Has anyone had problems with the milwaukee doctor?? I went and saw him a couple weeks ago and prescribed me the same I could have got from my local doc... Anyone else run into this. This is what they told me: We stand behind our docs and you cannot go into your local doc and tell him how to prescribe. Well I can at least call my local doc back and say this isn't working with them I can't get a hold of the doc and they won't let me talk to him.. All for $285.00 and a long trip! WTF! Any ideas how I should handle this?? BTW I have good records and have shown what I've been prescribed in the past. I'm a clean cut guy just need pain relief for my back problems.. This sucks!
Will that work, but I did see the doctor and he did prescribe something, but now I can't even talk to him?? So what would I tell the CC company?? I have nothing to hide, but I don't think I should have to pay all that money??
if u are not satisfied and paid w/ creidit card,just dispute the charge w/ your cc company.
That's pretty ridiculous.
You got the service you paid for and just because the professional opinion you got (the doctor) doesn't jive with your non-professional opinion does not entitle you to a refund.
The CC company will not give you a refund because you got the service you paid for.
Some people should use a little common sense when threating a chargeback.
Yeah see and that's why I'm not doing a charge back yet. but come on these doctors gotta know what there getting into wouldn't u think??? specially since I don't even have the doctors number now what if I had an emergancy and he needed to be reached. OH I'm not done with this yet...
Theres gonna be some problems and it's gonna be more then a charge back!!! I'm in the process of looking into somethings and looks like I'm a lot more protected then they are..
Yeah see and that's why I'm not doing a charge back yet. but come on these doctors gotta know what there getting into wouldn't u think??? specially since I don't even have the doctors number now what if I had an emergancy and he needed to be reached. OH I'm not done with this yet...
Theres gonna be some problems and it's gonna be more then a charge back!!! I'm in the process of looking into somethings and looks like I'm a lot more protected then they are..
I really don't know why you're soo cranky but I don't care.
If you don't like the results you got go back to your origional DR. or go and get your own MD shingle.
The only problem I see is your attitude about what the professional prescribed.
I would go to my origional Dr. but they don't prescribe enough hence why I went this route!! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out!!! There'd be no need for referal services if doctors did prescribe cuz we'd all just go to are local doctor. OH I'm sure you'd be cranky to if you were in my shoes... And we wonder why these companies don't stay a float for very long and get shut down...
I would go to my origional Dr. but they don't prescribe enough hence why I went this route!! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out!!! There'd be no need for referal services if doctors did prescribe cuz we'd all just go to are local doctor. OH I'm sure you'd be cranky to if you were in my shoes... And we wonder why these companies don't stay a float for very long and get shut down...
I can sympathize with your pain and your Doctor/relief scenario is very common.
By now you should realize that underprescribing is why most members are here but a chargeback is not going to happen in your situation and your threats only make you look foolish.
Even thou your prescribed meds are not up to your expectations, your only recourse is to find another provider.
Sorry, that's just the way it is in this country right now.
I never said I was gonna do a charge back if you read back someone else metioned that... I will be reporting them to the better business be. Because I'm sorry but they need to look into there doctors a little bit more. Isn't that why I forwarded my records to them first??? I mean come on!! Anyway it'll get taken care of don't you worry and I won't be doing a charge back!!
and another thing Old Hippie isn't this forum to inform people of experieces and such... I'd hate to see someone else waste there money if there not gonna get the care they need...
Please come back and let everyone know how it went with the Better Business Bureau. I doubt that the Bureau gets many customer complaints about patients unhappy with the type of pain medication their doctor prescribed for them. Or is your complaint going to be about the Internet web site that didn't refer you to an appropriately compassionate physician? Either way it will be interesting to hear from you how the Better Business Bureau responded to your complaints.
Well one thing is they won't give me the doctors number or let me talk to him, now how can a referal company control that??? They are not doing what they said.. They also sent out an email to all there customers telling them how there milwaukee visit was and to tell them what meds were prescribed so hmmmm something not right here... Like I said I have nothing to hide and I don't like getting scammed.. Now come on WE ALL know here on DB why people use Referal services for doctors it's not to find an under prescribing doctor??? Little common sense....
