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#906245 - 07/10/09 05:43 AM something for sleep
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ok a few years back i was prescribed by a dumbass dr seroquel for sleeping and not till a went to a new doc he told me that that was absolutly absured ao he prescribed me trazodone, but i really dont like how it makes me feel, im looking into ambian a bit, but does anyone else have any suggjestions?
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#906249 - 07/10/09 06:13 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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im no doc, but here is my experience. and believe me insomnia is horrific! one time i couldn't sleep for a week and wound up hallucinating in the hospital.

so first, if you want to go light try Benadryl 25mgs.

if no good, next i would try to get temazepam 15mgs from your doc. if you have to, get him to up it to 30mgs if it doesn't work for you.

even 5-10 mgs of valium is usually good.

note, all these things wont work for long as you will build up a tolerance.

ambian i would stay away from, it could really f u up. serious amnesia and all sorts of side effects. one weird thing is you can forget how many you took, and keep taking more while in a zombie state. strange drug. but very euphoric...

just my exp. jmo. take from it what you want...

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#906250 - 07/10/09 06:15 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: july_10_2009]
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Halcion. upjohn17.

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#906252 - 07/10/09 06:21 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: bnudy]
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well i no longer have insurance so i got to this place that helps people out and he said trazodone is the best he cdan give me, sso ambian is no good?

you say vailium works, what bout xanax?

i dunno iv taken a xany bar and it doesnt seem to allow me to actuaolly fall asleep
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#906255 - 07/10/09 06:31 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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xanax has such a short half life, whereas Valiums are much longer. try the light stuff i suggested first. if no good, then im pretty sure a val 5mg or definitely 10mg should knock you out.

you could go ambian and it will knock you out, but very addicting and can lead to very strange behavior. they will mess your memory up bigtime.

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#906257 - 07/10/09 06:35 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: july_10_2009]
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Seroquel 100mg always wors great for me.

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#906258 - 07/10/09 06:36 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: july_10_2009]
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well currently i can take 2 xany bars and it wont do nothing to me for sleep, sorry bout my typing i just tried the somas i just recieved from basic
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#906259 - 07/10/09 06:36 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: july_10_2009]
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i would think xanax and valium to be much more addicting than ambian if all are taken on a nightly basis.

if only taken when needed, all will lead to a good nights sleep. (ie, not daily)


Edited by funkybreakz (07/10/09 06:37 AM)
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#906283 - 07/10/09 08:11 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: funkybreakz]
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Originally Posted By: funkybreakz
i would think xanax and valium to be much more addicting than ambian if all are taken on a nightly basis.

if only taken when needed, all will lead to a good nights sleep. (ie, not daily)


They are the WORSE BENZOS for those sleeping seek on ANY consistent basis IMO as well. Occasionally, like funky said is OK, but this is not the course you want to set your ship on. It will sink very quickly.

I have had pretty good success with watching my diet after 1800hrs, reducing caffeine, and have had great success using melatonin.

http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/tc/melatonin-overview


Edited by PharmaKarma (07/10/09 08:12 AM)

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#906305 - 07/10/09 09:13 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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I like Temazepam
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#906315 - 07/10/09 09:39 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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I would recommend Lunesta. I took it every night for over a year and it was very effective.......no hangovers the next day like some other drugs. The sleep felt very natural and when I woke up the next morning I felt well rested. I was able to stop taking Lunesta cold turkey with no problem. Now I only take it as needed. I will say stay away from Ambien. That was the weirdest sleep drug I've ever taken. I experienced sleep walking and amnesia which was frightening. I remember taking an Ambien one night and about 4 hours later woke up frightened because I didn't know where the hell I was or who put me to bed. My parents urged me to stop taking it and I did. I wouldn't recommend a benzo for sleep cause those can be dangerous and are addictive. Try Somulin which is all natural and works pretty good for a natural drug. What about giving Rozerem a try? That's a prescription one but ask for samples first to see if you like it.

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#906317 - 07/10/09 09:52 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Americanpop]
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My Dr. recently gave me 50mg Elavil to help me sleep because I am on Suboxone and it makes it hard to sleep through the night. I wouldn't recomend it(elavil) to anyone. I am gonna try to get the Lunesta on my next visit, I hear alot of great things about it.

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#906323 - 07/10/09 10:13 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Nick78]
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FYI, after you take the elavil for a week or so, the side effects (groggy, lack of energy, hung over) seem to go away. At least they do for me. I switch from 25mg to 50 mg (I was prescribed 1 to 3 tablets(25mg) per night.

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#906330 - 07/10/09 10:24 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Americanpop]
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Originally Posted By: Americanpop
\Try Somulin which is all natural and works pretty good for a natural drug.


Since I have never heard of Somulin, I performed a brief search for info on it. All I have found is mostly advertising site promoting the product. Then I found this site which appears to be unbiased and informative for those facing sleeping issues. They only recommend a few products they believe work the best in fact. Maybe someone others can provide feedback one their objectivity and accuracy:


http://sleepingpillreviews.com/wordpress/somulin


UPDATE: I could not find any valid information on the 3 products they recommend. In fact, they stated something like "50MG of melantonin is considered effective. Well, I take one or two 3MG tablets, therefore, I have lost faith in their accuracy.


