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#915414 - 08/06/09 04:07 PM Phenergan - how can this be prescription free?
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I can't believe Phenergan is prescription free in the UK. I took 2 x 25mg pills as a sleeping aid and could barely walk the next morning - it made me soo sedated. The half life is really long as well. Anyone else tried this?

Marc

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#915425 - 08/06/09 04:50 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: marcus09]
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I took it for years while recovering from an illness. The sedating effects are non-existent after continued use. Some of the most effective I have ever had where the Avomine brand from the UK. It is also available world wide under the brand name Gravol.

I stopped taking it when I realized that I could get 100ct. generic Dimenhydrinate for less than $3.00 at my local pharmacy and it is just as effective in combating nausea.

Don't rush out and buy a whole lot of it if you are wanting to take it for sleep because like I said, the sedating effects are very short lived.
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#915431 - 08/06/09 05:06 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: Bryan72577]
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I finally quit taking phenergan after years of using it for migraine-nausea. It totally quit working.

The sedative effect was gone within the first 3 months or so of using it.

I rotate between meclizine, dimenhydrinate and zofran or compazine.
(Zofran will cost your first born child though)
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#915437 - 08/06/09 05:19 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: marcus09]
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Originally Posted By: marcus09
I can't believe Phenergan is prescription free in the UK. I took 2 x 25mg pills as a sleeping aid and could barely walk the next morning - it made me soo sedated. The half life is really long as well. Anyone else tried this?

Marc


It says on the back of my pack to take one 25mg pill at NIGHT to combat travel sickness for the next day and the same for allergic conditions. Taking x2 pills is only recommended for insomnia, so maybe stick to just one pill.
They even recommend that children between 5-10 years old can take it for short term sedation.

Two pills made me pretty drowsy the next day when I used it as a sleep aid. Won't be trying that one again; I've got better sleep-aids.

I get hayfever sometimes, so I've got Phenergan and cetirizine hydochloride (Zyrtec) pills in case.
It makes me laugh how much some IOPs sell Zyrtec for when I buy the One-A-Day economy brand from Boots for Ģ0.98. The Phenergan pills cost me Ģ4.50`ish for 56 pills at Sainsburys.



Edited by Lidlwonder (08/06/09 05:35 PM)

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#915464 - 08/06/09 06:19 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: Lidlwonder]
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Yes, and Sominex in the UK is a brand of promethazine, just like Phenergan, but about 8x the price. You can also get Phenergan Night Time now, which helps you sleep better by having a picture of the moon on the box.

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#938441 - 10/03/09 09:36 AM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: nephro]
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It's a H1 antagonist so it has absolutely no abuse potential. This is why it's OTC.

Interestingly it's also a weak neuroleptic ie. it blocks dopamine receptors. If you take high doses such as 75 mg/day you risk tardive dyskinesia.

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#938574 - 10/03/09 01:41 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: _99]
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You are incorrect again (surprise), as someone once said. Actually, promethazine has been, and still is, abused in the UK, and not all pharmacies will sell it:

http://www.norfolk.police.uk/drugsfactsheet.cfm#overthecounterTop

Norfolk Police spelled Phenergan wrongly, but what can one expect?

Promethazine was originally classified as a phenothiazine, and later discovered to be more of an antihistamine.

Bear in mind that "abuse" can mean that the product is being taken for sleep rather that in accordance with its product licence, which is rather silly since the same product is available as a hypnotic but with a picture of the moon on the pack.

However, Nytol is also a Red Card product, which even if a customer uses it for sleep, the pharmacist shouldn't be selling it to the same person often.

Welcome to the weird and wonderful world of UK OTC medicines.



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#938601 - 10/03/09 02:31 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: _99]
martind Offline
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Originally Posted By: _99
It's a H1 antagonist so it has absolutely no abuse potential. This is why it's OTC.



It definitely does have an established potential for abuse which is why it not OTC but rather a C-IV scheduled medication in the US.
Wrong again.
(LOL)

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#938920 - 10/04/09 02:17 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: nephro]
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LOL no it's you who is wrong again. Your accusations are getting thinner and thinner. Do you never get tired of posting wrong information?

