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#916058 - 08/08/09 06:28 PM Re: Oxycodone **** [Re: thistime]
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All I can say is that the grass can be indeed green again on the other side. Don't count yourself out. I know you don't know what to expect, but just trust and know that things can be "normal" and alright again without the daily use of these drugs (when there isn't a medical need, I mean). Sometimes it takes a while, but if you throw yourself into it, and surround yourself with like-minded individuals (meaning don't be hanging with people who are still using) you have a chance. And just put one foot in front of the other, and it'll come. I've been there. Right where you are. I've been in that moment of severe anxiety, where you don't know where the next use is coming from and time is ticking away. And now, seriously, its hard to imagine life was ever like that for me. And yet, its always right there under the surface. Its okay. It can work out.

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#916063 - 08/08/09 06:48 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Melody]
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thank you everyone for the support & i will put everythingyou's all said into consideration & i know i can conquer this terrible affiction. The Untreated depression brought me to that point of feeling hopeless & at the time i was weak & set myself on the path of destruction. Ill definately keep you updated on my progess to a clean life. I can only hope many other people that suffur the same addiction whether its oxycodone or whatever can get better. For the people that need & deserve treatment with this drug, i hope you can live a better quality life with the aide of this medication.

Have a great weekend everyone!!!

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#916065 - 08/08/09 06:50 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: CaptainNodCDN]
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Oxy is hard to kick, Good Luck!
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#916066 - 08/08/09 06:54 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: dmg]
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YEP - listen to dmg , you"ve got a whole lot of life changes to make my friend and i mean A LOT of changes if you are to succeed. The hardest thing for me to do was up sticks and leave my g/f who still was using . I see her every so often and my heart goes out to her,but she wasn"t ready to stop using , still is"nt but i know if i go back there i will be back on that slippery slope . My confidence is back and i hope by the words and time these kind people are offering you Captain you again will be part of the real world, really, you probably have so much to offer and are a good person so come on ONLY YOU can do this , will be willing to offer any advice my friend.
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#916123 - 08/08/09 10:43 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: CaptainNodCDN]
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Originally Posted By: CaptainNodCDN
thx you for your opinion on the subject & everyone has the right to express their opinion. whether its bashing me or felling sympathy or whatever. i know the desisions in my life are wrong, but i cant change what i did to myself and your right it would be selfish to remove it from the market because of the few that abuse it like me. all yourt opinions are correct and just. i didnt meen to offend any of you or insult you. but i just wanted to express my opinion on the subject, just as you can express your opinion. i am trying to quit & its wrong for me to do the drug in the first place. people like me ruin it for the persons that really need it. i know because of it i deserve to be in prison. yet thank you for your opinion, even though some of you may be harsh with me.
your right dont blame the gun, but the blame the person that uses the gun. i apologize to those who struggle with their pain for offending them. i didnt mean anything negative by telling my story. i hope those who have pain & use oxycodone to cope with the pain are at ease because of this medication. Im in the wrong & i know that, but im trying, god am i trying. I just wanted to tell my story in hopes to help people who dont need it to never abuse any drug to escape from reality because of their personnal problem.

Thank you everyone for your opinion & support(those who feel sympathy for me). I really appreciate the support some of you's are expressing & it will help me on my path to recovery.


no one ever said you deserved to be in prison... but dear god man, take control. do a taper and stay away from any drugs that you do not need. if you can't handle that then get yourself some help. but to outright say a medication that has helped countless people regain their lives back should be banned just because you and your friends abused it is ridiculous. so again, get to work on your issues and move forward... it really isnt that hard with a bit of willpower.