How did you got scammed. You had to of realized from reading these boards, it is up to the Doctor to prescribe. All your getting from these referal services is the name of a Doctor you go to and there is no guarantee you will get anything. Now I do think these doctors may or may not be clear as to why or what the purpose is, and that is why so many are bailing, but you were not scammed. You just are mad you did not get what you assumed you would get. Do I think it is wrong with what some of the F2F groups are doing, yes, from what I read however it is not up to them but the Doctor, it is their license
#920139 - 08/20/0905:51 PMRe: Problems with Eclinic
[Re: hickboy]
green82
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 139
Loc: Dallas
Wow sounds like a raw deal.I use eclinic for the Dr. in the Dallas area.He gave me his card with email and phone number.I'd raise hell over it,what kind of Dr. won't let you get in touch with them?
I tried Googling it, can't find it they didn't put his first name on the script.. I'm gonna keep trying to find him. I found the clinics number but nobody answered today so I dunno what to do.. Thanks for your help if anyone else has any ideas let me know. I was getting really frustrated I thought this board was to help people and all I get in the first couple posts is a bunch of people just ripping me to shreds I just don't get it aren't we all here to help eachother out I know most of us have been in the same boat. Instead of ripping eachother apart let's try to help eachother I think that'd make more sense cuz it's not getting any easier out there!! I know I should have taken his name off of the script but I was so upset on how the appointment went I just didn't... I was his last patient and was in with him for like 3 minutes at the most... he barley even looked at me or checked me out... It just sucks cuz that's a lot of money and now I won't have meds.. Thanks Chopper01 and Green82 apretiate you not just jumping down my throats like the previous posters!! I guess I'm just to trusting.... Like I said anymore ideas let me know cuz I'm so frustrated about this and am gonna do something just not sure what to do about it yet!! BTW I emailed them a couple times was really polite told them to take there time and see what they could do and they just snapped right back and said nope nothing we can do.....
I agree it's up to the doctor, but don't you think the referal services should discuss this stuff with the docs, come on most of us that are going to see these docs are OCS people and the referal services know that!!! There not gonna be in business for long because there not gonna have any patients.. I'm sorry I feel I got scammed! I could have gotten the same thing from my local doc!! That's why I chose to go this route! P.s did I mention I have really good records??
Hick if I had your experience I would also feel ripped off, people can say its up to the discression of each individual Doc but I say that B.S. The whole reason we are paying these outrageous OCS prices is because we are looking for compassion and the OCS companies know that and should be telling each new Doc they sign up exactly what to expect. For example If I had paid $300 for my F2F and walked out with a script for 800mg IBU I would be livid and wanting a refund from the OCS......The OCS' only exsist to refer patients to sympathetic Doctors, I dont need a referal to find a run of the mill Doctor to write me IBU and tell me to take it easy.
yeah see and that's what he was going to write the script for and I'll said Doc I got that at my house I don't need anymore of that... Thanks again Chopper I always liked your posts on the PPC thread.. It's to bad it's not that easy anymore....
I personally think that these F2F are noy being totally up front with the doctor, and yes if it is his license it is up to him. the F2F is basically telling you where to go, and it is then up to the doctor. doctors also have to follow the guidlines of their state. in the real sense, no you were not scammed, from the Doctor. it may not have been made clear to you what the F2F was offering, but as i have read and read, it is up to each doctor. i think t he F2F in some cases are taking advantaage and i do not think they are being clear with the doctors but also one cannot demand either. i do understand your feelings i really do, but your probably not going to be able to do a charge back as you did recieve the service. i really do not know what the answer may be
Thanks Sammtana!! Well hopefully this will be a warning to other people... It would be nice to be able to talk to the doctor though, hell I'd even drive up there. I even took my MRI photos and he didn't even look at them, now doesn't that say a little something??
