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#894424 - 06/09/09 01:36 PM Will primary doctor write this script?
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I take Lortab for migrain/tension headaches. I haven't gotten them from my primary care doc in years, opting for the convenience of Online consults. The headaches are very predictable and a 60 pill prescription usually lasts me about 45 days. Does anyone know at what level a gp will balk at writing this script? Since RHA, it would sure be easier.

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#894428 - 06/09/09 01:40 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: bsmith]
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Good luck with that! Not to be rude, but I don't think that is gonna happen. I would go on ScriptsCod or similiar and order the Fioricet or Immitrex (sp?). Fioricet works really well. Especially if you are D/Cing the Hydro!

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#894431 - 06/09/09 01:43 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: bsmith]
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Depends on the doctor. My experience is that very few gp's will perscribe. I have very bad bone problems, and can't get anthing. Only told aleve. In the past had very good luck with my pcp, but moved and have not been able to get any pain relief since. I am temp in TX - doc treats every one in the area badly. I had a upper resp. infection and finlly got antibotics, but that is all.
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#895208 - 06/10/09 10:32 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: zzelda01]
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Depends, cant hurt to ask. My dad hasnt had any problems getting the Oxycotin or Percocets that he needs from his GP. He also has a history of multiple surgeries and limps, so that may have had something to do with it.

I highly doubt that a doctor would prescribe Lortab for headaches however.

Best of Luck to you!

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#895215 - 06/10/09 11:03 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: henbenley]
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yes good luck.
its just their are better medications out there that
work for migraines better than narcotics.
im sure your doc will do all he can do to get you the proper
meds.

I know imitrex are extremely expensive!
You may want to try that route.

" Ive used them all, and due to costs and effectiveness i choose to use hydro, its better and cheaper. no matter how well the others work, they dont help if I cant purchase them!!"

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#895219 - 06/10/09 11:26 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: bsmith]
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I don't know why he's prescribing Lortab for headaches, that won't do anything for headaches, besides the tylenol in them.
If you have migraines consistantly, (I don't know what level your head pain is), but valium, xanax, and barbiturates will cause the headache ( if severe) to go away. Fiorcet or Fiornal, actually fiornal is a class 3 while fiorecet is not controlled, even though both have the active ingredient, 50 mg of butabarbital, will.
I take seconal and valium, so I never get a headache. I also take percocet 10/325 (god, I got so much of that that I have scripts that are expiring unfilled) but that doesn't help a headache in me, excedrin does, but i need about 3-4 excedrins if I get a nasty headache, which I seldom do.
Actually, hydrocodone and oxycodone target body aches, not headaches. They can actually cause them,headaches are caused by tension, that's why sedatives are in order.
Tramadol, I don't know what you guys get out of that, I'd rather take a tylenol. Plus, I get so much oxycodone prescribd to me, I have a lot left over when I'm due again.
And i get it legitmatelly, I was seriously burned, cervical spine injurry, and surgery 20 years ago on the brain. I think I get about 300 10/325's a month, 60 7.5's, and 90 10 mg oxycontin, as well as valium, xanax, and seconal, but that's hard to fill and cost a lot.

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#895441 - 06/11/09 01:57 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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Actually, my official diagnosis was Combination Headaches. Atypical Migrain/Tension. The hydro really does help.

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#895674 - 06/12/09 12:59 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: bsmith]
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The tylonal in it does, but oxyconcode and hyrocodone doesn't help headachs, they atognize them. You need some sedative type medicine for that and doctor that prescribes hydrodone for headaxhes is a pusher that's wlling to write them, because he knows you wantthem.

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#895765 - 06/12/09 07:52 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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Originally Posted By: mequin_150
The tylonal in it does, but oxyconcode and hyrocodone doesn't help headachs, they atognize them. You need some sedative type medicine for that and doctor that prescribes hydrodone for headaxhes is a pusher that's wlling to write them, because he knows you wantthem.



I cant see a Dr. being a pusher in this day and age but maybe there are still some out there .