Edited by PharmaKarma (07/10/09 10:54 AM)

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#906333 - 07/10/09 10:28 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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take a lendormin to knock you out and a valium or halcion to keep you asleep.... the perfect benzo combination for sleeping

seroquel is a good choice for sleeping as it has always knocked me on my asss

and also the 5mg melatonin ER pills work like a charm tooo


Edited by thacarter3 (07/10/09 10:30 AM)
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#906337 - 07/10/09 10:40 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: thacarter3]
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Originally Posted By: thacarter3


and also the 5mg melatonin ER pills work like a charm tooo


Some more info because it works for me and I take 3mg or 6mg usually: In adults, melatonin is taken in different dosages from 0.2 to 20.0 mg, depending on the reason for using the supplement. The recommended dose is typically 0.5 mg. The appropriate dosage of melatonin varies widely from one person to another. If you have difficulty getting to sleep or staying asleep, your health professional can help determine the proper dosage and whether melatonin is right for you.

Source: WebMD


Edited by PharmaKarma (07/10/09 10:56 AM)

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#906353 - 07/10/09 11:07 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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I have never tried Melatonin before but I might look into it. The Elavil is just not working for me and like I said b4 I am gonna try Lunesta I guess.

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#906419 - 07/10/09 02:14 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Nick78]
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I've tried most of the benzo sleeping pills and the Z drugs Zopiclone etc.. and i find that 0.250mgs (2 pills) of Halcion (Trizolam) always does the trick for me.

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#906441 - 07/10/09 02:48 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: thacarter3]
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Originally Posted By: thacarter3
take a lendormin to knock you out and a valium or halcion to keep you asleep....


It's strange that you say you take a Halcion to keep yourself asleep after taking a Lendormin. Aren't brotizolam and triazolam pretty much the same, both in effect and same very short half-life? It's almost like double dosing one or the other.

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#906465 - 07/10/09 03:17 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Lidlwonder]
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sorry i meant halcion or lendormin (short acting benzo) and a valium to keep you asleep....hope that cleared it up!

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#906515 - 07/10/09 05:08 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: thacarter3]
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If you are having a sleeping problem, may I suggest going to your doctor and requesting a sleep study?? There they may find the answer to your sleeplessness, or you may just have a temporary bout of insomnia. For me, I have a sleep disorder that requires me to take 300mg of trazodone, 2mg of klonopin and 1 Ambien CR in order to get 7 full hours of refreshing sleep. I have NEVER had an issue with Ambien ONCE in the 8 years that I've off and on been taking it. Not even one slight strange thing has happened to me while on it, except I got drowsy and slept. SOME people have issues with it, not ALL, so it's best to go to your doc, ask for some samples, and try it yourself. Going deep into other drugs is unnecessary unless you have tried all that you can and NEED to experiment for yourself. At least, that's my 2 pence.
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#906585 - 07/10/09 08:44 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ]
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yes trazodone always makes me have nightmares and the sleep is not comfortable. I used to be perscribed seroquel for sleep but that is a very serious drug with many side effects i would not recoment staying on that, it leads to diabetes
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#906643 - 07/11/09 01:50 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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I've tried few sleeping pills and Midazolam/Dormicum works very well.

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#906668 - 07/11/09 03:06 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Detroit_dmx]
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Few posts in this thread mention or discuss natural solutions like diet, exercise, special teas or various herbs and plants. It seems so many folks just want that MAGIC pill to accomplish everything from sleeping to weight loss.

While some of you indeed need the meds for some of these conditions, most just go directly for the MAGIC PILL approach. I think this is a very bad mistake. Especially when I hear of benzos being used for sleep consistency. This is very dangerous and addictive. Try ANYTHING before taking drugs, especially daily folks.

OK, turning off the the teleprompter. smile


Edited by PharmaKarma (07/11/09 03:13 AM)

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#906887 - 07/11/09 06:30 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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Originally Posted By: clarkey00
I've tried most of the benzo sleeping pills and the Z drugs Zopiclone etc.. and i find that 0.250mgs (2 pills) of Halcion (Trizolam) always does the trick for me.

Any reliable place to oder Halcion?????

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#906902 - 07/11/09 07:46 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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do you practice what you preach?..from your past posts you seem to be very familar with the iop world so i am assuming that you have a special need yourself to obtain meds..did the other alternative ways you just posted about not work for you..


Edited by ANGEL2 (07/11/09 07:50 PM)

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#906909 - 07/11/09 08:08 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ANGEL2]
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I have never used any benzos solely to seek sleep, so in a way, yes' I do practice what I say. Another factor may be that I do not require much sleep in general. I can run on 2-4 hrs of sleep for months on end. I was really only posing the question as a means to consider alternatives. How many of us do not feel better when we exercise, eat right, and minimize medications? I know I always do when I am in that routine. Maintaining the program, now that is the real challenge IMO.


Edited by PharmaKarma (07/11/09 08:10 PM)

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#906972 - 07/12/09 12:19 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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Good for you! 2-4 hours of sleep a night for weeks on end. No naps?
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#906976 - 07/12/09 12:53 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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Originally Posted By: PharmaKarma
Few posts in this thread mention or discuss natural solutions like diet, exercise, special teas or various herbs and plants. It seems so many folks just want that MAGIC pill to accomplish everything from sleeping to weight loss.