I truly think these Doctors agree to do the service, i mean lets face it the pitance they get from even the insurance companies makes it hard. I then think they get into it and no i really do not think it is completely clear to them. i am guessing they are told it is up to them as they see fit and that is what they do. but i also think the only ones getting rich here are the groups. i think it is so unfair to pain patients as it is becomming harder and harder to get treatment. I really do understand, and did not mean to sound harsh after I re read my one response. But I also understand from a stance of a license involved how it can be. i just do not believe many and it is not all but when reading the boards and the threads it is getting easier to see what is going on. I think these referal groups need to offer something for that kind of fee but what it appears to be with some is a fee for a referal and then up to the Doctor. Okay this may be an off the wall suggestion but check your laws in your state, then look for an old timer in a small town, who does it all and loves his patients kwin, i am not kidding. i know i had one of them in the big city, he then passed away, and the new Doc was good but then we relocated, and well i am stuck in the land of the lost. lol anyway hope it all works out for you
I personally think that these f2f are noy being totally up front with the doctor, and yes if it is his license it is up to him. the f2f is basically telling you where to go, and it is then up to the doctor. doctors also have to follow the guidlines of their state. in the real sense, no you were not scammed, from the Doctor. it may not have been made clear to you what the f2f was offering, but as i have read and read, it is up to each doctor. i think t he f2f in some cases are taking advantaage and i do not think they are being clear with the doctors but also one cannot demand either. i do understand your feelings i really do, but your probably not going to be able to do a charge back as you did recieve the service. i really do not know what the answer may be
Sammmtana- You hit the nail on the head, these OCS' are not being upfront with the new Docs they sign up and they end up getting spooked and quiting. I think these OCS' know there days are numbered and are looking for volume instead of repeat business.
Thanks you guys, Yeah I was gonna go with a local guy from the get go but thought I'd have better luck with the referal company because you'd think they'd specialize in pain medication. Well I just hope this is a warning to others to be very careful and get the doctors name before you pay so you can do some kind of a check on him or her... I sure hope everyone finds the help they need because it's been damn tough lately for everyone!!
I certainly do not mean to insult or judge anyone here. I only have to wonder why anyone would go to a doctor to tell him or her what to do. Seems like that would be the job of the professional in question.
If a patient has a problem with the docs diagnosis and treatment, that patient can certainly go to another doc for a second opinion. That still is not illegal in this country. So far.
Like any professional in any field, you pay for expertise. This chargeback idea seems a bit like extortion to me. I strongly recommend that you rethink this matter, while as a fellow pain sufferer, I wish you all success in finding a solution to your problem.
Yes I agree with you but then I would have gone to my local doc... I'm not saying I tried to tell the doctor what to prescribe but I would expect more since most of the OCS's have moved to the face to face type of thing.. Had no problem with the OCS's prescribing... Thanks for your input though.. I think if you were in my shoes you'd be just as mad and would want something done... Unless you gotta lot of money to burn then maybe it wouldn't be a problem but I don't and I just don't wanna live with the pain, and I'm tired of getting taken advantage of... It will be taken care of trust me!!
And again let me remind you if you were in my position you'd be just as mad!!! Don't tell me you'd just turn and run and say OH WELL! We know what we expect out of these new companies. If the doctor is scared then he shouldn't be working with a referal service that is there for pain patients!! I've got a lot of resources in my line of work and it will be taken care of. Theres a lot of favors that people owe me and they will take care of it. Tell me this I should at least be able to talk to the doc about how my treatment is going agreed??
BTW: I'm giving them one more chance to be able to speak to the doctor, and if that doesn't work then I will start!
#920317 - 08/21/0905:33 AMRe: Problems with Eclinic
[Re: hickboy]
stevo1
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hickboy...The whole scenario $ux!! You most certainly should be able to Talk to the Doc!!!! Don't you have his Name on your Script? You know where you saw him....Go Back to his Office and Confront him! Just seems to me that these F2F referral are all about the Cash! ...Which does Not surprise me at all!....I would have hoped that they Really Cared about the Patient....But that doesn't seem to be the case! Good Luck Stevo
Edited by stevo1 (08/21/0905:38 AM)
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