You are probably right woops. mine came from a e mail source years ago that is not talked about any more like it was back them. I am not needy as i was back then got some good docs fortunatly. I just want enough benzos to last me throught the year then I will probably go back into hibernation like before.

yah it is hard to order from someone that has a delivered you a LL. Things are getting so hard to get anything these days. back a few years ago anything anytime.

TM

I suspect seizures are up substantially, and there are unfortunately some good reasons to suspect this is not accident.

However only scheduled drugs are subject to seizure.

1). Prior to 9/11 cooperation among federal agencies, and the ability to conduct widespread surveillance activities on American Citizens were highly restricted. One consequence is the US Government should be considered to be reading all of your email and web traffic. If you order by email,or web-form, the odds on interception are high. So they often know the goods are on the way. What happens next is worse. If the email/or web order form contains a mailing address, a 9 digit zip code exists for it.

So instead of having to search through all of the mail as it comes in (and when it enters the USA, it gets bar coded with the 9 digit zip code), Customs can simply pull off all mail to specific 9 digit zip codes.This vastly simplifies the problem for customs.I doubt it is difficult to program the scanners in mail system to pull specific 9 digit zip codes.

2). Once you have had a seizure, for some period of time, I suspect all of your incoming International mail gets checked by US Customs, your 9 digit zip code is on their 'search list'. I have seen huge delays in incoming International Mail at the Port of Entry with Express and Global Priority Mail (7-10 days)for years after a seizure. I am convinced this time is spent waiting for customs inspection.

The bottom line is these days, once you get a seizure notice, you are likely to get many more if you try to ship scheduled drugs into the USA to the same address.

my thoughts anyway

That's total bunk. They have neither the time nor the manpower for such actions.

I just got one love letter which was for Dutasteride. I simply told them I didn't order nothing: no problem then.

You miss the point. It is very easy on man power now. The Post Office pulls off only mail addressed to the specific 9 digit zip codes. They don't have to search all of the mail, the postal sorting equipment does it for them!

No, you miss the point. You're talking out of your a$$. Zip codes don't have jack to do with anything.

Cleo is right.
Especially now in slow economic times.
I have read most of the LL threads on this board and if such a thing were true
I would have read it. However, I hear Miami is not the best POE.

I also agree.If that were a fact I would never recieve a package.I have used the same address for years with more orders than I would like to post.I have had many seizures but only 2 LL'S.As Rochelle5mg said I worry about anything that comes through Miami and Express delivery through J.F.K. N.Y..Both my LL'S was through E.M.S. at J.F.K..Customs do not only seize Schedule 2 drugs.I have had Viagra seized at J.F.K. Thats my experience over the years. B.D.

Has anyone had any sch. II items seized when ordering from IOP and if so what was outcome

I think some people have, in that it was only codiene, not a combo product, and IIRC, that is Sch II, with APAP, it is Sch III.

The one time I had a seizure I think, but don't remember, that it was just codiene, not codiene/apap, but nothing happened.

But remember, just because nothing happened to 2000 people that doesn't mean you can't be the one that something will happen. It's the risk you take when ordering stuff like that and honestly, Sch II is not worth the risk, IMO.

Stacy so codeine is a sch II narcotic

IIRC, just codiene is, not T3's or T4's. Let me look it up, hang on.

Yes, codiene that is NOT a combo product IS Sch II:

http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

Wondering how many who have recieved LL's recived them via Fedex, DHL, UPS, ETC... not USPS and also was there any difference than when you have recieved LL from USPS

I've never rec'd from a private courier service, but it seems like I remember the ones that had it taken that way, found it was detained by checking the tracking number.

Are you missing a package or expecting one or just wondering? A little more info might help you get some better answers.

Aren't there millions of 9-digit zip codes? If customs had one customer suspected of importing something he/she wasn't supposed to be importing, then that includes thousands if not hundreds of thousands of 9-digit zip codes. There is no way they could pull off all "suspicious" zip codes and go through everything for one customer in one zip code, or even 1,000 customers in one zip code. We all must remember, people order things other than meds on the internet.

I think that customs is concerned with meds, but also very concerned with people who import things like bogus DVD's, purses, sunglasses, fake watches and all the other stuff you can buy on the streets in any city. Just google search and you'll find forums about people who import mass amounts of DVD's and get the same kind of LL's.

Also, customs wants to make sure if you're importing something legally, you pay taxes for it, and what is more important to the government than money? I really think that they're most concerned with collecting taxes on the people who order single things like a sweater or a pair of shoes on eBay from China -- so they can collect the taxes. Yes, they're concerned with meds, but way more concerned with collecting money.

Every zip code is a 9 digit zip code.

Nobody has ever received a LL from anybody other than the USPS.

having relatives that know something about imports, customs, inspection...for reasons i'm obviously not gonna say...

NO. NOT TRUE that they are that efficient or that they are that organized.

they're looking for incoming DANGEROUS things like, oh, 9/11-ish stuff. and even then, the percentage they grab is way low, because otherwise the mail system would screech to a halt. and usps is already in bad shape financially; don't have the money, and customs is part of HS, which has problems right now larger than this, believe me.

ignore LLs. do not respond. trash them. that is all you need to do.

recieved LL yesterday first ever.. Tracking # still shows package is at Hub being processed.

Absolutely not true if it was so simple as that every IOP would send via Fedex, DHL...

yes its true and it will stay that way for 30 days until they destoy package

Never had a love letter *knock knock* on wood!

I got one on my first and only order. Lucky me.

Are they as common in Canada as the United States when ordering from IOP?

Seizures probably are; with or without the LL's.

True, I ask because I don't see any posts but one about LLS for canadians (atleast I could find on google), and i've had good luck importing stuff to date with not a single seizure (not meds, but once a taser, some spyderco knives that could be opened with centrifugal force, etc).
I guess in Canada a LL letter means nothing though other then a seizure like the US, and nothing to worry abut legality or blacklist wise for your mail, right?

0 is an amount and a number. It would be a perfectly valid option and would have given a better idea of how much stuff gets seized.
If I ask you how many times you have won the lottery jackpot the amount/number you are likely to tell me is 0.

Never had a love letter hope i can keep it like this

I have copy of LL that I recieved , would like to post on board but dont see any option to attach fil.. Anyone know how??

Go to the "Switch to Full Reply Screen" and then click on the "file manager" link.

You can then add a file to attach there.