No Stevo, Im talking about people like me, who have a low post count. Lets say Ive got 30. Tomorrow you see me at 201. See what Im trying to say? Some people under 200 will do whatever it takes to get to that 200 just so they can post. Im much too lazy to do that however.

Plus Stevo, youve been around awhile, long enough for your high post count. Its the people who dont have enough (200) who will take to doing this just so theyre able to post.

I agree with you the Shills will do whatever they have to, To get to Shill! Kinda Like life in general .....The Bad Boys always Ruin it for Everyone!

And it will be Obvious as to what they are doing and We and Admin will Catch them....Kinda like a Newbie making 25 Worthless Posts so they can PM! There will always be those who try to Circumvent the Rules.

All said ....I think Admin is Open to suggestions and Since we don't know the Back end of how the Board works.... and the amount of time it takes to Moderate it ....There will be Good Suggestions that are Not Feasible to Implement.

I have an idea, sort of goes along with another someone's idea. You know how this board is open to lurkers? That anyone can read this stuff without even having to register? Id say make it private until they register. And also change the registration process (as someone stated) to where it's a bit longer and more frustrating to get into. Most people (if theyre here for no good) will run away fast. People with a true need will stay and sign up. I dont know how any of this works or if it can happen but thats my 2 cents.

I think in general any group you have to register for should be private. I was not awareyou could google and find posts. That is a bit icky lol to me, and I am sure just in general, any board can be made private. Myabe not but I know I moderate a Yahoo group and they are marked as private for members only, very good idea

Sounds Like a Good Idea to Me....I Like the Private Idea the Best!
Admin ....What do you think? Pro's... Con's?

Since this is again off topic, I will put a link to my introduction page to answer it for those that are interested. [url=introduction post]http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbthreads.php/topics/910054#Post910054[/url]

I think there are shills and then there are shills, meaning they have many reasons to hawk a place. Some may be legit some may be not. I think ultimately it is up to each of us to figure out who is who and which is which. Otherwise it is socialism.

No way in the world for any op, unless I ran the place myself, would I go through the craziness of posting that much just to post in an area. I say just let it die. It is hard enough to post a few much less 200. Doesn't even begin to to be worth it.

In the past I have gotten some good orders from there but I was very picky and tried to time it right, but with no posts it is no longer possible.

Well I will trying to understand what you are saying.....But I will try to take this in a good way.

Xanadu - one need not "bombard" the board. We all have time issues. Work, kids, family, etc. It is the same for us all. Add errands, etc and free time is short.

I am not picking on you - please know that - but if you want to be a participating member - then be one. Sometimes you can come on and sometimes you can not. Either is OK.

I look forward to your posts. I bet you have much to contribute.

Love your user name, BTW. See you on the trail ahead.

My question is: How are we supposed to post fb if we dont have the required posts??? Does this mean we are to just sit and wait for people with more then 200 posts to give us their experiences????

What if we have been scammed by someone and cant post it to try and save someone else??

I agree that something has to be done about scammers but I am not sure that this will take care of the problem.

Also, where are we supposed to ask about sites??? What thread area do we use?

I am sooooooooooooooooo confused!!! lol

Hey Steve, I din't mean to direpect you at all, or anybody else. I was just built that way (hard to understand). What I mean IMHO is that as opposed to the government deciding what is best for us, we should decided for ourselves who is and isn't a Shill. And what their actual purpose is by which I mean are they trying to drum up bussiness, get back at the op, whatever.

Basically I just want us all to decide for ourselves who we do business with and with everybodies input we are more likely to make better decisions.

I just hit the reply button where I should have written my statement and hit submit.

Hope we are good.

All is good with me! ...Just constructive Criticism !

I have had pm conversations with a couple of people who now think there is almost no area that they can post in until they hit 200 posts.

The pm's go something like this "how can we make posts if we can't post, that does not make sense?"

People who are reading this who are confused, this rule affects less than 5% of the board. The other 95%+ of the board you can still post on as soon as you get your posting privileges.

Fire - thank you for posting this. I do think there is alot of confusion and it is good you cleared it up.

Most of the board is still fully available. As admin stated - the "enter at your own risk" part is restricted - for posting only - to those who have 200 posts.

Yes, if one already has that count, I can understand why someone would think "yeah, easy for you to say", but there is a reason for the new rule. If no problem had existed, then. . . no new rule.

I did not get involved for some time, but once I did, I have really benefited. Whether anyone else has benefited from my participation is up for debate, lol.

May everyone benefit from this site as I have. It has been a blessing in many ways.

Without naming names, as that would not be fair, there are people on this site that have racked up close to 400 posts in less than the past month. So it can be done. I have no idea where all those posts were but I've seen a bunch. And while I don't believe they are scammers or shills since many of the posts I saw were helpful, they were able to rack up the posts with the oversight of the Admin and if they had a mind to they could now scam or Shill all they wanted.


Admin comments: you are starting to sound like a broken record, or CD, that just plays the same track over and over...

Yes, Odman, you are of course correct. Be it an effort to rack up posts or that they have something to say - I don't know.

I have enough trouble monitoring my own life, lol, let alone this site. And, even tho I said "lol" I am serious.

