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#942566 - 10/12/09 12:29 AM Please help Fingers numb turning blue
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Can someone tell me what is wrong with me. I right fingers are numb and they are blue.
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#942575 - 10/12/09 12:42 AM Re: Please help Fingers numb turning blue [Re: TAZLOVER]
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OK I read to run fingers under warm water. I did that. Now they hurt like helll.
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#942589 - 10/12/09 01:39 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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OK. All I did was go to the store. Before I even got there, my fingers were ice cold and numb. They were numb all the time inside the store and by the time I got to the car, I could hardly get the stuff into the vehicle. I had trouble shifting gears and it's an automatic on the floor. Hard to steer my way home. By the time I got home, the tips of my right hand fingers were blue.
I ran my hands under pretty warm water until they started to hurt. Still took a while to get the feeling back.

Does anybody have any idea, what the heck happened to me. I looked up options on Google and some were pertaining to herniated disk.

Does anyone have any incite on this? I almost went to the ER.

Taz


Edited by TAZLOVER (10/12/09 01:40 AM)
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#942590 - 10/12/09 01:43 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Originally Posted By: TAZLOVER
OK. All I did was go to the store. Before I even got there, my fingers were ice cold and numb. They were numb all the time inside the store and by the time I got to the car, I could hardly get the stuff into the vehicle. I had trouble shifting gears and it's an automatic on the floor. Hard to steer my way home. By the time I got home, the tips of my right hand fingers were blue.
I ran my hands under pretty warm water until they started to hurt. Still took a while to get the feeling back.

Does anybody have any idea, what the heck happened to me. I looked up options on Google and some were pertaining to herniated disk.

Does anyone have any incite on this? I almost went to the ER.


Taz


Cyanosis?
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#942591 - 10/12/09 01:43 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Taz, Both hands or just one hand?
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#942592 - 10/12/09 01:46 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: 70727487]
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Mostly the right hand fingers. The three in the middle. Also my pinky on the left hand.
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#942593 - 10/12/09 01:49 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Do you have a bp cuff and is your arm to that hand cold? What is your heart rate? You can pm me!
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#942594 - 10/12/09 01:51 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: 70727487]
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I did PM you again. LOL
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#942595 - 10/12/09 01:53 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Good ! I pm'd you back.
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#942596 - 10/12/09 01:58 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Mostly the right hand fingers. The three in the middle. Also my pinky on the left hand.


Taz-

If you're not experiencing any of the classic symptoms of a cardiovascular event, it could just be exposure to cold. I suppose the cyanosis would reverse when you warmed back up though.

Not trying to upset you, but I personally would go to the ER or call my doctor first thing... just to rule out other possibilities.
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#942597 - 10/12/09 01:59 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: murbella]
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Keep us posted Lady!
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#942600 - 10/12/09 02:09 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: murbella]
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Taz, hope you are okay.

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#942603 - 10/12/09 02:34 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: Milvus]
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707 is helping me through PM's.
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#942654 - 10/12/09 10:46 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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I just saw this. Please let us know when you figure it out. Don't let it go too long w/out at least calling your doc.
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#953061 - 11/01/09 11:48 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: meonlyits]
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This sounds like Raynaud's http://www.arc.org.uk/arthinfo/patpubs/6052/6052.asp

"Rewarming:
If your hands and feet get very cold do not put them on the nearest radiator or directly in front of the gas fire - always reheat them slowly, as too much heat too quickly can cause damage and considerable pain.
Dip your hands and feet into a bowl of warm but not hot water and alternate with cold water, until they come back to life, then dry thoroughly."

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#953075 - 11/01/09 12:22 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: KidKagoule]
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Originally Posted By: KidKagoule
This sounds like Raynaud's http://www.arc.org.uk/arthinfo/patpubs/6052/6052.asp

"Rewarming:
If your hands and feet get very cold do not put them on the nearest radiator or directly in front of the gas fire - always reheat them slowly, as too much heat too quickly can cause damage and considerable pain.
Dip your hands and feet into a bowl of warm but not hot water and alternate with cold water, until they come back to life, then dry thoroughly."


