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#923142 - 08/29/09 12:21 AM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: musician7]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 1210
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Hi, Musician. I agree with you - having anyone just starting threads, disrupting the site - is NOT OK. BUT, let us not be "elitist", ya know? There are plenty of folks who have much to offer who are new. I believe the " Notify" button is useful and sufficient. Too many Rules and you end up with a site that only works for "old timers". We can all benefit from what new people have to say. Yes, the climate has changed (in more ways than one, lol) Maybe a warning? Don't request a ban or anything, but just a "watch" thing? Would that work? "you are beauty and elegance". Song is swimming thru my head. Anyway, if someone is "over posting", than there are tools to deal with it. Right? OK, I'm falling asleep again. Could it be that I stay up too late? And get up too early? I could be naive - wouldn't be the first time. If someone could tell me why " Notify" wouldn't work, please tell me.
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#923550 - 08/29/09 11:19 PM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: PNWRain]
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Registered: 10/13/05
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Loc: In your dreams
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OT warning! Hey PRNRain - glad/good to see you again! Trust me, car repair bills & medical bills are something I can relate to right now! Won't go into specifics, but if you get a chance, check out my thread in the "family, friends, etc" thread. I'd Pm you, but I'm just relearning how to type, & it is just to exhausting to do to much of it right now.
Other than that, I sincerely hope everything else in your life is going as well as it can be!
Hey PRN -check your PM's, just sent you some personal info about my 'wonderful' summer, so far! Lucky me, I have my next round of injections this Tues., the 1st!
Edited by secondstar (08/29/09 11:35 PM) Edit Reason: spelling, what else?!!? also added text
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#935874 - 09/28/09 04:16 AM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: Tiades]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 1210
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Tiades & Taz - I'm not an insomniac, but I crept into bed at about 8:00, got next to the living, breathing heater (otherwise known as my husband) and fell asleep. Didn't make the coffee, didn't turn the lights off. LOL. Now I'm up. Made the coffee, cleaned up the kitchen, turned off the lights.
I am always so cold. And it it's not like an external cold. I go to the grocery store and it's awful. Freeze. Yes, I lost alot of weight, but my weight is OK for my height. 5' 1" and 115 lbs. I was 157 lbs. Why am I so cold? I did not try to lose this weight, but here I am. It just melted off. My GF say "beatch". LOL. But in truth, it is worrisome. Have had CAT scans and the gamut and the cancer has not returned, but I still worry - cause I'm a worrier.
Sorry. I know this is OT. Just that I am concerned. I apologize.
Admin - please do not count this.
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#935918 - 09/28/09 10:15 AM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: secondstar]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 2152
Loc: Going on the hippie bus to DC
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What about putting limits on the # of new threads a newbie can start? Example: Maybe 2 their first month of registered membership, then add to it, for say six months?
Newbies have limits on PM privileges (or do they anymore? I've been away for a couple of months, almost!), & personally I think their ability to start new threads should also be limited, for all the reasons already stated. But as others have pointed out, we might also risk not getting important information, feedback, etc. if newbies can't start new threads. + I'd be afraid of them responding inappropriately in other threads already opened.
You also might think about starting this thread in the "suggestions" thread/area, and or maybe starting a thread in the "polls" area too-
Great topic & I hope the Admin sees this & considers our ideas! Secondstar, that is a good idea. This is why I started this thread. For ideas. The mods and admin have their hands full already and don't need such things as people coming on the first day and first post, "Where can I get some Oxy's" for example. Isn't that why there is a waiting period before they can get on is for reading and getting to know the board and threads? Good idea Taz
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#935919 - 09/28/09 10:16 AM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: PNWRain]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 2152
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Taz, points all well taken. Do I irritate you? Gosh I would truly hate that. I suspect I can be irritating, lol. Never mean to be.
Yes, new persons whose sole purpose is to procure drugs - well, I don't like it either. Just don't know how to stop it. I'm up for a solution, though. Maybe just ignore it? It is usually pretty obvious. Not always, but usually.