good luck to you.
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#916173 - 08/09/09 03:26 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: funkybreakz]
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Where I live no pharmacy even carries oxy's anymore....everynight on the news someone is always robbing walgreens and every other 24hr one. My dr's pharmacy even says they dont carry it, they've been breaking into people;s homes....following them from the pharmacy's, checking trash cans for labels on pill bottles. No dr will precribe oxy's anymore. They have even killed innocent people in their homes. Just walk right in and poof you are a gonner. They even follow the delivery guys (pharmacy) Just the other day, someone broke in popped to eldery couples just for the meds. And I live in what used to be a safe city. What sucks is the only people who get it is cancer pt's. Wont even give out hydro's anymore. Most of us have real pain and not to get a high..so we have to suffer and Im sure its gonna even get worse.
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#916259 - 08/09/09 01:55 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: GoogleRose]
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googlerose im sorry to hear about the crime thats happening in your town. i sincerly apologize to people that have been robbed or attacked my drug addicts that are hurting your community, just for a 'fix'. Its people like that( ME ) that ruin it for the people that truely need it for pain management. Even though i would never commit any violent or criminal action to get my 'fix'. Still im just as guilty as those who commit the crime. Were not apart of the solution, were apart of the problem. The abuse of this drug has created an epidemic that needs to handled. example more drug rehabilitation programmes for this drug specificly. Perhaps im wrong & the government in your region is trying their best to curtail this crime spree. but where i come from (Gatineau, Ottawa) Their is no detox that specializes in oxycontin abusers & crime for this drug over here too is out of control. Like i said im not apart of the solution im apart of the problem. I truely wish that the criminals that have scarred your community are brought to justice. Also id like to withdraw my previous statement of '' i wish perdue pharma would stop production of these pills''it was wrong for me to say that & i apologize. People that truely need this medication for their pain management deserve treatment & if this medication has made their life quality better im all for it. I hope this epidemic of abusing oxycodone will decrease through time & i hope no further persons will be harmed from addicts that are just looking for a 'fix'. Within the month i will be going to rehab far from here & i dont plan to come back here until this communities epidemic has decreased. Because if i come back im affraid i will fall back into the hole in dug myself into.

I sincerly hope that no further individuals will be harmed, because of a drug of any kind.


Wish you all good health & a good weekend...

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#916322 - 08/09/09 05:15 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Amberray]
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Originally Posted By: martind
The old standby "opiate brain deficiency" theory.
Good luck with selling that one to a doctor as a symptom to get narcotics prescribed.


Martin, what do you mean by that "opiate brain deficiency theory"? HAHA that is a new one.


There are those who are convinced that they were born with or have developed endorphin deficiency syndrome (EDS) which manifests itself by somehow causing a lack of endorphin production in the brain and requires medical treatment with opiates in order for the person to feel "normal." A handy dx for narcotics if I ever heard one.
There are natural ways to increase endorphin production (orgasm, excercise, meditation, hitting your finger with a hammer). However, research on the general use of opiates to successfully treat this endogenous condition has not been accepted in medical circles.
There are emerging possibilities using very low-dose buprenorphine or naltrexone for treatment resistant depression but they are very rare.
If you think about the overall theory, why wouldn't it also be true that you could have a similar neurotransmitter deficiency that required ethanol or nicotine to make you feel "normal?"
You can probably find proponents of that theory on bluelight or prohibitionkills.

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#916329 - 08/09/09 05:25 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: CaptainNodCDN]
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Hi Captian. I too once suffered from severe addiction due to the use of hydro and oxy. At my worst point I was sniffing 10 80mg's a day. A female at a weight of 135. I am happy that I am alive today, and while it was a rough road to go down, I survived it. It made me a smarter stronger person today.

Where I live, they have a state funded inpatient rehab, which I went into for about a month, then I was transferred outpatient. That program was 8 weeks. I do suffer from chronic pain, and that was what started me on the road to addiction.

About a month before I went inpatient, I started suboxone therapy, and it helped me greatly. Like I said, I was only on the medication for a month, but it was a lifesaver for withdrawals. I don't know how I would have gotten thru the flu like symptoms I was experiencing at the beginning.

