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#948343 - 10/23/09 08:24 PM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: chuckee]
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Member
Registered: 06/30/09
Posts: 105
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I had the same problem one day. I posted 3 or 4 and my count did not change. I was watching because I really need it to get to 200. Anyone, can do this and quick, but I don't want to post too much info on the places that are working great for me. It seems the more attention a site gets, the sooner we lose them. I have been a guinea pig for some risky sites lately, but on the ones requiring 200, even if I had 200 I would not say too much or post too much. Too many posts, especially on the sites with HTF products is a guarantee they will close shop much sooner than their life span should be. This is proven if you just read a lot like I do. One of these sites with 200 rule that's good and been around for longer than the others has far less posts. IMO it's because you might think you're helping a site by posting a lot of positive experiences, but once you do, then more start asking questions (more posts), then more start ordering and leaving more feedback(more posts), then increased ordering and they initially can't keep up (more posts). All of this results in too much attention and they all shut down shortly after. I hope I didn't go to far off topic, but the bottom line is I want 200 for the right to post if I have relevant info to share, but I don't know if I'll ever reach it, not without just posting to post. I like to keep my orders private. When all goes well I just post vague info like took 4 days. I don't want to post dates, etc. I've been using IOPs and NROPs (under old laws) for 7 years. I have a wealth of experience, but I'm not a poster. I didn't even do my first post here until I joined a few months ago. I guess I'll just try to post more even if isn't really comfortable for me. See-long winded-another reason I don't post. hahaha
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#948555 - 10/24/09 12:16 PM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: Administrator]
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Member
Registered: 06/30/09
Posts: 105
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I agree and sorry if I sounded like this was saying this was unfair or anything to offend anyone. The day you changed the Rules I was glad. I watched what happened with yourrxneeds (i think that was it-so many similar names) and it was a feeding frenzy because of all the positive posts from members with similar post counts to mine. They were clearly shills and one long time member with lots of posts had a positive experienced he shared and then at least one or two more with same company. Then things went bad and everyone blamed him (in a way) even though all he did was post his experience and he had a high post count. Nobody looked at the big picture which was thee was all that positive feedback from new folks. If you're like me you look at what else they've posted to see if it's of value or if they were obviously just trying to get enough posts to look good enough to sort of trust. Again, I was happy and the decision was right and has saved me from getting scammed. I'm just bummed that I probably won't get to 200 or it will take me awhile. This was never meant to be a slam or negative toward the board or administrators. I was really just venting about my own issues, blaming myself and not anyone else. I just wish we had an honest society where folks could be trusted. You sit and have coffee with me, you would know I'm a nice, honest guy. I hate I have to to post 200 times to prove that, but I agree with it wholeheartedly. Again, it saved me from losing money 2 times already. I had money in hand. Things started to go sour and I followed the advice of the 200+ folks I trust and sure enough, I was saved from being taken. Thanks for your response and I'm sorry if I came off wrong. I will post more if I feel what I have to say is going to help anyone. also, if you look through the 45 (I know not many) posts I have, I think you'll see I've been sharing experience. I don't go overboard, because there's so many real shills that honest folks with low posts like me sometimes get called shills. I had a positive experience with Europevendor right befoe the wheels fell off. I posted about it, as did a couple others, and immediately everyone started shouting Shill, so it's a fine line. That's all I meant. I hope all ok? I never wanted anyone feeling like I was questioning the policy. I agree 100% with it. I just can't partake for awhile .....that's all I was saying.
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#949003 - 10/25/09 05:13 PM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: New4Here]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 1578
Loc: Eugene, OR
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New - you apologized. Good enough. I've done my "bads" too. And cringe. You'll be OK. The thing is - and you get it - is to make amends. It is the nature of a web forum that we cannot really "know" the poster. After awhile you get an idea about them, but, even then, you don't know them.
Your last post tells volumes about you. You don't mean to offend, etc. Much appreciated. We need posters like you.
Happy Sunday. Rainy, cold, cloudy, but, hell, I'm here.