Anyway, if I am being annoying, please tell me. I'll do my best to NOT be that way. Good Monday morning! RAIN, you pain in my butt? Yes. But I still love ya, Taz
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#941753 - 10/09/09 10:51 PM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: musician7]
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Between here and Eternity
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I might be somewhat out of line, replying in this thread as I have only been a member for less than a month. But there are a couple of things I just feel compelled to mention, and please know that I mean absolutely no disrespect or offense or anything of the sort to anyone else.
At the time I ran across DB, I had been frantically searching the Internet for somewhere that I could purchase a particular med that I had been legally prescribed for years by my doctor (psychiatrist). A month prior to my frantic search, it never would have even crossed my mind to be looking for such a place online, and if asked, I would have vehemently swore that I would never consider doing such a thing. Espeically since after much trial & error, a medication had finally been settled upon that worked for me in my particular situation. Once it had been established what worked for me, even though I had changed doctors a few times since, there was never a question of changing what worked, and of course IMO, getting a script from my own Dr. would be the only way I would consider going about acquiring my medication. But, I was in for a nasty surprise when I moved 2000 miles away - back to the town where I had grown up. I no longer knew anyone here (except my Dad who has Alzheimer's), my old GP had passed away some time ago, I had not needed a psychiatrist back when I lived here before, and when I tried to find one, I was alarmed to find that of all of them, either they were not accepting new patients, or the ones who were, did not accept my insurance. Out of desperation, I finally made an appointment that I can't afford with the one who could get me in the soonest - that being near the end of November 2009. At which point the panic set in. I was at the end of my last refil, basically all alone, and knew from past experience that if I didn't find some way to stay on my medication long before the end of November, I would surely end up in a mental hospital, as well as lose my rights to my money as well as my life in general - it had happened before. Hence, my Internet search began in earnest. It only led to more frustration.. either the sites sounded "too good to be true", usually with no way to contact them for information without getting replies in the form of 'auto-replies" that were generic, never addressing my particular questions. Often they stated they were not pharmacies, but wanted a "membership fee" to get acdess to their pharmacies and refused to answer any basic quetions prior to purchasing a membership. With no extra funds to experiment with, I couldn't take a chance on those. The ones I came across - mainly in Google searches - that seemed to be genuine pharmacies that you could order products directly from them seemed to have a very limited selection - mainly Viagra and the like - not at all what I was needing. (I'm sorry, I know I tend to be too wordy in everything I write - I'll try to get to the point now).
When I ran across DB during on of those searches I had alrady about lost faith in, my mental state was not good. to put it nicely. But after glancing over the site, I did get the feeling that this was more than just a scam, of the few posts I read, I got the feeling that this was a different kind of environment, and a concept I'd nearly forgotten existed. People here seemed to be actually exchanging experiences and information.. and I sensed a feeling of genuine good will and caring that I had not found anywhere else - on or offline if quite a while. It took the last bit of .... whatever I could muster up to join this site, and put my last shred of hope in the hands of the people who were already members.
And yes, I started a new thread as soon as I had registered, detailing the problem I had encountered in trying to transision to a new doctor in a location that was once familiar to me, but had changed so much over the years and basically asked if anyone had any suggestions. At that point, I simply did not have it in me to be reading all the available information contained throughout the site. When I checked on my post the following day, I was both surprised and pleased that there had ben several resposes. And here, in particular, I sincerely hope that none of you who had very generously taken the time to address my concern will take this next sentence wrong, as I know that all comments were made with only the tbst oof intentions. However, unfortunately, I found no information to speak of contained in the replies that I thought I could use in order to solve my immediate problem.
But, what I did find, was an outpouring of understanding, caring, and what seemed like genuine concern for my well being. I suddenly felt less alone than I had prior to having made the post, and I was able from thete to draw on the strength that I felt from those who had replied and use it to explore the rest of the Site and discovered much of the information that was readily available on this site, learn how to use it in a constructive way, and espeically I learned about the value of reading through the various threads pertaining to what I was looking for myself. And in a few days, I was able to make a fairly educated decision as to what place I would place an order from - based of course on he feedback I was seeing from others. Of course, I made several more posts of my own along the way.. mostly wanting to clarify something or other.