Good to "see" you again. I trust life has been somewhat kind to you? Hope so. Take good care of your good self. Ya hear?

If the op is established and posted to be reviewed by the admin or mods life goes on as usual and that pretty much takes care of, as was said, 95% of the ops. But to me you make a valid point with a new site. Many of the members that have been here for awhile have established there sources and are less likely to stray off into unknown territory. Whereas members with less established sources are more likely to take a risk on something new. We will likely get burned but explore nonetheless. So I can't think of anywhere we can post a new site and discuss it.

They are probably saving us from ourselves but I can't see a place to ask about new sites either. Not that big of a deal though.

Vamp - if I could offer my humble opinion - and I am speaking for Admin when I probably shouldn't be - he wants this site to be legit. Not a place where shills and scammers have a free ride.

And, lol, sometimes we DO need to be saved from ourselves. I speak from experience.

This rule (again IMHO) is not targeted at people seeking sources, but rather at those who would USE those seekers - basically to steal from them. It is good to remember this.

As I have suggested, find out which forum you could post in to reveal your experiences. We all play by many Rules in life and, I believe, it makes life easier ultimately.

I wish you well. May life deliver just the right amount of good stuff.

I understand the concerns and why the new Rules are in place, but it is a little disheartening to think that there could be some that used a service and got scammed...but then they can't figure out where to post that expereince.

As a new user...I would automatically find a thread with the name of the service and want to post there, I'm sure it is the same with many users.

I just hate to think that people are beig scammed and cannot talk about it.

But we still can talk about it. Just certain forums on the site cannot be accessed which makes no differance to me. You can respond to most of the threads as far as I can tell, and add your own feelings. I have not been around that long and have no problems posting. I certainly understand your concerns, I have many as well. I am more concerned about people not involved with the board who can google posts than the 200 rule. That is the least of my conerns lol but i understand.

Good Life - welcome to the board! Yes, I understand your reasoning. With every single rule under the sun there are positives and negatives.

And since you do not have enough posts to PM - well, if you discover a scammer, maybe you could start a thread in the Open Discussion thread? Admin is the final decider of this, but it's worth a try. Hope I am not giving bad advice.

I guess my point - in my many posts on this thread - is there are always options. People here would welcome your input and, surely, there is a place to put it. And, your experiences are very welcome. There are so many scammers out there that anyone who can shed some light on these blankety blanks is more than welcome. Start a thread.

Hope you keep coming back. We love your input.

You raise an important point about your concerns regarding the difficulty some people have maintaining anonymity on today's Internet.
Not only can your "screen name" turn up all over the place if you don't change it from site to site but thanks to the various discussion groups hosted by Yahoo, topix and AOL, your email address is also likely to be floating around. Especially Yahoo and AOL addresses.
I'm surprised that so many Internet users are not more aware of this transparency concerning their personal details.

I just had an issue, where I thought let me check my name and do a search, and I was actually quite upset that a group I belong to, not this one, has made access to some very personal information. Oh and thank you for responding. I really am more concerned with privacy issues than the 200 rule. It really does not bother me. I know who I am and what I am not, and I can offer information that is needed in places people will se it. But it really is scary what comes up. There has to be a way to make the groups private, I know Yahoo does.

Thanks PNW and same to you.

To Admin: Sorry if you think pointing out the issues with the limits sounds like a broken CD (I didn't use "record" since many here might not even remember them) but I am answering back others who seem to share the same sentiment. I hope that your rule has saved more people than it hurt but I'm sure it has also hurt some. At one site, I believe it is rxinus, there has been a question about whether anyone has received anything that has been up for days without an answer. Its very posssible that some with less than 200 posts could have already provided info that would have been important. I don't mean to upset you. I'm Just posting responses to people who have comments on the rule which I thought was part of the reason for this site. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that. It won't be long before I have 200 posts but still won't change my belief that its not necessarily the best way to stop scams and shills. I wish I had some great idea I could share that would help, but I don't, at least not yet.

i cant say wen ive recieved on some forums

Have read about this topic about a month before I joined here. I see a lot of posts where people are obviously trying to skirt around this rule anyway.

Got to think this is a good idea just because of the number of questionable post and posters who try to avoid the moderators Rules.

Grace

BAMBINO exactly, and I am not sure how they can get that many posts lol so quikly in some cases, other than being on line and posting just to post. I have other things to do, but in everything,there are Rules, and when you register with groups we agree to the terms, that is how I look at it. It all works out in the end

No, actually Yahoo seems like it does but in reality it does not.
All you have to do is look at the headers on the "contact this member" link.

Personally, I see the need to keep shilling off of the board as well as so much bickering which stays posted. I am a bit frustrated I can't post some recent successes, but those are the Rules. I know there are too many of us for individual exceptions but my join date was a long time ago when things were not so dog eat dog with IOP's <with or without websites> popping up to rip off and disappear, unlike just about a year or 2 ago. That is when I decided to finally start posting, joining in on giving advice when asked and posting relevant posts as anyone can see. I won't artificially boost my post count just to get around the Rules, though this one kinda sorta contradicts that philosophy and gets me one post closer . I just wish admin would take other things into consideration and allow me to share. Now that I have that off my chest, I will resume normal posting practices and thanks for listening to anyone who cares to read this
Peace
DM