Just reading this and the info is correct, you need to reheat slowly and ALWAYS wear gloves in the cold and even in weather that is just a bit chilly.

My aunt has this, her hands get so blue they turn almost black. IIRC, this is more common in women than men.
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#953077 - 11/01/09 12:28 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: Stacy]
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That is exactly what happens to me. It wasn't very cold at all when it happened to me. Sometimes I feel like wearing gloves in my house. At first, I thought it was because of my weight loss. Then thought it was my torn nerve in my back. It's really freaked me out that night. I'm really not looking forward for this winter.
I was stupid enough to run my hands under hot water. Talk about pain. I was in a panic at the time. First idea was to get my hands warmed up asap.
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#953078 - 11/01/09 12:29 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Nope, it is a vascular issue. You need to talk to your doc about this, there might be other things that can cause these same issues that are vascular.
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#953080 - 11/01/09 12:33 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: Stacy]
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I have Cardiomyapathy. Damage to my left ventricle when I was in labor with son 18 years ago. They did tell me that with age, it could get worse.
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#953082 - 11/01/09 12:41 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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I was thinking just in the arms and hands, but it seems emotional stuff can affect it also. It is a spasm.

Quote:
Raynaud's phenomenon (RP) is a condition resulting in a particular series of discolorations of the fingers and/or the toes after exposure to changes in temperature (cold or hot) or emotional events. Skin discoloration occurs because an abnormal spasm of the blood vessels causes a diminished blood supply to the local tissues. Initially, the digit(s) involved turn white because of the diminished blood supply. The digit(s) then turn blue because of prolonged lack of oxygen. Finally, the blood vessels reopen, causing a local "flushing" phenomenon, which turns the digit(s) red. This three-phase color sequence (white to blue to red), most often upon exposure to cold temperature, is characteristic of RP.

Raynaud's phenomenon most frequently affects women, especially in the second, third, or fourth decades of life. People can have Raynaud's phenomenon alone or as a part of other rheumatic diseases. When it occurs alone, it is referred to as "Raynaud's disease" or primary Raynaud's phenomenon. When it accompanies other diseases, it is called secondary Raynaud's phenomenon.


What causes Raynaud's phenomenon?

The causes of primary and secondary RP are unknown. Both abnormal nerve control of the blood-vessel diameter and nerve sensitivity to cold exposure have been suspected as being contributing factors. The characteristic color changes of the digits are in part related to initial blood-vessel narrowing due to spasm of the tiny muscles in the wall of the vessels, followed by sudden opening (dilation), as described above. The small arteries of the digits can have microscopic thickness of their inner lining, which also leads to abnormal narrowing of the blood vessels.


The rest can be found here:

http://www.medicinenet.com/raynauds_phenomenon/article.htm

You need to read this, Raynauds can be a problem or a symptom, so it needs to be discussed with your doc, like.....THIS WEEK. smile


Edited by Stacy (11/01/09 12:42 PM)
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#953085 - 11/01/09 12:54 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: Stacy]
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I go back to him next Friday. I have other problems with my back at the moment. I'll make a note of it and mention it to him. Usually by the time I get in there, I forget some of the other things going on with me.

I know. Stupid. Only got 15 minutes to discuss everything with him. Right now, my disability took priority.
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#953088 - 11/01/09 12:59 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Just have him call me after the visit to CONFIRM you discussed this with him and that will suffice. wink
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#953092 - 11/01/09 01:16 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: Stacy]
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No problem Doc. rofl5
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#954872 - 11/04/09 06:51 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Sad thing is he's most likely going to assume you're a hypochondriac/hysterical woman. smack

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#954884 - 11/04/09 07:47 AM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Only got 15 minutes to discuss everything with him. Right now, my disability took priority.


And of course, he spends 5 of those minutes ranting about his other 'criminal' patients.

Maybe you could talk to your PCP about this condition since your PM doc is such a wacko.
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#955220 - 11/04/09 04:06 PM Re: What can cause numbness in fingers and they turn blue?? [Re: imstylistic]
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Sad thing is he's most likely going to assume you're a hypochondriac/hysterical woman. smack


Why do you say that?

RS is very, very common with women.
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