Anyway, with many thanks and much gratitude to the wonderful people of DrugBuyers,com, as of yesterday, I sucessfully received an order of the exact medicine which I had so desperatley needed... and just in time! I am already feeling 100% like myself again now.
I guess the point to all of this is that when I made that first post, I was less than a "newbee", I was a mere "stranger". And I honestly can't say just where I might be today - physical location, mental state or both had I not been allowed to make that initial contact [post] that got me the support that turned out to be so necessary in my ability to keep on going until I accomplished what I needed to in order to carry on.
I will never be able to thank you enough, but I do hope that those who wish to prevent people from posting or starteing threads because they are new might think a little harder on that before making it a permanent restriction, as all peole are different, with different needs, and spammers will be spammers - be they new or old, and hopefully they will not ever have the power to prevent people with a legitamate need for help from being able to receive it.
On another note, even being as new as I still am, it did not take me long at all to notice, as well as be annoyed by certain posts that either contribue nothing to the converstaion and/or repeatedly omment in everythread the same irritating and obvious solicitations to email themn for a "list" of every medication available and they will ship it asap, or the ones interupting a discussion of a particular IOP (for examle) to plug whatever pharmacy they are there to represent... "Shills" I had not known that particular word before, but have been aware of the concept for a long time.
I hope my posts have not come acoss in any sort of off-putting ways such as that. I think my main annoying habit is the fact that I am way too wordy in everything I write. I've been working on this for years, but have yet to be able to correct it.
Well, anyway, I believe I've made my point in regards to this.....
If you have made it this far, I thank you for reading.
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#942173 - 10/11/09 12:44 AM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: TAZLOVER]
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 117
Loc: Between here and Eternity
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Taz, while my post was really long, it was very heartfelt and I'm glad to see that someone (you) actually read it. And yes, I did read through the whole thread - at first, just out of curiosity - and I did understand exactly what it was that was bothering you and others in regards to the many posts similar to your example: 'Where can I get Oxy fast', etc.. And frankly, those type of posts irritate me as well. As a matter of fact, I have pushed the " Notify" button on a few of them myself, only to get back an auto-response that Admin has already been notified about that post. (At least I knew it wasn't just me...). Anyway, While I may be new to this particular forum, I have participated in various forums/discussion boards over the years, and it seems that regardless of the subject of the forum, the same types of annoying and unwanted posts will show up - varying in content only in an attempt to fit the general subject of the particular forum they are using to spread their spam and other nonsense. It also quickly becomes easy for regular participants to recognize them as such... I'm sure that seeing a registration date that is the same as the offending post makes it all the more obvious. I did not take offense at all personally in anything I read in this thread, as like I say, I did understand the reason for it. It's just that I knew that I started a thread the same day as registering (with no intention of shilling, spamming, flaming or intentionally causing trouble in any other way), and that it had ultimately led me to a very positive result I'm not sure I would have been able to find had I not been allowed to make that initial contact with the caring people I did - given the frame of mind I was in at the time. My decision to make the post here that I did was mainly because while I can't speak for anyone else, it is my belief that my story is not unique, and that it's likely that more newly registered people than not have come here for the right reasons, and IMHO it seems more important to accomodate them than neglect them in the interest of punishing those who are here to cause trouble. I may be wrong, but I do feel that the troublemakers are in the minority - though it might not seem like it because they are the "squeaky wheels". Again, I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who has expressed similar opinions, and I neither have a better solution to offer, nor do I feel I'm in a position to be attempting to do so even if I did. I only meant to offer a different point of view. P.S. A bit OT, I know... but a few days ago, I took a peek in the "Sin Bin" and was somewhat shocked at how blatant some of those were... in particular, one who 'wanted to be a RX drug dealer' and was with the Mexican Mafia....... hmmmmmm.. good thing there is a speical place for those! lol
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#945508 - 10/17/09 10:17 PM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: jessecat]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 2152
Loc: Going on the hippie bus to DC
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What irritates me far more than newbies looking for help or high, are those 'Poobahs' that have become 'Poobahs' in a couple of months. I've been around here lurking since '02, and a member since '06, and haven't enough posts for full privilege. That job you speak of with the probationary period before receiving dental insurance.....Get one!