Please get some help. You can not do this alone. Even if you do get off the drug sucessfully on your own, it will be very difficult to stay off of if you don't deal with whatever pain you are bearing. That pain is most likely what started you on a path of destruction to begin with. I will keep you in my thoughts. Please look into assistance programs, as well as suboxone therapy to help you in the meantime. There is alot of helpful information on the internet about suboxone, I hope you take the time to read up on it and make a decision on if it would be a right choice for you. There are alot of mixed feelings about suboxone on this board, but for me, it helped me get thru the toughest time in my life. It made me feel normal, stopped me from getting sick. Made it possible to go into rehab and suffer almost no withdrawals at all. Alot of people say that suboxone is harder to get off than hydro or oxy. For me, it was alot easier to go from 8 mg a day of sub to nothing than to go from 800 mg of oxy to nothing. As of now, I have been out of rehab for a little over a year. I take maintence suboxone, as well as 2 norco a day. I give my medication to someone I trust, and get it from them as needed. For me, not taking medication would be a bad decision. If I am not treating my pain in a legit way, I fear I might go looking for relief elsewhere. Surround yourself with people who don't use, and that you trust. I had to stop talking to all of the people I thought were my friends. It wasn't easy at first, but once you are sober you will realize that they aren't really friends, they are just people who are co-dependant.

Anyway, just look around for information, then decide what route is right for you. Make a plan, and stick with it. Just remember how hellish life is as a user, and that you never want to go back.

Good luck, and if you ever want to talk, or need advice on something, feel free to get in contact with me.
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#916567 - 08/10/09 01:38 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: martind]
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Originally Posted By: martind
Originally Posted By: Amberray
[quote=martind]The old standby "opiate brain deficiency" theory.
Good luck with selling that one to a doctor as a symptom to get narcotics prescribed.


Martin, what do you mean by that "opiate brain deficiency theory"? HAHA that is a new one.


There are those who are convinced that they were born with or have developed endorphin deficiency syndrome (EDS) which manifests itself by somehow causing a lack of endorphin production in the brain and requires medical treatment with opiates in order for the person to feel "normal." A handy dx for narcotics if I ever heard one.
There are natural ways to increase endorphin production (orgasm, excercise, meditation, hitting your finger with a hammer). However, research on the general use of opiates to successfully treat this endogenous condition has not been accepted in medical circles.
There are emerging possibilities using very low-dose buprenorphine or naltrexone for treatment resistant depression but they are very rare.
If you think about the overall theory, why wouldn't it also be true that you could have a similar neurotransmitter deficiency that required ethanol or nicotine to make you feel "normal?"



Thanks! That was interesting and a good read!! That would probably apply to those thinking that narcotics such as opiates are used to cure Depression. When that's the dumbest thing I have heard of. They don't realize that the euphoria is only temporary and in deed it actually kills those "feel good receptors-endorphins" and they end up a hell of a lot worse off! Ignorance or they just don't care I suppose. And you are right, people will say anything to get that Dx that supports their script need for narcs.
You can probably find proponents of that theory on bluelight or prohibitionkills.

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#916794 - 08/11/09 03:07 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Amberray]
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Cap Im sorry if that sounded harsh, it was NOT directed to you. Not one of us is perfect. Ive had my fare of issues because dr's we not treating my "legit" pain. Even thought my records shows all of my diagnosis regarding my pain issues. At least you are aware and want to get help! For that I commend you because there are many that dont want to or as you said dont have any detox programs to help you. In my city there are many detox programs they get their fix of methadone then still do herion......anyway my statement wasnt directed towards you.....I would do the quote thing but still havent figured out how to quote to a certain person. Good luck!!
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#918517 - 08/15/09 02:28 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Kimberly555]
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Your right kimberly555, i have to stay away from people that use in order to get clean. Even though i will have no 'friends' left, its mandatory in order for my success of completing detox & staying clean after. I can use all the support i can get from people (like you) in order for me to get clean. To live a happy & successful life. If you wish to get a hold of me, to talk about addiction & Ways to stay clean you can contact me at: CaptainNodCDN@live.com.

