seems like 3/4 are just shills! Plus the problem of cost---my God---the buck-a-pill rate at biotran is less than half of what I see on the cheapest of other sites. I still am waiting for my order---but I got a few from him---I'm just hoping I can "feel out" what is acceptable ettiqute for dealing with him before he bans me from his services (does he even do that?)

You said you placed two orders at the same time? Without the plastic thing? I would guess you may be facing a ban very soon....

That is probably why he sent money back to you once before. Sometimes he is really strict with his ordering process and only wants orders along with the plastic sleeves. You'll have to keep us posted.

Oops---I just read his site to see if I "missed" any of his Rules. He says "no orders shipped without plastic envelope as of 13/4/09 (I assume thats april 13th)"----but I guess he took pity on me 'cause I assure you that I did skip the sample process. The last two I sent I shipped with just order forms and payments---keeping my fingers crossed. Hoping the sheer volume of pre-holiday orders masks my over-eagerness---or that he at least sends back the cash (he did before when I tried to order 120 with the envelope----that is; he sent the pills and $60 back)----I'll let ya know how things turn out. Wayne seems like a fairly eccentric businessman---subject to whims and fits---so maybe I'll scrape by. Certainly there are as many "followed the Rules and got shafted" stories as "didn't follow the Rules and got shafted" in this thread----luck of the draw. I guess it comes down to luck whenever (or wherever) you order anyway---so I'll take my chances and see how it goes...

I have to agree with Mickeymantle and Bladerunner on this one. Particularly on the patience aspect. I've been a customer for 6 years. The only thing you can count on is their unpredictability and inconsistency. BUT they have (knock on wood) always eventually come through for me. I remember 3 or 4 years ago when his turnaround time was consistently 10 days every time. I ended up with a surplus and didn't send payment for a few months. When I finally did resume with payments, no product came! I finally called him after 6 weeks or so and he explained that he "deactivated me in his system" due to the time lapse in payments. He did "re-activate me" and since then I just share any surplus with friends. Right now I'm at 24 days and waiting.