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#897648 - 06/18/09 12:37 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: Chopper01]
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Originally Posted By: Chopper01
Originally Posted By: mequin_150
The tylonal in it does, but oxyconcode and hyrocodone doesn't help headachs, they atognize them. You need some sedative type medicine for that and doctor that prescribes hydrodone for headaxhes is a pusher that's wlling to write them, because he knows you wantthem.



I cant see a Dr. being a pusher in this day and age but maybe there are still some out there .



Good lord, if we all had mequin's doc the world would be a better place smile almost 400 narcotic pain pills a month? Plus Xanax, Valium, and seconal? That is flat out amazing to me.
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#897656 - 06/18/09 12:57 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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Originally Posted By: mequin_150
The tylonal in it does, but oxyconcode and hyrocodone doesn't help headachs, they atognize them. You need some sedative type medicine for that and doctor that prescribes hydrodone for headaxhes is a pusher that's wlling to write them, because he knows you wantthem.

Mequin - Where did you get your medical degree from? You did not mention you were a doctor, so excuse me if I am being disrespectful, but if you have something to back up your claim, please mention it to us "less informed" Personally, I think you are full of hot air and I question anyone with "information" about headache medication that cant even spell the word "headache." I have a very well respected and known neurologist and pain management doc that prescribes me 10 mg of oxy, 3 times a day for chronic headaches and migraines, and it was the first time after god knows how many different triptan type meds that I used that I actually got relief. So with all due respect, I think you are full of s@#t and obviously are not very well educated in the english language, let alone the medical field. JMHO
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#897659 - 06/18/09 01:03 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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Originally Posted By: mequin_150
I don't know why he's prescribing Lortab for headaches, that won't do anything for headaches, besides the tylenol in them.
If you have migraines consistantly, (I don't know what level your head pain is), but valium, xanax, and barbiturates will cause the headache ( if severe) to go away. Fiorcet or Fiornal, actually fiornal is a class 3 while fiorecet is not controlled, even though both have the active ingredient, 50 mg of butabarbital, will.
I take seconal and valium, so I never get a headache. I also take percocet 10/325 (god, I got so much of that that I have scripts that are expiring unfilled) but that doesn't help a headache in me, excedrin does, but i need about 3-4 excedrins if I get a nasty headache, which I seldom do.
Actually, hydrocodone and oxycodone target body aches, not headaches. They can actually cause them,headaches are caused by tension, that's why sedatives are in order.
Tramadol, I don't know what you guys get out of that, I'd rather take a tylenol. Plus, I get so much oxycodone prescribd to me, I have a lot left over when I'm due again.
And i get it legitmatelly, I was seriously burned, cervical spine injurry, and surgery 20 years ago on the brain. I think I get about 300 10/325's a month, 60 7.5's, and 90 10 mg oxycontin, as well as valium, xanax, and seconal, but that's hard to fill and cost a lot.
Sorry but I think this is major:
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#897669 - 06/18/09 03:36 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: Bryan72577]
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Originally Posted By: Bryan72577
Good lord, if we all had mequin's doc the world would be a better place smile almost 400 narcotic pain pills a month? Plus Xanax, Valium, and seconal? That is flat out amazing to me.


I can't help but think that mequin is the reincarnation of someone who was posting this same crapola a few months ago - assuming that people here would start PM'ing him/her and begging for some of those oxy scripts that are about to "expire"....good grief.....

mequin - can you spell B-A-N-N-E-D?
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#897683 - 06/18/09 06:38 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: bsmith]
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i went back to my pcp|gp after it all ended. he will write a monthly 30 count.

he will also refer to a pain clinic, but i live in sticks and it would be a monthly visit for me and it would basically kill a day a month. i can not afford to miss that much work.

thanks a lot Dea.