Thank you everyone for the support..
Have a good weekend Everyone.

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#918749 - 08/16/09 02:12 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: cuddles17981]
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has anyone had success ordering it online? what site?

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#918796 - 08/16/09 05:29 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: flyboy4444]
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Originally Posted By: flyboy4444
has anyone had success ordering it online? what site?


Off topic. Thread is to discuss the drug. Not where to get it.
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#920399 - 08/21/09 12:57 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: cuddles17981]
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how do I order percocet or oxycodone online without a prescription?

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#920407 - 08/21/09 01:20 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: monicadog]
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Originally Posted By: monicadog
how do I order percocet or oxycodone online without a prescription?


Surely you realize if this were even possible it would be ILLEGAL

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#920642 - 08/22/09 01:54 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Chopper01]
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not unless you want to lose half of your monthly income. IMO I cant imagine paying $500 plus and then run the risk of getting an LL and then get screwed anyways. Not worth it for me.
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#921001 - 08/23/09 12:48 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: monicadog]
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Originally Posted By: monicadog
how do I order percocet or oxycodone online without a prescription?


Read around the forum and you'll discover you don't!
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#922637 - 08/27/09 06:36 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: cuddles17981]
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I've been taking 10/325 Oxycodone for several years. I recently ran out a little early and only have some 10 mg Oxycontin. I've tried breaking them into several little pieces; however, it still seems to retain it's time release element. Any suggestions on making these oc's immediate release? Would completely crushing them into powder then swallowing them help?

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#922662 - 08/27/09 07:33 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Rebulx]
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Um, this kind of discussion is not allowed here. It can get you banned.
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#922683 - 08/27/09 08:39 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: genethebean1]
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sorry, how do i delete it? I'm not breaking the law or anything? They were prescribed. Turning er 10's into ir 10's, what wrong with that? Oh, I refuse to snort, just looking for another way, in a little pain here!

The sane dr that RX the 10 ER, XR the 10 IR that I take now. I'm not some drug addict looking to get high. The pill honey-moon stopped a long time ago for me.


Edited by Rebulx (08/27/09 08:42 PM)

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#922721 - 08/28/09 12:17 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Rebulx]
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You can PM admin and ask them to delete it. You're not breaking the law - just one of the Rules:

4. We will ban any user that posts about crushing, snorting, injecting meds not meant to be injected, or altering prescription drugs in any way. It is against the law in most countries and it is too close to discussion of recreational drug use which we do not allow or welcome at all. Do not even mention recreational drugs!

It seems pretty clear that you are not looking to misuse your medication - you're just trying to get relief. I just wanted to let you know so that you don't get in trouble with admin.
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#922727 - 08/28/09 12:37 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Melody]
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why is oxy not working and now opana is not helping...how can this be? Why me?...no insurance and these meds are so expensive and my doc is going to think that I am a doper..he has me on hydrocodone for breakthru pain and that works but not for very long....anyone else experience this??
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#922733 - 08/28/09 01:12 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: bernie131]
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Im not sure how long you've been on oxy's but from my personal experience if taken many years you build up a resistant to it and the dr has to change you to something else for a while until you can go back to oxy's and get the same results when you 1st started.....My dr calls it a (a drug holiday for a month). especially combined wtih another narc......I was on ms contin and percs...came to a point it was ineffective and I never too more than I was supposed to because I knew I would suffer at the end of the month without anything since all narc scripts say must last 30 days. Ask him about it and see if he can switch to something else