While some of you indeed need the meds for some of these conditions, most just go directly for the MAGIC PILL approach. I think this is a very bad mistake. Especially when I hear of benzos being used for sleep consistency. This is very dangerous and addictive. Try ANYTHING before taking drugs, especially daily folks.

OK, turning off the the teleprompter. smile


Well, I have never had a need to take a sleeping pill of any kind in my life, and after reading some of the stories on here for years, I consider myself blessed! One thing I do on a regular basis is exercise, pretty rigorously, and in doing that, I fall asleep beautifully every night. JMHO...
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#907049 - 07/12/09 12:18 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: OldandWorn]
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Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
Good for you! 2-4 hours of sleep a night for weeks on end. No naps?

You are spot-on friend. I would grab several 5-20 min power naps and feel like I slept for hours. The odd consequence, and perhaps someone has additional input, is if I napped for any longer than 30 mins, I almost ALWAYS crashed for hours and could not get up.

On a schedule like I was working, is it possible to hit the REM level that quickly? How could those 15 extra mins of sleep just put me completely out cold? This was very consistent and about 15mins seems the work the best for my power naps.

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#907296 - 07/13/09 02:54 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: tiffy1]
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Originally Posted By: tiffy1
I like Temazepam


I also have been prescribed Temazepam 30mg since 1997 and they still work great for me. The trick is you should always take them 1/2 hour before sleep because if you take it too early, they won't work. I read that the FDA is really close to OK'ing an older trycilic antidepressent for insomnia, the drug is called Doxipen, and it may be a better choice since it isn't habit forming like benzos. The only drawback IMO is it has a long half life, and you can wake up with a hangover..I take Doxipen 150mg for depression so that is how I know it can cause hangover effects at first. After awhile it goes away

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#907299 - 07/13/09 03:02 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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Originally Posted By: PharmaKarma
Few posts in this thread mention or discuss natural solutions like diet, exercise, special teas or various herbs and plants. It seems so many folks just want that MAGIC pill to accomplish everything from sleeping to weight loss.

While some of you indeed need the meds for some of these conditions, most just go directly for the MAGIC PILL approach. I think this is a very bad mistake. Especially when I hear of benzos being used for sleep consistency. This is very dangerous and addictive. Try ANYTHING before taking drugs, especially daily folks.

OK, turning off the the teleprompter. smile


Before you start preaching have you even thought that most of us that have to take sleeping medications HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING ELSE and nothing worked? I would love to know something..Are you a doctor or any other kind of medical professional? Unless the answer is yes, stick to answering a posters questions instead of lecturing the person. Have you considered that maybe you are on the wrong forum? I for one took offence at your post.

HottieAt50 pissedoff
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#907825 - 07/14/09 12:44 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: HottieAt50]
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I feel I need a full 8 hours to feel good the next morning. I like to be in bed by 9:30 as I have to get up at 5:30. At about 8, I take 2 excedrim PM's, and at about 8:45, I take .5mg xanax.

The xanax keeps my mind from racing, and the excedrim makes me tired.

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#907852 - 07/14/09 01:53 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: riverboat]
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You can get Halcion 0.125mg(Triazolam) Brand name - at Toprxsavings.com for a good price, The only problem with Toprx are their shipping prices.. speechless

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#907910 - 07/14/09 04:52 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: HottieAt50]
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I'm going to choose that he was being sarcastic. Probably just so my head doesn't explode.

I have tried everything out there. Everything. Yes, that too. And that...and that one as well. Does anyone think I would *choose* to expend ridiculous amounts of money and effort for a pill if tweaking my diet and/or having a cuppa helped me?

That is offensive.

So, I choose to believe it was a satirical post. Yeah that's it.

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#907914 - 07/14/09 05:07 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: dvz]
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Like most of you, I've tried most everything. But for me personally seroquel worked well for a few years. Thank goodness I dont have the sleeping problems nowadays. Ambien, Sonata, etc. didnt do anything and the benzos wear off too fast and I'd wake up after a few hours. With seroquel I was getting a full eight hours.

Hope you find your magic potion!

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#907936 - 07/14/09 06:14 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ManicMaiden]
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i tried seroquel and for me it was the worst med i have ever taken..yes i did sleep very well but was a zombie for the next 3 days..i will never take that stuff again..i guess it just did not agree with my body chemistry or whatever..i would be very careful before taking it..

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#907940 - 07/14/09 06:18 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ANGEL2]
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manic maiden ..sry this post was not meant for you since you said you did well on it..

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#908015 - 07/14/09 11:38 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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Originally Posted By: clarkey00
You can get Halcion 0.125mg(Triazolam) Brand name - at Toprxsavings.com for a good price, The only problem with Toprx are their shipping prices.. speechless


I have tried Halcion before and the only problem I find is that I wake up really early. I think it is one of the shorter acting benzos. Don't get me wrong, they put me out fast, and for someone who doesn't need 8-9 hours like I do, they are great,but for me the Temazepam works better because it lets me stay asleep. I have tried Dalmane, which is similar, however, they are too long acting and they leave a horrible taste in my mouth. I also tried Ambien, trazadone, and many years ago was perescribed stuff they don't even have anymore (which is probably a good thing) and out of everything that is available today, I will still stick with Temazepam.

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#908017 - 07/14/09 11:40 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ANGEL2]
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Originally Posted By: ANGEL2
manic maiden ..sry this post was not meant for you since you said you did well on it..