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#897685 - 06/18/09 07:01 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: NOPE]
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Even if you take that whole day to go to the PM you may not get anything. My Dr. told me to tell them to just drug test me and get some medication. Of course I didn't say that since I felt it wouldn't sit right and just got more tests ordered at the PM. I had two Dr.'s at the same time say I needed pain management and referred me. One an Ortho and my primary.
The PM dr. after I spent half a day in the office told me I should be happy I do not have tumors. I'm still blown away by that statement. I made a F2F appt. that day.
PM wants to give you shots, order more tests and than maybe just maybe if you are still suffering for months give you some meds.
I hope you have a much better experience.
Take the one day and see how it goes.
My Primay Dr. is afraid of the DEA. I agree. Thanks DEA!!!
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Originally Posted By: NOPE
i went back to my pcp|gp after it all ended. he will write a monthly 30 count.

he will also refer to a pain clinic, but i live in sticks and it would be a monthly visit for me and it would basically kill a day a month. i can not afford to miss that much work.

thanks a lot Dea.

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#897957 - 06/18/09 06:23 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: genethebean1]
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Originally Posted By: Bryan72577
Good lord, if we all had mequin's doc the world would be a better place smile almost 400 narcotic pain pills a month? Plus Xanax, Valium, and seconal? That is flat out amazing to me.


I can't help but think that mequin is the reincarnation of someone who was posting this same crapola a few months ago - assuming that people here would start PM'ing him/her and begging for some of those oxy scripts that are about to "expire"....good grief.....

mequin - can you spell B-A-N-N-E-D?


Didn't even think about that. With all of the scammers and people with malicious intentions, it's getting harder and harder to find the truth.

I thought I was pretty good with then in's and out's of this online med world and have recently been duped and taken advantage of like a newbie, very humbling to say the least. Eating crow is not very much fun. Please exercise EXTREME caution in this day and age.
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#897995 - 06/18/09 08:38 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: muzzie]
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Originally Posted By: muzzie
Originally Posted By: mequin_150
I don't know why he's prescribing Lortab for headaches, that won't do anything for headaches, besides the tylenol in them.
If you have migraines consistantly, (I don't know what level your head pain is), but valium, xanax, and barbiturates will cause the headache ( if severe) to go away. Fiorcet or Fiornal, actually fiornal is a class 3 while fiorecet is not controlled, even though both have the active ingredient, 50 mg of butabarbital, will.
I take seconal and valium, so I never get a headache. I also take percocet 10/325 (god, I got so much of that that I have scripts that are expiring unfilled) but that doesn't help a headache in me, excedrin does, but i need about 3-4 excedrins if I get a nasty headache, which I seldom do.
Actually, hydrocodone and oxycodone target body aches, not headaches. They can actually cause them,headaches are caused by tension, that's why sedatives are in order.
Tramadol, I don't know what you guys get out of that, I'd rather take a tylenol. Plus, I get so much oxycodone prescribd to me, I have a lot left over when I'm due again.
And i get it legitmatelly, I was seriously burned, cervical spine injurry, and surgery 20 years ago on the brain. I think I get about 300 10/325's a month, 60 7.5's, and 90 10 mg oxycontin, as well as valium, xanax, and seconal, but that's hard to fill and cost a lot.
Sorry but I think this is major:
bssign

I agree welldone
It is funny how people that do not have chronic daily headaches try and give their opinion like it is a walk in the park. I was treated like sh-- for years then my headaches progressed and now I fight every day. My Pm doc is awesome but I do some work for the trust. Bottom line is everyone is different and no medication works for everyone each person is different some can take feverfew and headache is gone some ginger some hydro. We are all different situations and diseases. Yah in know Medication Overuse Headaches occure in some of the population but that is not always the case!

"but i need about 3-4 excedrins if I get a nasty headache, which I seldom do." This part is really funny if this works I have some exedrin to sell you --Just kidding.


This person is probably looking for people to PM them for a scam anyways Like Genethebean said.

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#898029 - 06/18/09 10:29 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: tumorman]
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I live in a small community and my primary care doc is also my PM and OB/GYN doc. He had me sign a contract and all, but he's still the guy I go to when I have a cold. He started me out on just Vicodin, then switched me from everything from MS Contin to Fentanyl to the now Methadone with Vicodin for breakthrough pain. He's a great doc who doubles as a PM doc which helps with copays. Only thing is it does suck to have to do a pill count and a pap smear on the same appointment! LOL!! He does pill counts for his PM patients on all their other visits, which is fine with me as I don't over or under (and therefore sell) my meds.