Most of us came to DB for help. Most of us were also a little more subtle in our questions than others, but we all had to start somewhere on this board. Not all first timers are scammers. Be patient with them. Availability of relief is not nearly as easy to find as it once was. DB has been very good to me over the years. Info used to be more freely shared. Researching sites has become much more difficult. People keep their sources close to the vest. It's almost reached trial and error. Throw enough sh*t at the wall......and you may eventually get relief. Remember why this site began, and don't be so paranoid, just be careful.
I also came to this site for help. Since then I have contributed to many people and try to help them. You act as if I made the Rules. If you have a problem with that, then you need to take it up with Admin, not me. It's evident that you have not read my post. Before you judge someone, you need to know them. My post is an open book. I don't deserve to take this craap off of you or anybody else. Also I will not take it. Taz
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#947151 - 10/21/09 07:43 AM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: secondstar]
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Registered: 09/17/09
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Loc: Between here and Eternity
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I have found that by posting and letting people get to know me that I found friends who showed me the way and told me which sites I could trust and also which ones to avoid. So posting is a good thing. I was even helped with my computer skills which are sadly lacking. musician7, that was a nice thing to read and I hope that in time I will be able to find the same. Thanks for the encouraging post... notamused, hope you are able to get the help you need here. Unfortunately, a lot of scams have been on this board, so members are a little more reserved than usual, especially after the RHA Act. So just post & let us get to know you & most members will respond to questions that are asked openly!! Hi, NotAmused - hey I AM the word queen, so we already have a connection. My fingers are out of sync here, so I won't be so wordy today. But I wanted to say - thank the heavens you got your meds. It should be not so difficult to obtain the meds you need. I welcome you. And hope you continue to contribute. And don't worry about post counts. Although there was high fives all around in my family for becoming a Pooh Bah. LOL. Wow! I love you guys!  Even though that part of musician7's post that I had quoted wasn't even meant for me, I was just somehow touched by it and spontaneously responded. Now I'm glad I did... although my sincere appologies to you TAZ, as it seems I inadvertently hijacked your thread and it appears to have gone way off topic. I am truly sorrry for that. But, I must say that I was totally surprised - but very pleasantly so, to have just come back here to find that my OT comment seemed to have gotten some unexpectedly warm and friendly responses! Secondstar and PNWRain, thanks for your support and caring that I did in fact get the meds I'd ordered. They were indeed a life-saver for me! But you are right PNW in that it that it never should have been such an ordeal to have gone through all that just to get a medication that I have been legally prescribed for years.... especially when I had a scheduled appointment with a doc in my current location.. it just was not to be until the end of November. Just as you and so many of the others I've seen on here who obviously also have legitimate reasons for being here.... or well, I use the word "legitimate" in this case loosly only in that it's just not right that the drug laws are so ... nit-pickey (for lack of a better word at the moment) that those who have medical histories that indicate a clear need for certain meds even have to be put in the position of having to obtain what we are medically and legally entitled to in such a way! (and yes, I'm new but it is not so hard to notice the difference between people like you guys and those who are just looking to get high rather than seeking relief from a medical condition, or are here to promote other sites for their own selfish reasons... and the ones who just seem to post stuff for the sole purpose of being annoying  ) I'm not sure if that all came out quite right, but I hope you know what I was trying to say.... and I would like very much to continue to post here, whether or not I will be in need of placing any more orders for myself. I don't know what has gotten into so many people, but in all honesty, I have not found many people lately - either on or off line in quite a while prior to having found this board who even have a single pleasant thing to say what so ever! So, your kind words mean a whole lot to me. and as long as you can put up with my often long and rambling posts, I have no intention of losing contact now with those of you who seem to be a rare people now a days, and have taken the time to show me your kindness and compassion, even amongst all the scamming/spamming, etc... going on all around. And espeically for having given me the benefit of the doubt. I can't tell you how heartwarming this is! I'd better return this thread to TAZ now though, if possible - before I end up ruining a good thing! Love and Light to All! 
