Ive tried Bupe 0.2 x 2 and they seem to work, would these be any less damaging or difficult to get off while I work through the last stage of this problem.

I would say you're safer with using 0.2mg or 0.4mg buprenorphine than high Tramadol and co-codamol doses. It may well be easier to withdraw from as well, as people have reported success jumping off low buprenorphine doses, whereas withdrawing from Tramadol almost always seems to pose difficulties.

If people are taking >8mg buprenorphine in the form of Suboxone/Subutex per day for quite long periods, Temgesic doses shouldn't harm your body much at all. And being sublingual, they can be tapered easily.

couple of things:

1. seizures are an adverse effect of Tramadol, but they are not serotonergic in origin. they have a totally different cause/treatment

2. serotonin is one of teh neurotransmitters that is responsible for regulating movement: too much serotonin can lead to too much movement. a common finding in someone with serotonin syndrome is tremor/thumping in legs more so than arms, increased muscle tone/rigidity.

3. serotonin is one of the neurotransmitters that controls behavior. too much serotonin, too much....of you. patients are "hypomanic', meaning that they are a bit too loud, move to fast, a bit uncontrollable, etc, etc.

4. symptoms of serotonin syndrome arise within 24 or less (usually much less, like 6 hours) of starting a new medication.

the reality is that many people respond to these medications differently, so anyone who has any concerns should see their doctor or go to an ER.

and, just for nephro--no demerol!!

hope this helps,

chemsynth

Grünenthal, which still owns the patent to Tramadol, has cross-licensed the agent to pharmaceutical companies internationally. Thus, Tramadol is marketed under many trade names around the world, including:

Acugesic (in Malaysia and Singapore)
Adolonta (in Spain)
Algifeno (in Bolivia)
Anadol (in Bangladesh and Thailand)
Boldol (in Bosnia and Herzegovina)
Calmador (in Argentina)
Campex (in Pakistan)
Contramal (in India, Italy, and Turkey)
Crispin
Dolcet (in the Philippines)
Dolol (in Denmark)
Dolzam (in Belgium and Luxembourg)
Dromadol (in the United Kingdom)
Exopen (in South Korea)
Ixprim (in France and Ireland)
Lumidol (in Bosnia and Herzegowina and Croatia)
Mabron (in Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Estonia, Iraq, Jordan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Oman, Romania, Singapore, Slovakia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Yemen)
Mandolgin (in Denmark)
Mandolgine
Mosepan
Matrix (combined with paracetamol) (in Honduras and Guatemala)
Nobligan (in Argentina, Denmark, Iceland, Mexico, Norway, Portugal, and Sweden)
Osteodol (in India)
Poltram (in Poland)
Ralivia (in Canada)
Ryzolt (in the United States)
Sintradon (in Serbia)
Siverol (in the Philippines)
Tandol (in South Korea)
Tiparol (in Sweden)
Tonoflex (in Pakistan)
Toplagic
Tradol (in Bangladesh, Ireland, Mexico, Singapore, and Venezuela)
Tradolan (in Austria, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Romania, and Sweden)
Tradonal (in Belgium, Indonesia, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, the Philippines, Spain, and Switzerland)
Tralgit (in the Czech Republic, Georgia, Romania, and Slovakia)
Tralodie (in Italy)
Tramacet (combined with paracetamol) (in Canada and Costa Rica)
Tramacip (in India)
Tramadex (in Israel)
Tramadin (in Finland)
Tramadol (in Chile and Romania)
Tramadol Stada (in Sweden)
Tramadolor (in Austria, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, and Romania)
Tramagetic (in Norway)
Tramagit (in Romania)
Tramahexal (in Australia)
Tramake (in the United Kingdom)
Trama-Klosidol (in Argentina)
Tramal (in the Netherlands, Finland, Croatia, Slovenia, Brazil, Chile, Romania, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, and Switzerland)
Tramalgic (in Hungary)
Tramal Gotas (in Ecuador)
Tramazac (in India, Myanmar, and Sri Lanka)
Tramed
Tramedo (in Australia)
Tramoda (in Thailand)
Tramundal (in Austria)
Tridol (in South Korea)
Tridural (in Canada)
Trodon (in Serbia)
Ultracet (combined with paracetamol)
Ultradol
Ultram and Ultram ER (in the United States)
Ultramed (combined with paracetamol) (in India)
Veldrol (in Mexico)
Zafin (combined with paracetamol) (in Chile)
Zaldiar (combined with paracetamol) (in Spain, Croatia, Poland, Russia, and Chile)
Zaledor (combined with paracetamol) (in Chile)
Zamadol (in the United Kingdom)
Zamudol (in France)
Zodol (in Chile, Ecuador, and Peru)
Zydol (in the United Kingdom, Ireland and Australia)
Zytram (in Canada, Iceland, New Zealand, and Spain)
Zytrim (in Spain)

I also don't like that fact thatyou cannot find this most importent topic.
Aso I need thsi qestion answered emediately.

Question: can a state black ball you for using Hyrocodone. I tried to get it from my Dr. and he said that his hospital does not issue that med on a monthly basis. So I am still stuck with Tramadol?