Some docs are good with giving prescriptions, some aren't. I used to have terrible migraines back around 1992, and at the time my doc gave me Stadol nasal spray. Try to find that now! LOL!

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#898837 - 06/20/09 11:18 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: brownfood]
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Actually, I still get Stadol, one a month. I was in between neuros and my pcp gave me fioricet with codeine and stadol since i told her that's what worked. I told my new neuro and he kept me on those. I also have a list of all the meds i've tried since 1995, from imitrex to depakote. I have the side effects listed next to each. I have an area for what works in the ER and what doesn't. The neuro was impressed when I showed it to him. I also had a headache log with my cycle noted on it too.

One of my PMs lectured me about rebound headaches but I told him a day of rebound (that motrin helps) is much better than the 5 day migraine that always ended up dehydrating me. He saw my point.

Years ago, one PM gave me 3 bottles of Stadol a month. I definately had built up some tolerance to it.

bsmith, you'll never know until you present your situation to your PCP and see what they say. Logs do help to validate your pain.

It really depends on the doc. I had one PM give me 90 fioricet with codeine a month and another thought I needed inpatient detox for taking 20 plain fioricet. I've been to numerous neuros over the years as insurance plans changed, etc.
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#909663 - 07/20/09 11:05 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: muzzie]
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Butabarbital (fiorcet and fiornal) are prescribed for migraines, not narcotics, and especially not oxys. I don't get 400 pills a month, if it is that many, it's all the different medications combined, I take cholestoral medicine, etc.
Oxycontin will give me a headache sometimes and I don't really get headaches. I'm not a doctor, but when a lot of people were getting oxys 10 years ago they all complained of headaches, the high causes like a stress. I'm not speaking just for myself, but just about everybody I ever knew that took it.
And if you think I'm full of s*it, if I told you my medical/injury history, the operations, the hospitals, every medication you can think of, I don't have to be a doctor to know what effects certain meds have, especially since I'm not the only one.

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#909670 - 07/20/09 11:22 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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I wish the Doctor I went to would give me Firocet, I hate the Tramadol, it does nothing but make my head feel more squeezed

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#909683 - 07/20/09 12:01 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: sammmtana]
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Originally Posted By: sammmtana
I wish the Doctor I went to would give me Firocet, I hate the tramadol, it does nothing but make my head feel more squeezed


Have you discussed Fiorcet with your doctor?
You may not want to go this route, but places like Friendly Clinic has it.

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#909685 - 07/20/09 12:07 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: Ballerina59]
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Opiates only increase my headaches, it's all they
have ever done. Imitrex. That stuff works
for me but when it runs out I must take more.
It certainly does not take a way my headache,
but masks it well.
My migraines last three days or so.


Edited by salty1 (07/20/09 12:19 PM)
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#909780 - 07/20/09 06:19 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: sammmtana]
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Why won't he give you fiorcet? I don't think that's considered controlled, but fiornal is, go figure.
Phrenalin is something for the same purpose with the same active ingredient, you might be able to get that by him, but if it's the barbiturate, he won't go for that either. It's not a barbiturate like the old ones were. Just enough to relax the tension away.

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#909783 - 07/20/09 06:25 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: salty1]
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Does the same thing to me. I usually have to take two extra strentgh tylenol, if that doesn't work, two more, etc. Although I'm getting wary of tylenol levels, I'll take excedrin now, that usually works, I shied away from it before because if i need more than two, that can cause nasuea.
But like you, that's temporary, it usually lasts for days, sometimes five. It doesn't happen to me that much, but they are really buggers and narcotic pills don't help at all.