That was an inapropriate thing to say to any poster. We are here to help each other, and Manic Maiden shared her experience with what works for her, so your post IMO was out of line

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#908883 - 07/17/09 09:21 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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Originally Posted By: clarkey00
You can get Halcion 0.125mg(Triazolam) Brand name - at Toprxsavings.com for a good price, The only problem with Toprx are their shipping prices.. speechless


I went to their web site, and Halcion is not listed. Was this some time ago?????

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#909127 - 07/17/09 10:46 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: HottieAt50]
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give me a break..all i said was that seroquel was not a good med for me..and i told manic maiden that my post was not meant for her..so lighten up would ya..


Edited by ANGEL2 (07/17/09 10:47 PM)

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#909161 - 07/18/09 05:26 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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Although I prefer Ambien, I don't have any right now and don't feel like going to the doctor's office.

What I DO have is 100mg Lyrica pills. A ton of the things. If I've had 4 or 5 nights in a row where I can't sleep or wake up at 2:00 am, I take one of the 100 mg Lyrica and I am asleep until 5:00 am. It's wonderful. I don't do it very often because it does leave kind of hung-over feeling. It's hard to explain, but you may find yourself asleep again a few hours after you get up, if you are sitting still watching tv. If you are moving around you are fine, but sit down and you could be right back asleep!

My PM clinic wanted me to take 3 of these things a day, so I had a bunch of extras, not counting the 3 or 4 bottles I threw away when I started to overflow in them. One night, when my sciatic nerve was really hurting I decided to take one and that was a side effect; a great night's sleep. So they are my sleeping pills now, although only about 1 a week.

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#909521 - 07/19/09 08:36 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ANGEL2]
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Originally Posted By: ANGEL2
give me a break..all i said was that seroquel was not a good med for me..and i told manic maiden that my post was not meant for her..so lighten up would ya..


I need to apologise to you as I misread your post. I thought you meant something other than what you said, so sorry about that

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#909532 - 07/19/09 09:09 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: HottieAt50]
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thats ok.all is well now.i am also so very sorry for the plight you are in and will say a prayer that some kind of positive answer will come your way. angel

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#912082 - 07/28/09 03:31 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Originally Posted By: a7xjoshr
ok a few years back i was prescribed by a dumbass dr seroquel for sleeping and not till a went to a new doc he told me that that was absolutly absured ao he prescribed me trazodone, but i really dont like how it makes me feel, im looking into ambian a bit, but does anyone else have any suggjestions?


I have tried alot of sleep meds and I have terrible dreams on most sleep aids. Well zanax works for me I thing I am a hyper person that cannot shut my brain thinking all the time so it helps. anythings else I have tried gives me dreams that I literally have to be restrained.

I have never heard this so I may be a freak case but to answer you question with my knowlege.

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#914242 - 08/03/09 03:33 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: tumorman]
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seroquel will knock u out --but its an antipsycotic which leaves u with a brain dead hangover---i liked trazadone 100mg but all xanax does is make me feel good and doesnt put me to sleep

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#914244 - 08/03/09 03:38 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: riverboat]
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Originally Posted By: riverboat
Originally Posted By: clarkey00
You can get Halcion 0.125mg(Triazolam) Brand name - at Toprxsavings.com for a good price, The only problem with Toprx are their shipping prices.. speechless


I went to their web site, and Halcion is not listed. Was this some time ago?????


if u use toprx u deserve what u get--i got worthless .25 halcion where the real one would put me to sleep 10 of the bumkdid nothing--i cant believe these guys are still in buisness---they sell alot of worthless drugs and i know cas i used them when they were good and shipping was35 bux with 4 day delivery--good riddence if thats all you can find---ps halcion is vite b12


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#914815 - 08/04/09 08:40 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: travelman]
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Travelman,
I am not familiar with the IOP toprxsavings, but I did try
Upjohn's Halcion 0.25 mg. tabs from the former IOP (May 2008)
www.medicinegallery.com and I was very, very disappointed in the Halcion. I took one, and felt nothing, later, took "3 at a time" and only felt "slightly dizzy with blurry vision" but I was not sleepy, but frustrated. I was also disappointed in another blister pack product they carried "Roche Valium 10 mg."
as they contained diazepam, but were "watered down" a good bit!
I have tried many sedatives, hypnotics, benzo's, anti-psychotics, like many of you, for insomnia, and I always go back to "Trazodone 100 mg" I take about 1 hr prior to bedtime, I always have a next morning hangover, even after ten years of use, 85 to 90% of the time. I move up to 150 mg. if I am really struggling, but have to allow more time next morning to
"wake up out of my zombie state". I have also tried, Seroquel,
100 to 200 mg. and it is very, very effective in putting me to sleep, and keeping me asleep, but the next day hangovers, IMHO, lasted the one half of the entire day. I understand, the body gets used to this within a few wks or more, but, I wasn't patient enough to stick with them. Finally, I tried Roche Dormicum 15 mg. (midazolam), and these pills frightened me, I felt nothing, then, like 35 to 40 minutes later, I would just
pass out (with no warning, or maybe 1 or 2 minutes at best, &
they were "knock out pills" but I would awaken after 3 or 4 hrs, and they failed to keep me asleep. I twice experienced some sleepwalking episodes, strange eating habits,(evidence next day in kitchen, or had "amnesia" once talking on phone, and I threw the pills out, (at least 30 to 40 tabs) as I didn't trust myself taking them (living alone). I've seen Halcion on occasion on IOP's but they are very expensive, and I am gunshy of losing more money on them, if the Halcion are "watered down" good-looking fakes? Also, benzo's make me feel good, or help me relax, but are not effective in putting me to asleep for 8 hrs. Again, the benzo "Dormicum (midazolam) did not "feel like a benzo" but was a "knock out Mickey Finn type" pill for me.