Your dr will not consider you a drugie. They know this happens, it even says that in your script information leflet. Only problem with me is that when I told my dr they took me off EVERYTHING No tapering down and up to something else which is what they are supposed to do!! Withdrawels from MS contin and percs are bad bad bad.......he gave me nothing for withdraweles only said Oh well you wont die from it. I was soooo peeved. Finally found someone else but not on meds that relieve my many ailements........most dr's are too concerned about complying with the stinking DEA while we have to suffer. Im only taking 10mgs of Methadone (for pain) 3x a day and I asked her what about breakthrough pain, she said Oh I give you way more meds than most of my pt's,

I mentioned on another board why cant I have a drug test every month instead of being labeled as a druggie. I have degerative disc disease and arthritis, osteopurosis, nerve damage among others. Its bogus.....So after this long winded post (one of my faults writing too much) Talk to your dr and tell him/her whats going on. And they should be able to work with you. Good luck

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#922752 - 08/28/09 03:37 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: GoogleRose]
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thanks for the info G-Rose. To be honest, I'm very worried about speaking with my dr about adjusting/changing dose/medication. I'm at 120-10/325 a month and count my blessings for that. I feel like going in and speaking with the doctor would be like playing with fire.

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#923647 - 08/30/09 10:38 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: Rebulx]
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Wow thats a good combo Im jealous lol..j/k anyway I do understand your position. You would end up in the same boat as me....Nada!! I just dont understand why dr's know you build up this resistance yet wont increase the dosage or try something stronger. And yes they do label us chronic pain pt's as druggies,especially people who's ins is through the state (me) The DEA is cracking down so hard that we all have to suffer. Whatever you do dont change dr's like I did, not much better. I went to the er last night for chest pains (I have CHF and COPD) and they rushed me in immediate iv, gave me IV Morphinel, then diladid, my heart is giving out so I got a script for hydro's went to
WALGREENS. And they wouldnt fill it!! said I just got my methadone filled on the 24th had to wait till next month,

These meds are 2 different things......one slow acting and the other for acute pain!! I as soooo mad. I will get it done at my reg pharmacy.

As I said I do understand your position and pain its quite normal after years for the resistance builds up. They just quit working period. Perhaps you can ask his advice in a round about way like maybe I have been on these meds for x amount of yrs and is it normal for them to not work as well. Dr's always ask you about your pain scale when you go in. If he has another suggestion that you think wont work just say never mind I will stick with what I have. Short and sweet. See what happens.
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#927205 - 09/08/09 05:02 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: dmg]
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This forum is not to discuss suppliers. This thread is to discuss Oxycodone and not the companies offering it.

Thanks for your support


Edited by Melody (10/05/09 08:43 AM)

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#927208 - 09/08/09 05:11 PM Re: Oxycodone [Re: david1972]
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Develop and get diagnosed with a painful chronic incurable condition or terminal illness. Most types of cancer will do.
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#927361 - 09/09/09 04:08 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: TAZLOVER]
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According to my pcp and what the DEA is requiring now you can only get oxy's if you have cancer. I have all the same disc and arthritis and degn stuff and suffer every day and I dont get diddly squat. Up until a year ago my pcp was giving me (legal scripts) of MScontin and 1 perc per day got a new pcp and he took me off EVERYTHING stating you dont die from withdrawles. Well I didnt but I wont take anything like that anymore and go through the horrible withdrawels. Ive never taken oxy's Nothing higher than legal percs. I just cannot imagine going through withdrawels from oxy's. In otherwards STAY away from it. If you do by some odd chance find a iop that sells it you dont know when they will be shut down, then boom. Not trying to be mean just trying to educate.

Rose
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#927367 - 09/09/09 05:11 AM Re: Oxycodone [Re: GoogleRose]
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GoogleRose - when you say "oxy" are you referring to oxycontin? Percocets are oxycodone.

Sorry to hear about how the new PCP treated you. WD's are an unfortunate aspect of taking any opioid but can be handled if one is able to prepare for the WD's. I think it's cruel when doctors just cuts someone off knowing that they will have WD's.
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