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#909792 - 07/20/09 07:28 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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I have no idea why, now mind you I had been on it years ago, and never had a problem, but I relocated to another area three years ago, and am having a heck of a time finding anyone to prescribe anything. He claims Tramadol will work better. Well it does not at least for me. I hate it. I also have found tabs help when I have a s uper migraine but fiorect has helped the best. when i get a migraine i tense up and everything spasms. I am not sure why he will not write it and I guess was lucky from what i heard fomr others I was lucky to get the Tramadol. I posted another thread where I went to urgent care told i h ad gout yet doc would not prescribe anythign for pain. in this area they are petrified. But I am guess because it is a barbituate he may not want to write yet, yet I personally think Tramadol is far worst. I thought of ordering on line but am scared to death to do so

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#910192 - 07/21/09 11:09 PM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: sammmtana]
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Look into Friendly Clinic as they do ship Fioricet overnight and are reliable. They do take CC's and do deliver. I would not be scared of using them. My main problem is migraines and I have had PCP's for years script me Fiornal and was in-between as I was moving and I did use FC and they came through quickly. I can not tolerate Imitrex and the other new Migraine meds and have had migraines since I was a teenager when Fiornal was the only real drug of choice back then. I have always been honest with my Dr on what works for me and have never had a problem after trying the alternatives and listing the side effects or non relief I have found from them. Of course they do not script vast quantities.

Tramadol does nothing for migraines from my past experience and are worse then Fioricet (although some opinions may differ)
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#910232 - 07/22/09 02:20 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: salty1]
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Originally Posted By: salty1
Opiates only increase my headaches, it's all they
have ever done. Imitrex. That stuff works
for me but when it runs out I must take more.
It certainly does not take a way my headache,
but masks it well.
My migraines last three days or so.


Migraines have been getting more attention in the last 5 years you sire are incorrect as is meniquin-150 they have given me my life back to a point no magic I hate the stuff. I have been through the hell of close to 80 different profolactic, triptans ,ETC Then brain surgery almost did not make that one tumor basically entraped between my brain stem long surgery. I know what I am talking about with headaches. I just had a discussion with my doctor about heart problems associated with using more than 3 times a week or 6 I forget the point is I have migraines that triptans work on and I hit the limit most of the time and heart problems scare me with triptans. I have suffered for 15 years with tru severe headache pain not your exedrine kills my headach pain sorry if that is ofensive I am offended about the lack of current migraine knowlege here.

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#910233 - 07/22/09 02:25 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: bsmith]
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Originally Posted By: bsmith
I take Lortab for migrain/tension headaches. I haven't gotten them from my primary care doc in years, opting for the convenience of Online consults. The headaches are very predictable and a 60 pill prescription usually lasts me about 45 days. Does anyone know at what level a gp will balk at writing this script? Since RHA, it would sure be easier.


You need to take control with your doctors fire them if you get no reliefe. That said I am a very honest and listen to there suggestions and keep a diary. I Think you will find frustration in doctors but keep looking imitrex might do the trick try it I do maxault. I also use something similular to your request it works.

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#910234 - 07/22/09 02:34 AM Re: Will primary doctor write this script? [Re: mequin_150]
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Originally Posted By: mequin_150
Does the same thing to me. I usually have to take two extra strentgh tylenol, if that doesn't work, two more, etc. Although I'm getting wary of tylenol levels, I'll take excedrin now, that usually works, I shied away from it before because if i need more than two, that can cause nasuea.
But like you, that's temporary, it usually lasts for days, sometimes five. It doesn't happen to me that much, but they are really buggers and narcotic pills don't help at all.


One neurologist beat into my head Medication overuse headaches years ago so I stopped all even over the counter with no reliefe in 6 months. This includes the combination you take not just narcotics more than 3 times a week. Now things have changed they are realizing there are different reasons for different headaches. Thought I would point that out. There is no one that can tell you with certintanty what causes chronic migraine syndrome I have the best neuro in town. They have clues and know the brains of migrain pacients are sensitive and many things can set a severe episode off.

Good luck to all that suffer this awfull torture. This who know will understand this statement.

Tm

I am not beating on you but all migrains are not the same.

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