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#915902 - 08/08/09 12:14 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Ludes_Vet]
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My psych has me taking 4, which would be 1.0 mg. The max I read is 2 mg. You have to be relaxing for it to work. I sometimes take melatonin with the halcion to help a bit. He's offered to up the dosage, but I dont' want to get tolerant to it. I might take him up on his offer next visit.
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#917308 - 08/12/09 08:59 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: HottieAt50]
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Did ya ever try Lyrica? My doc subscribed it for fibro. It makes me sleepy so I only take it at night.

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#917498 - 08/12/09 05:36 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: sadie9]
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HottieAt50 have you ever tried Mirtazapine? 1/4-1/2 of a 15mg tablet melting under the tongue puts me to sleep, when all else has failed me.
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#918830 - 08/16/09 08:20 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: pillar]
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Okay so I know I'll get some flack for this but I came across an herbal sleep aid. It's suppose to be good. I try to alternate between Lunesta and herbal sleep aids. I have tried Somulin which had good results but it's not good for when ur under high stress. You have to be calm when you take it. Now I've discovered Lunexor and it sounds good. Put in an order and will report back on quality. Check out their site and scroll down to the testimonials. www.lunexor.com/


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#918853 - 08/16/09 10:20 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Americanpop]
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Phenibut is not herbal; melatonin is a hormone. Hops is herbal though. At least these substances are known to work. The other ingredients probably won't do anything, but they do list them clearly.

You may be able to purchase the 3 main ingredients separately, which may work out cheaper; you may find that you don't need all 3 and can fiddle with the amounts of each.

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#919115 - 08/17/09 07:48 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: nephro]
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Originally Posted By: nephro
Phenibut is not herbal; melatonin is a hormone. Hops is herbal though. At least these substances are known to work. The other ingredients probably won't do anything, but they do list them clearly.

You may be able to purchase the 3 main ingredients separately, which may work out cheaper; you may find that you don't need all 3 and can fiddle with the amounts of each.

If Phenibut is not an herb or hormone then what is it?

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#919166 - 08/17/09 11:14 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Americanpop]
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Synthetic chemical?

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#919530 - 08/19/09 06:11 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: nephro]
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Phenibut can be some nasty stuff because the quality varies. You do build a tolerance to it. It is possible if you get the good stuff and take to much that you will sleep on and off for days.

Never ever take phenibut in non capsule forum. I have sensitive teeth and you can feel the acidity. It feels like it takes off the enamel of my teeth. Nasty tasting stuff anyway. It Feels real weird brushing your teeth after taking a spoon full of phenibut.

I stopped experimenting with that stuff. When i developed what can best be described as a ulcer like condition that lasted for days. I still have some but I am afraid to take it.

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#920183 - 08/20/09 08:13 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: lilstraw]
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Just got my order of Lunexor today will report back on quality later

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#920187 - 08/20/09 08:22 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Originally Posted By: a7xjoshr
ok a few years back i was prescribed by a dumbass dr seroquel for sleeping and not till a went to a new doc he told me that that was absolutly absured ao he prescribed me trazodone, but i really dont like how it makes me feel, im looking into ambian a bit, but does anyone else have any suggjestions?


My husband was also prescribed Trazadone a few years back and he didn't really care for it either....I personally have found that Xnax help me sleep.....even though I am forever more waiting until midnight to take one.....but when I do, I go right to sleep.......I am suppose to take 2 .05 a day for anxiety, but I normally just wait and take 1 at night to help me sleep and that does the trick (most of the time) Honestly, if it weren't for Xanax, I probably would not get but a couple of hours of sleep per night......Even with the Xanax, I only get around 5-6 hours because I forget to take it early enough.

Good luck to you and hoping you will find a med. that works for you.
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#920194 - 08/20/09 08:56 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Okay so I took one and 20minutes later I'm already feeling drowsy. It's a natural feeling drowsiness and not a prescription drug drowsy feeling. I like it already. Will report back with more info.

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#920195 - 08/20/09 08:57 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: lilstraw]
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Originally Posted By: lilstraw
Phenibut can be some nasty stuff because the quality varies. You do build a tolerance to it. It is possible if you get the good stuff and take to much that you will sleep on and off for days.

Never ever take phenibut in non capsule forum. I have sensitive teeth and you can feel the acidity. It feels like it takes off the enamel of my teeth. Nasty tasting stuff anyway. It Feels real weird brushing your teeth after taking a spoon full of phenibut.

I stopped experimenting with that stuff. When i developed what can best be described as a ulcer like condition that lasted for days. I still have some but I am afraid to take it.

It's in capsules so I think this is ok.

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#920670 - 08/22/09 06:20 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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ok a few years back i was prescribed by a dumbass dr seroquel for sleeping and not till a went to a new doc he told me that that was absolutly absured ao he prescribed me trazodone, but i really dont like how it makes me feel, im looking into ambian a bit, but does anyone else have any suggjestions?