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#947295 - 10/21/09 01:53 PM
Re: What is your feedback on 1st timer starting new threads
[Re: TAZLOVER]
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Registered: 09/17/09
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Awwwwww.... you guys are too much! (I'm beginning to get embarassed... 4real, but meant in a good way). Taz, I will have to follow YOUR advice regarding ignoring some of the .. well... idiots. While it's not really in my nature to be rude or start trouble, I do have to admit that in last week or so, there have been a few times I went to a particular thread to either look for info or post something pertaining to that thread, only to see some totally irrelevant bit of spam stuck in there, At first I did ignore it, but on several of those, I quickly noticed that the person(s) had been going through all the forums, leaving a copy/paste of the same thing in each. Then I would get irritated and wind up leaving a sarcastic remark of my own under several of theirs... until they started to be deleted. So, then of course I would feel like a total idiot myself, realizing that the Mod or Admin who was doing the deleting also saw my childish remarks. But the next time I saw someone else doing the same thing, I'd find myself reacting to them the same way anyway! Why? I don't know, but there's nothing good about that kind of embarassment! I fully intend from here on out to follow your lead there Taz and ignore, ignore ignore! (Maybe Notify if someone hasn't beaten me to it.. lol) Oh, and this board certainly is addicting! I hadn't really given it a whole lot of thought, but I suppose I had figured that once I had found what I needed and felt better, I would probably lose interest.. but, the opposite seems to have happened. The majority of my posts have been made after I received my meds! As a matter of fact, yesterday morning, I got a call from the Doctor's office whth whom I had made the earliest appointment I could get - which was to be at the end of November, saying that there was a cancellation and they could get me in that day if I could come right away. Which I did, had a good visit and when I left the office (with script in hand for Klonopin), the first thing I thought about was that I couldn't wait to come home and tell you guys about it! (But I didn't get around to it partly because I wound up having to take care of some other things and also, I had no idea which thread I should post it in!) I still don't, and am fairly sure this one is not it... but since I seem to already have de-railed it... and hoping Admin doens't get too mad, there isn't a whole lot to tell, so I'll just make it very brief and get it out of my system if it's O.K. It's always nervewracking to go to a brand new, unknown doctor in the first place. But this guy was very nice. I ended up telling him about how I'd ordered clonazepam online from India, and he just kinda took that in stride (odd, for a doctor, IMO). He said he was surprised that it worked, as he had always assumed that they were all scams, but said he was glad that I had been able to find a way to take care of what I needed to take care of. Then, he asked if I was worried about having Feds showing up on my doorstep. I said, not really and he quite seriously said that they probably wouldn't, but just in case not to hesitiate to contact him and he would personally take responsibility for the fact that I did have an appointment and it was the fault of his office that I was not able to be seen in a timely manner. I think it's highly unlikely that any of this would actually ever even come up... but still, it was a very nice gesture and totally out of charactor for a doctor... (I think). Seems that they would in general look down on this sort of thing. Anyway, that was all. Just had wanted to share that bit for anyone who happened to want to read it. Also to say that just because I was finally able to get a regular script, I"m no less grateful for the help I received here, as I honestly don't know what would have happened between when I received the meds and when I saw the doc 13 days later. I'm convinced that my successful order saved me from slipping back into the horrible place that was looming closer and closer. Admin... I do realize that this has been totally off topic, and am aware that I should not have let it happen. At this point though, I can only hope you will believe me that I have NO intention of making a habit of doing this. Promise! Thanks again, my Friends!
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