Most of us know them - blue pills, scored on one side, "Roche 10" on the other. The imprint is impeccable. But what if their origin is Pakistan or other questionable countries?

I am asking whether or not you can trust the Roche 10 imprint. I have some Pakistani 10 mg diazepam, and they are weak, but not without effect. This may be due to tolerance, but could it be posssible that someone got a hold of a presser, got some bulk powder and made dilluted pills?

My pills are very light blue - and I think i have seen darker ones. Signs that the pills are not up to the same production method. Or simply that one batch used more colour than the other. But wouldn't that be the same if the pills are made at big, reputable pharm companies?

What do you think?

The ones from Todo in South America were baby blue and seemed weaker.The Indian ones from Nicolas Piramal are okay and are often a white color. Personally I prefer the ones from within the EU but I liked the Karachi Pakistani ones.
On a side note if someone is taking 3 Xanax bars (6mg) per day it's unlikely you will feel anything from any valium
but they should curb your withdrawals.

I have to agree, I just think its the way they are. I get mine from a very reliable source and doubt he would sell me a substandard product. With that being said, I agree with the above statement about taking xanax compared to valium. IMO valium is one of the weakest benzos out there. I can definately tell a difference between the Roch 10s and Terapia 10s. The Terapia are much stronger IMO.

i love mine, exact same as the roche us v cut ones, i checked roche has a lab in europe where these come from same imprint and all , just no v cut, i like them the same, and in my opinion the v cut seems like you get less pill lol

I AGREE 100 % the 100 ct i just recieved from destiny from pakistan are deffinatelly weeeak!

china made copy of roche 10 in strip but tablets is look like very lighter then real and no effect its look green not blue realy
keep away from them

The Roche 10 I have are from Pakistan, but they are very light blue, not like the darker blue ones you see on Wholesale's site (though I think those pictures are extra saturated to make them look really shiny). They do not look green, though.

I got them from a trusted email source, but they did come free as samples from the pharm company (I got them as a kind of discount for buying other stuff). That's what he told me, anyway.

All his other stuff was great.

i loved mine, but im not hard to please

So why do you sell Chinese fakes, Shaz?

If its worth anything at all I've tried Valium 10mg that were not blue but a sea green color. They sucked and these actually came from Walgreens after my surgery for muscle relaxation/sleep. I've yet to try the real thing; the Valium with the V cut out of it. They just look F-ing cool man.

Bruin7

i did mistake but not anymore
every one do in there life
sorry

It is easier than counterfeiting dollars or euro's, no doubt. Albeit, the same result.

The blue 10mg Roche valium I've seen that come in blisters are quite dark. They aren't a baby blue or even close.

I guess it would depend on what country is making it, what pharmacy, if it's a generic that someone is trying to pass off as a Roche, etc. Of course, I've seen yellow ones, orange, etc. from US pharmacies so some of these lighter colored blue ones could simply be that country's version of a generic.

JMHO - the ones I've had that are dark blue that say Roche 10 mg are strong, relieve my stress quickly and help me sleep without spasms running all my body. Actually, I can't even call them spasms as much as a body jerking sensation, which seems like my body is trying to respond to something my brain told it to do and can't quite seem to get it.

But then, I prefer the 1mg Xanax that is blue, and not the purple ones that many others like. I find the blue to be stronger on me, although they wear off too fast, which is why I prefer to take valium for the muscle spasms, anxiety and lack of sleep due to pain.

Lynx,

I take the generic 10 mgs that are the sea green color that Bruin says he takes. They are a bit weaker. I started taking them for anxiety from my CP. They do help with muscle spasms but I also get those jerking movements like you. Do you have any idea what causes that? I keep forgetting to ask my DR.

No Khilee, no one has ever told me what causes that jerking movement. It's almost like my body occasionally just has a mind of it's own. It's annoying and usually gets worse when I'm tired, hurting, haven't slept well, etc. I've always thought it's because of my nerve damage and the fact that my brain can't always get the signals right because of nerves that are pinched.

If you find out, or remember to ask your doctor, let me know. I've actually thrown a coffee pot across the room and broke it when I had a spasm/jerky movement one day and my husband just looked at me and said "are you mad about something?" and I said "I don't know what happened, I was taking it out of the dishwasher and my arm just threw it across the room." I've thrown spice jars, etc. Usually the jerking is in the lower half of my body but occasionally it occurs all over and I never know when it's going to happen.