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#950957 - 10/29/09 02:14 AM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: Nutshell]
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Member
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 111
Loc: Between here and Eternity
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I was reading this thread the other day, and didn't write anything because I really don't feel that this subject applies to me.... I mean, if there is something I want to know about... or am curious or whatever in those forums, I can still read what is there - even if I don't have enought posts to post there. But just now.. AGAIN, I ran across something that I do find annoying. And that is people who post one-liners or less, usually totally irrelevant to the thread anyway, and not of any sort of help. It seem obvoius that they are just trying to get their post count up. I think what annoyed me especially about this one, is that the post count is near 200 now, and yesterday, it was under 100. (Don't ask me who it is because I don't remember off hand, but would easily recognize them if I ran into another of their posts.) So, it's not that hard for a person/ Shill to reach the required 200 posts in a matter of a couple of days, while in the meantime, they are contributing absolutely nothihg and their posts are just nuisances. Anyway, I know I'm still "new" and don't really feel it to be my place to be making any suggestions... but maybe I missed it elsewhere, but in case I didn't, I just wanted to mention something. If there was a minimum lenght of time of being registered (say maybe 3 - 6 months... just for example), rather than a post count requirement, then it seems that in the amount of time of having to be registered, if one was only here to be a Shill, then by the time they could post in the Bl forums, any OP they were thinking of shilling for would already have either probably gone under, or at least there would be sufficient reviews from legit people on it (either good or bad), that shills would be less likely to register here at all. Also, cut down on the useless, irrelevant one-liner posts... Just a thought.....
Edited by notamused (10/29/09 02:17 AM)
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#951232 - 10/29/09 11:55 AM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: stevo1]
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Member
Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 111
Loc: Between here and Eternity
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Thanks Taz... I think at the moment, I'm a bit "gunshy" about saying anything at all about anyone because a couple hours ago, I made a post in which I did point out a couple of people who had been doing basically what I was talking about here. I only thought it was O.K. to mention their names in the post because they have since been banned (I guess they were banned, none of their posts are here at all anymore, all that's left of their usernames is where others have quoted them). Anyway, just a few minutes after I posted that post, I was "denied access" to the whole thread! Then, I realized that I had also mentioned the name of someone who had not been banned... but so was everyone else! Maybe that's what I did wrong.. maybe none of them can see the thread either? I know I take things too personally often, and when I get feeling like this, I feel like I shouldn't post at all. I don't know.. I'm sure you and Stevo are right..... Still, I'm thinking I should at least take a break.. before I write something REALLY stupid....  Take good care....
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#951884 - 10/30/09 10:10 AM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: notamused]
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Board Addict
Registered: 07/10/04
Posts: 355
Loc: mid atlantic
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*sigh* i've been on db.com over five - 5 - years, but since i was mostly over on VIP before it died, my posts split between here and the VIP side. combined, i easily have over 200 posts. now? i have to work my way back up. after 5 years...i understand you need an html/sql stmt that will be easy to parse, and number of posts are. but now, i have to build my posting back up because my VIP posts don't count... well, Rules is Rules. i won't post stupidly, but i'll work towards the 200 by trying to help other PD patients in the anxiety/panic forum and provide comments to others on LLs, what NROPs i think are good, etc.
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#952766 - 10/31/09 07:58 PM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: Administrator]
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Threadhead
Registered: 06/24/08
Posts: 829
Loc: Lost in America
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Hi Admin, Its me again. I'm not trying to be a thorn in your side. you already know where I stand on this issue. But, there are states were you can drink at 18, there are exceptions even to any age limit for religious ceremonial purposes and even weed is allowed to be smoked for a legal religous reason. You can join the military if you are under 18 (17) with permission of parent or guardian and meet every other qualification. And you can even enter into contracts at 18 or younger if you are an empancipated minor, including car rental with some companies. I point this out because there are exceptions to every rule. I accept the 200 post limitation after our friendly disagreement but several good suggestions for modifying the rule have been made such as considering the number of posts on the VIP side or the length of time a person has been a member if its a reasonable number (say 100) and have added to the value of the board and not just been shilling. I hope you will consider that these may make sense. And as always, your Rules, RULE and will be abided by. And finally, thanks again for all you do for us by the effort it takes to manage this site. I don't manage a site but I have been involved with the Internet since 1993 when the first browser, Mosaic, was introduced and I know its not just a hobby! Be well. Don
Edited by Odman (10/31/09 07:59 PM)
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#954137 - 11/03/09 12:57 AM
Re: We are now requiring 200 posts to post in the "Enter at your own risk" category
[Re: Stacy]
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Board Addict
Registered: 07/10/04
Posts: 355
Loc: mid atlantic
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I have the same problem. I have been here for 6 years and my posts have always had content both on the VIP side and on the Free board. Is it true that if a post or a thread that one posts in is deleted by the mods then those posts do not count in the post count? I understand why the rule was made but I think longevity should also play a part. I mean someone who has been a member for six years is hardly going to start shilling. Oh if that were true. We've had even longer time members that have down right scammed people here. totally agree. i will work at posting what i can to help others, even if it's just agreeing that whether Rules are fair or not, they are here to help us all. *anyone* could have been on here longer than i have and been LE, just silently watching and taking notes. the posts show you care, you are part of the group, and you are trying to help the group.
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Be reckless...this is the footprint you'll have left on the earth. Allow yourself to be unembarrassed. - Nuala O'Faolain
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