That's a great question. My DR prescribed seroquel as well. And while it does work it knocks me out into a deep sleep. So I asked to be switched and they prescribed Trazodone which doesn't work at all, just makes me feel groggy the night I take it and the next day. I asked to be prescribed Ambien.

Benzos do not put me to sleep at all.

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#920876 - 08/22/09 09:36 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Just wanted to say I slept well with the Lunexor. I'll alternate between it and the Lunesta but overall it's an excellent alternative.

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#924623 - 09/02/09 12:00 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Americanpop]
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Remeron works great for me. I dont feel groggy in the morning either. Its also classified as an anti depressant so your Dr will probably write you a Rx if you ask.

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#925055 - 09/03/09 05:58 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: imagenetic2935]
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Originally Posted By: imagenetic2935
Remeron works great for me. I dont feel groggy in the morning either. Its also classified as an anti depressant so your Dr will probably write you a Rx if you ask.


Another vote for mirtazapine.
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#925074 - 09/03/09 07:21 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: stressedout]
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No benzo puts me to sleep either anymore. Ambien CR doesn't work as well as the regular one. Trazodone helps a little but I do feel like I was clubbed in the morning.

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#925730 - 09/04/09 05:19 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: pillar]
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Originally Posted By: pillar
Originally Posted By: imagenetic2935
Remeron works great for me. I dont feel groggy in the morning either. Its also classified as an anti depressant so your Dr will probably write you a Rx if you ask.


Another vote for mirtazapine.


Well, I'm a vote for no.
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#926103 - 09/05/09 04:24 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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Zanaflex always knocks me out. The generic (tizanidine) is not expensive and readily available. It is short acting, though, so sometimes I am up in the middle of the night but it is perfect if I need to grab an hour or two in the afternoon.

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#936719 - 09/29/09 11:46 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: waterbaby]
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i am thinking of asking my pdoc to try restoril aka temazepam. I have tried, ambien, sonata, lunesta, Halcion, Seroquel, tradazone but none of those well except sometimes the ambien and halcion seemed to do anyting. what do you think? anyone have any experiences with temazepam?


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#936824 - 09/30/09 09:41 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: zachleez]
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I have not found restoril to work well for sleep. I would suggest zanaflex as the poster above has.
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#938374 - 10/03/09 12:40 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: cleo911]
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hmm well i got my doc to prescribe me 60 30mg restoril and i took 2 and i fell asleep and woke up rested! only odd thing is i felt out of it all day to much benzo im guessing. would Soma be better for sleep than zanaflex

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#938377 - 10/03/09 12:48 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: zachleez]
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He prescribed 60mg nocte?

Try taking 1 pill!

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#939165 - 10/04/09 11:19 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: PharmaKarma]
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I just got a script for Trazadone. Hubby says I'm zonked out on it. Hung over feeling but I'm only on day 3 or 4 and I missed a day. Tried xanax, midazolam both work but not for long periods. Benadryl gave me cotton mouth. Tried zopiclone but didn't do much.
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#940663 - 10/07/09 05:10 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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i take trazodone 50mg's at night for sleep with 5 mg's -1mg along with it..i would like to know if anyone can or knows how it should be taken..should i have food with it or not..i am wondering if i would have a better sleep if taken on an empty stomach. thanks for any info..angel..i forgot to add that it is xanax that i take with the traz..


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#940691 - 10/07/09 06:23 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ANGEL2]
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I like to take seroquel 150mg 1 hr before bedtime and also it helps to keep me very calm and tolerent of some of the complete dicks that all of us often encounter on a daily basis.
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#941218 - 10/08/09 08:11 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: StuntGoat]
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How about Restoril..Temazepam..30mg Novataris SP?
Those any good? Would like to try but seem like they are just another benzo. Lunesta worked great but they were $6.00
a pill (Got samples..) but had a nasty aftertaste.
Seconal worked great but hard to get a script for those..

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#941230 - 10/08/09 08:35 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Anybody know of a good place to buy Halicon???

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#941351 - 10/09/09 04:51 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: riverboat]
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Anybody know of a good place to buy Halicon???

Toprxsavings is a good place to buy Halcion from, I think they charge $16 for 30 Blistered brand Halcion, The only sting is their shipping prices (DHL or FEDEX Etc).

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#941386 - 10/09/09 08:35 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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[quote=riverboat]Anybody know of a good place to buy Halicon???

Toprxsavings is a good place to buy Halcion from, I think they charge $16 for 30 Blistered brand Halcion, The only sting is their shipping prices (DHL or FEDEX Etc). [/quote

Thanks, clarkey00...I went on the site, but they only offer Ambien. Am I not doing something right????]

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#941905 - 10/10/09 11:55 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Rochelle5mg]
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Originally Posted By: Rochelle5mg
How about Restoril..Temazepam..30mg Novataris SP?
Those any good?
They work great for some people.
Most people tend to develop a tolerence fairly quickly though.

Many insomniacs find one tablet will work good for a while and then find they have to change to another type.I think the less you can take a sleeping tab the better they will work when you do take one.

As a lifetime insomniac, I know that's easier said then done.

I have found temazepam to be very good for one off use, but not for long term use.
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#941920 - 10/10/09 12:51 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: bnudy]
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Originally Posted By: bnudy
Halcion. upjohn17.

What do you mean by upjohn17?????

