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#916436 - 08/10/09 01:10 AM Codeine vs hydro
a7xjoshr Enthusiast Registered: 06/25/09 Posts: 206 Loc: Bat Country	ok i have recently aquired a couple codeins. this is what they are: Generic Name: Codeine, Acetaminophen Strength: 30 mg, 300 mg Manufacturer: Teva Pharmaceuticals Trade Name: N/A Type: Analgesic Class: RX, CIII Size (mm): 10 X 4 Comment: Imprint 93150 3 thats whats on the pill 93 150 /3 on other side i know this has been asked a million times but whats the difference between these and a 10mg hydro? Edited by a7xjoshr (08/10/09 01:14 AM) _________________________ “He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.” Samuel Johnson
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#916472 - 08/10/09 05:47 AM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: a7xjoshr]
madkw Enthusiast Registered: 05/27/08 Posts: 222 Loc: some were in the sky	hi hydro 10mg is = more than 60 mg codain or 1mg hydro = 10 codain , more or lesss i think
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#916474 - 08/10/09 06:22 AM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: madkw]
a7xjoshr Enthusiast Registered: 06/25/09 Posts: 206 Loc: Bat Country	oh ok yeah cus i took 2 and they dont even give me the reliefe of a 7.f hydro, like not even half, actually i dont think codeien doesn anything for me thats wierd? i think i no the reason tho, if ur taking a certain med it can block the codiend from working i think thats my case, idk _________________________ “He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.” Samuel Johnson
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#916584 - 08/10/09 02:03 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: a7xjoshr]
PoPo GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/20/04 Posts: 1707	I find that Codeine is nowhere as effective as Hydro. For some reason, I don't handle Codeine very well. It nauseates me and causes much worse constipation than any other pain med I've had. Waste of time, in my book. Of course if it's all I have, I will take them. A little relief is better than none, side effects and all. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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#916602 - 08/10/09 02:41 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: a7xjoshr]
nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 9710 Loc: NOT 40!	Originally Posted By: a7xjoshr oh ok yeah cus i took 2 and they dont even give me the reliefe of a 7.f hydro, like not even half, actually i dont think codeien doesn anything for me thats wierd? i think i no the reason tho, if ur taking a certain med it can block the codiend from working i think thats my case, idk 7.5mg hydrocodone is approx equal to 50mg codeine. But remember that a proportion of Caucasians lack the enzyme required to metabolise codeine into morphine, so for those patients, codeine is less effective or doesn't work at all. If you're desperate, taking 3 pills would keep you under the APAP limit, but you aren't really supposed to take more than 60mg codeine at once. It's up to you, of course; 90mg may provide additional analgesia but you'll also get additional side-effects, and I wouldn't do this 4 times a day. The daily recommended limit of codeine is around 240mg.
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#941929 - 10/10/09 12:55 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: nephro]
Tall Old Hand Registered: 04/23/09 Posts: 480 Loc: Out west	Sorry to bring this old thread up, but, Nephro, "what enzyme do Caucasions lack"? _________________________ Beware of PAKISTAN!
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#941932 - 10/10/09 12:59 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: Tall]
wofer Threadhead Registered: 07/11/08 Posts: 804 Loc: Between a Rock and a Hardplace...	Originally Posted By: Tall Sorry to bring this old thread up, but, Nephro, "what enzyme do Caucasions lack"? Oh so many replies to this question but so little time.. LOL. _________________________ A fool is a 27 story window-washer who steps back to admire his work.
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#941984 - 10/10/09 03:07 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: wofer]
BassNbeatz Enthusiast Registered: 08/01/09 Posts: 229	The liver enzyme that a proportion of caucasians lack is CYP2D6. Note, not all caucasians lack this enzyme & its not just white people that lack the enzyme. Codeine prodrug and is a CYP2D6 substrate meaning CYP2D6 is necessary in the conversion of codeine to morphine. Edited by BassNbeatz (10/10/09 03:08 PM)
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#946131 - 10/19/09 09:40 AM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: BassNbeatz]
OnlyZ Newbie Registered: 05/02/08 Posts: 42	The hydrocodone is a much stronger painkiller.
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#946857 - 10/20/09 06:43 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: OnlyZ]
artlover Journeyman Registered: 12/04/08 Posts: 52	Hydrocodone is stronger, in the ration mentioned above, but I find that combinations of codeine with other drugs are much more effective for my migraines than hydrodcodone/apap. Due to my migraines, I have an ongoing prescription to fiorinal, which is basically codeine/bulbital/acetomenophen/caffeine, and due to severe pinched nerves in my back I have prescriptions for hydrocodone/apap (vicodin.) At the same efficacy levels of the codeine and the hydrocodone in those drugs, the vicodin is more effective on the back pain and the codeine is more effective in the migraines. fwiw
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#951483 - 10/29/09 05:28 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: artlover]
mateoh Newbie Registered: 11/12/08 Posts: 31 Loc: south, USA	I agree. Codeine only helps me when used in conjunction with something stronger to potentiate it. Is there anything online I can read regarding this enzyme ? _________________________ everyone's favorite transsexual.
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#951491 - 10/29/09 05:38 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: mateoh]
OnlyZ Newbie Registered: 05/02/08 Posts: 42	I've found codeine to be useless for anything more than a minor headache. I'm glad it works for your migraines though.
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#957882 - 11/08/09 01:51 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: OnlyZ]
artlover Journeyman Registered: 12/04/08 Posts: 52	Originally Posted By: OnlyZ I've found codeine to be useless for anything more than a minor headache. I'm glad it works for your migraines though. I think it is the combination of the codeine plus the sedative and caffeine in Fiorinal that makes it more effective for my migraines than just 10/325 hydrocodone. I will say that neither gives me such a buzz or high that I can really understand recreational use - I get more of a "high" from three cups of coffee than either. Saying that, though, I knew a woman once that was always trying to get me to give her Fiorinals from my script and stole them from her husband's script - she was truly hooked. Which I just don't understand.
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#957900 - 11/08/09 02:17 PM Re: Codeine vs hydro [Re: artlover]
TAZLOVER GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 02/07/09 Posts: 2166 Loc: Going on the hippie bus to DC	Originally Posted By: artlover Hydrocodone is stronger, in the ration mentioned above, but I find that combinations of codeine with other drugs are much more effective for my migraines than hydrodcodone/apap. Due to my migraines, I have an ongoing prescription to fiorinal, which is basically codeine/bulbital/acetomenophen/caffeine, and due to severe pinched nerves in my back I have prescriptions for hydrocodone/apap (vicodin.) At the same efficacy levels of the codeine and the hydrocodone in those drugs, the vicodin is more effective on the back pain and the codeine is more effective in the migraines. fwiw I agree. Codeine is a good thing to use for between your hydro doses. With having the back pain, the hydro's do not last until the next dose. Ia good codeine substitute in between should help until you take your next dose. _________________________ I SMELL THEM, THEIR EVERYWHERE
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