Quote:
You are incorrect again (surprise), as someone once said. Actually, promethazine has been, and still is, abused in the UK, and not all pharmacies will sell it:

http://www.norfolk.police.uk/drugsfactsheet.cfm#overthecounterTop


If you take a closer look at the link you will read the word 'misused', not abused.

Quote:
Bear in mind that "abuse" can mean that the product is being taken for sleep rather that in accordance with its product licence, which is rather silly since the same product is available as a hypnotic but with a picture of the moon on the pack.


The link reads 'misuse'. Are you dyslexic?

This is from your link -->
Quote:
...most commonly misused OTC medications.


Misuse means to use the product incorrectly. Did you know that?

I know more about OTC medications than you ever will LOL

"NEXT!"....

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#938926 - 10/04/09 02:32 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: martind]
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It definitely does have an established potential for abuse which is why it not OTC but rather a C-IV scheduled medication in the US.
Wrong again.


You take the cake in terms of misinformation. Promethazine is unscheduled. Cough syrups containing codeine and promethazine are scheduled, not promethazine. -->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promethazine
http://www.drugs.com/pro/phenergan.html
http://www.erowid.org/pharms/promethazine/promethazine_law.shtml

Do you have no shame? To display such blatant ignorance on a public forum? rofl5

"NEXT!"...


Edited by _99 (10/04/09 02:33 PM)

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#938996 - 10/04/09 04:38 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: _99]
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Well done, Agent 99. You are correct that Phenergan without codeine is not a C-IV medication in the US. It is dispensed RX ONLY, though, not OTC.
However, your assertion that it has "absolutely no abuse potential" is not at all borne out by my experience. It is abused.
The controlled drug scheduling process in the US is by no means perfect. Just because a prescription medication is unscheduled, it does not mean that it cannot be abused. I can point to addiction problems with Soma, Tramadol and Nubain as excellent examples of this today.
LOL

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#939102 - 10/04/09 08:41 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: _99]
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Originally Posted By: _99
LOL no it's you who is wrong again. Your accusations are getting thinner and thinner. Do you never get tired of posting wrong information?

Quote:
You are incorrect again (surprise), as someone once said. Actually, promethazine has been, and still is, abused in the UK, and not all pharmacies will sell it:

http://www.norfolk.police.uk/drugsfactsheet.cfm#overthecounterTop


If you take a closer look at the link you will read the word 'misused', not abused.

Quote:
Bear in mind that "abuse" can mean that the product is being taken for sleep rather that in accordance with its product licence, which is rather silly since the same product is available as a hypnotic but with a picture of the moon on the pack.


The link reads 'misuse'. Are you dyslexic?

This is from your link -->
Quote:
...most commonly misused OTC medications.


Misuse means to use the product incorrectly. Did you know that?

I know more about OTC medications than you ever will LOL

"NEXT!"....


Now you've reached total and utter desperation.

Quote:
Definition

Abuse is defined as any thing that is harmful, injurious, or offensive. Abuse also includes excessive and wrongful misuse of anything.


http://www.answers.com/abuse

Wrong again, pal.

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#939619 - 10/05/09 09:43 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: nephro]
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Originally Posted By: _99
LOL no it's you who is wrong again. Your accusations are getting thinner and thinner. Do you never get tired of posting wrong information?


SAY WHAT?

There's one thing I think you are wrong about, though, Nephro, and that is that Mr. 99 was ever even IN the game. He's watching it on TV with a beer and some pickled pigs feet.
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#939647 - 10/05/09 10:48 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: brisbain]
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99 is trying, but he is just making an arse of himself.
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#939653 - 10/05/09 11:17 PM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Indeed.
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#939836 - 10/06/09 11:51 AM Re: Phenergan - how can this be prescription free? [Re: TAZLOVER]
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Originally Posted By: TAZLOVER
99 is trying


Very trying indeed.

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