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#941935 - 10/10/09 01:01 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: riverboat]
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Halcion are marked Upjohn 17 - (Triazolam) Benzos for sleep..

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#941938 - 10/10/09 01:02 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: pillar]
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For short term insomia I found 1000mg of Chloral Hydrate works great. I was sleeping 2 hours a night for a month, making me a zombie at work. We tried the ativan then ambien (did not work at all for me). Finally he perscribed a weeks worth of chloral, I used it for 2 nights, broke the no sleep pattern and finally I was able to get back to my 6 1/2 to 7 hours a night. Sometimes old school works the best.
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#942103 - 10/10/09 07:44 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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Halcion are marked Upjohn 17 - (Triazolam) Benzos for sleep..

Thanks, Clarkey, but can't seem to find any place that offers halcion. GRRRR!

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#942213 - 10/11/09 04:57 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: riverboat]
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Toprxsavings.com sells them, 30 count x 0.25mg for $16..

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#953363 - 11/01/09 11:32 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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I use Xolnox 10 mg and be very happy with the result

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#954083 - 11/02/09 11:21 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: ]
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If needed, the occasional Temazepam 30mg works for me. I stress "occasional." I don't think any pill will work on a long term basis due to tolerance.

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#954136 - 11/03/09 12:56 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: EndGame]
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Temazepam tends to give me nightmares and I wake up with Neck pain.. Dormicum (Midazolam) works great, especially if sleep meds don't work well for you.. It's too bad here in the U.S doctors only use it for sedation and I think it's only offered in IV liquid form?? I can see how there is an abuse potential with this med, because it is very strong.. When I was traveling over Europe and needed some sleep medication, my friends doctor gave me a script for the remaining days of the trip. My PCP was surprised they had that medication in pill form and was used generally for sleeping in some parts of Europe.. Just Curious.. Do they still prescribe Seconal?? I haven't heard of anyone being prescribed this med in a long time especially any barbituates.. benzo's and hypnotics have taken over for awhile now....
I hope everyone has a great weekend and awesome sleep!!


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#960349 - 11/11/09 11:46 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: louis76]
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louis76,
Regarding "Seconal" a/k/a red devils....Eli Lilly & Co. sold the manufacturing rights to Ranbaxy Pharma, who earlier
this year licensed Marathon Pharmaceuticals to manufacture the
100 mg. secobarbital, using the tradename "Seconal". They have been around for fifty+ years, but have been quite rare in the USA for the past two decades. Beware, the price has increased substantially, now that Marathon is producing the potent capsules. Average Wholesale Price $468.75 for a bottle of 100 capsules. Source REDBOOK 2009 edition Pharmacy's Fundamental Reference. I have never heard of Seconal offered online anywhere. It historically was marketed only in the USA, Canada, U.K. & Ireland. (Eli Lilly, later Flynn Pharma)
Regarding "Halcion" by Upjohn/Pfizer......it is offered online in either 0.125mg or 0.25 mg. with IOP www.igloorx.com
I haven't tried them.... has anyone out there tried the Halcion from Igloo? (.125mg. x 30 for $58.80)

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#960642 - 11/12/09 01:44 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Ludes_Vet]
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There is no way I would pay the price for seconal, but I would love to find a reputable source for halcion. It puts me out like a light in no time. I have never heard of Igloo? If you have a reputable online source for Halcion I would appreciate a little info. Thank you.
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#960648 - 11/12/09 01:52 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: clarkey00]
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I just checked that websight, they say they don't have them. when I typed the URL, it came up as Palmira drugstore. Is it something you have to ask for specifically, and are they reliable?
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#960658 - 11/12/09 02:21 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Ludes_Vet]
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Wow, not only is ther registration closed, but they don't even have a contact us link for email. I've been looking for halcion forever! If you know of any other reputable source, I would be very greatful!
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#960664 - 11/12/09 02:30 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: E_Ward]
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I've used tamazepam, ambien, OTCs, and benzos. Personally temazepam never really worked that well for me and I was prescribed max dose of it for about a year. Ambien worked the best, but i built a tolerance and the drs won't give more the 10mg a night and don't want you using it every night anyway. I found myself getting one 10mg per night from doctor and then buying from NROPs (before RHA) so I could supplement to reach 20 mg per night. That worked perfect.

None of the OTCs work for me. Meletonin helped me years ago, but only the higher grade. the cheap ones with identical ingredients on bottle never worked as well. None work for me now. Benzos work best for me now.

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#960665 - 11/12/09 02:30 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: zoomster]
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I've never tried Halcion. Do most people prefer this over Ambien? I might need to try.

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#960670 - 11/12/09 02:44 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: zoomster]
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About 8 years ago, my Dr. gave me Zyban to help me stop smoking. It worked gteat and I did quit smoking but I could not go to sleep. It got so bad, I was given Halcion and I loved it. Put me right to sleep. He would only give me a months supply and took me off the Zyban. I started smoking again and still do. I know, bad girl LOL.
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#960674 - 11/12/09 02:52 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Khilee]
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Khilee, you better hope nephro does not read your post!
Seriously, I was at my inlaws and could not sleep for anything and my sister inlaw gave me Halcion - I slept like a baby. But to keep on topic, it's Ambien for me.
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#960676 - 11/12/09 02:56 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Khilee]
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Originally Posted By: Khilee
About 8 years ago, my Dr. gave me Zyban to help me stop smoking. It worked gteat and I did quit smoking but I could not go to sleep. It got so bad, I was given Halcion and I loved it. Put me right to sleep. He would only give me a months supply and took me off the Zyban. I started smoking again and still do. I know, bad girl LOL.
Khilee


heh naughty !

oh about the halcion never tried, ambien works and other benzo for me like xanax and val
i sleep walk a little tho so that can be a pain sometimes.


Edited by DrStickybuds (11/12/09 02:58 PM)
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#960678 - 11/12/09 03:01 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: DrStickybuds]
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Have you always been a sleepwalker? I heard of folks doing crazy things while on Ambien.

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#960679 - 11/12/09 03:04 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Ballerina59]
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@ballerina
Yeah ive had it a while, depends on how long im awake the day before usually. Only fell down the stairs one time. that really sucked waking up falling down the steps frown
Oh well least i havent fallen out the windows yet haha frown

blah heh
usually happens when ive been up like 40-72 hours in a row. its like i know im gonna sleepwalk then!
i tied myself to the bed onetime not kiddin



Edited by DrStickybuds (11/12/09 03:09 PM)
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#960800 - 11/12/09 05:16 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: DrStickybuds]
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DrStickybuds, you were very lucky not to have been seriously injured. I forgot to add in my last post, I now take Dalmane for sleep. It is a hypnotic benzo. They work very well for me.
Khilee

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#960899 - 11/12/09 06:47 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Ballerina59]
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Originally Posted By: Ballerina59
Khilee, you better hope nephro does not read your post!


He already has. Khilee, STOP!

I went on a sports tour as a kid and stayed in a boarding school with the rest of the team. A couple of us decided to creep into the girls' dorm one night, and unfortunately got caught half way into a game of strip poker. Our excuse was already prepared when we got reported to our team manager following morning: "Somnambulism".

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#960902 - 11/12/09 06:49 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Khilee]
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I take ambien for sleep and it works pretty good for me. I do hate the fact that when ever I take it I can not remember anything that goes on during the night. My daughter has come and woke me up and asked me if she could use my car and when I wake up to go to work it is gone and thank God I have gotten a hold of her but I told her no more deals during the night. My work also called and asked if I could come in and I told them yes and did not remember. It really freaky. I have always had a good memory even when I drink but to totally not remember kinda bothers me. I guess there would not be a problem if people would just let me sleep when it is time to sleep.

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#963045 - 11/15/09 09:15 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: pnfree]
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I have that problem horribly with the regular ambien, but the cr works great. I'm on a rotation of meds so I don't get too tolerant. The CR won't put me to sleep, but will keep me there and the Halcion will put me to sleep but not keep me there. I finally asked the doc if I could take them together and he said sure,. I also have major anxiety about just going to sleep, so I can take an ativan with my amnbien. I never take all three, I'd like to wake up sometime, ya know?
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#963088 - 11/15/09 11:44 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: Sweetz]
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hi sweetz,

yeah -- you can take ativan with ambien. ativan should make you tired and the ambien makes you sleep.

ambien definitely effects short term memory and i can't take it as i do insane things and don't remember that i did them. left my apartment once and fell on the sidewalk (in nyc, no less). rescued by a doorman and when i woke up i remembered nothing. couldn't figure out how my knees were skinned -- until the doorman asked if i was alright. very embarrassing.
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#963092 - 11/15/09 11:50 AM Re: something for sleep [Re: recruiterlo]
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Try Trazadone. It's an old anti-depressant used primarily these days for sleep. It is not a controlled substance or narcotic and will be prescribed by virtually any doctor. It helps you to fall asleep and stay asleep - the two main problems people have with sleep. Usual dose is 50-150 mg at time of sleep.

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#963101 - 11/15/09 12:10 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Timmbo]
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trazadone put me in the hospital -- it was the worst. just not for me -- obviously reactions on meds are different for everyone.
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#963196 - 11/15/09 03:51 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: recruiterlo]
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If you're not tolerant, lorazepam is just about right in terms of duration of action for a sleep med, and I know someone fairly large in body mass who takes the occasional 1mg lorazepam and it's perfect for him.

In fact, he has sleep apnoea, and wakes up something like 80 times a night they found out when he had his sleep monitored, and snores like an old diesel generator. His wife says that when he takes the lorazepam, he doesn't have any sleep apnoea.

They've offered him surgery, but he refused, since he can't understand why, in his 70s, they won't just simply prescribe lorazepam. Where he gets these 'occasional' ones from, I really don't know. But I think he has a valid point, because even if his dose does have to increase, it's not like his whole life is ahead of him.

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#963232 - 11/15/09 04:26 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: nephro]
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thanks. what is the actual name of the drug as temezapam is restoril -- which hardly works. have to take nytol with it or nothing.
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#963261 - 11/15/09 05:01 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: recruiterlo]
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Hmmm...restoril always worked great for me. I used to go through about 6 wks every couple of years where I had trouble sleeping.

The doc always gave me restoril to take then.

All meds don't work the same for all people though.
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#965855 - 11/19/09 03:07 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: Stacy]
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Valiums or Soma works wonderful for insomina.

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#965857 - 11/19/09 03:08 PM Re: something for sleep [Re: tammy390]
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But as with all these meds, it's a good idea not to use them everynite.

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