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#904541 - 07/05/09 10:47 PM Favorite benzo *****
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ok i have been prescribed xanax for a year and actually have grown to enjoy it, i was wondering about other benzo's thogh, whats the differences between

Xanax
Klonopin
Valium
and Ativan

???
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#904546 - 07/05/09 11:22 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: a7xjoshr]
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well, it is a pretty addictive and abused med, so its not suprising you 'actually have grown to enjoy it'.

the difference between the benzodiazapines you mention - there are more- is that they are different chemical compounds, and some are used to treat different medical problems.
if you want to know the ins and outs - "google is your friend", as one other poster so succintly put it in a post i read yesterday. sorry, forget name. thats benzos for ya.

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#904553 - 07/06/09 12:04 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: gawrygirl]
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I will post my own personal experience despite this being the wrong place to report it. Klonopins were the strongest. Ativans took a long time to kick in, but when they did they were very effective. Valiums were weaker than xanax. Of course, my own personal opinion/experience could be compromised due to the what i ate any particular day I took the med. Also could be negatively affected due to poor mg equivalency comparison. Also, my sampling opinion took several years to develop for I don't use these meds recreationally.
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#904557 - 07/06/09 12:34 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: OPPuNOme]
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i have taken xanax,klnopin and valium and i know there are many that might disagree with me but valium has by far been the best for me it helps with anxiety with out making want to go to sleep i also suffer from ptsd and i find it really helps with my nightmares but i really think it depends on the person
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#904558 - 07/06/09 12:42 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: heydude]
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Originally Posted By: heydude
i have taken xanax,klnopin and valium and i know there are many that might disagree with me but valium has by far been the best for me it helps with anxiety with out making want to go to sleep i also suffer from ptsd and i find it really helps with my nightmares but i really think it depends on the person


works for me 2.
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#904560 - 07/06/09 12:49 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: OldandWorn]
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Personal experience:

Ativan did absolutely nothing for me. Didn't even feel it.

The difference between the other three:

Xanax is the quickest-acting and shortest half-life so it comes and goes fast. Valium takes a while to come on, but stays in your system a long time. Klonopin is somwehere in between.

I actually prefer the K-pins, because I get the wafer form, and dissolving those under my tongue helps to alleviate my anxiety just as quickly as Xanax. Valium would be my second favorite, only because of its muscle-relaxant properties that the other benzos don't share...but it does give me a hangover that I don't like. Xanax is great, just doesn't agree with my system as well for some reason. I still enjoy the way it rids me of anxiety and interrupts any kind of panic attack, though.

So the official ranking is:

1) Klonopin (clonazepam)
2) Valium (diazepam)
3) Xanax (alprazolam)
4) Ativan - not even #4, because I prefer oxazepam, flurazepam, and other exotic benzos I receive from my current source. All of those benzos do the same general thing, but feel slightly different.


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#904573 - 07/06/09 02:19 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: jskream]
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Originally Posted By: jskream
Personal experience:

Ativan did absolutely nothing for me. Didn't even feel it.

The difference between the other three:

Xanax is the quickest-acting and shortest half-life so it comes and goes fast. Valium takes a while to come on, but stays in your system a long time. Klonopin is somwehere in between.

I actually prefer the K-pins, because I get the wafer form, and dissolving those under my tongue helps to alleviate my anxiety just as quickly as Xanax. Valium would be my second favorite, only because of its muscle-relaxant properties that the other benzos don't share...but it does give me a hangover that I don't like. Xanax is great, just doesn't agree with my system as well for some reason. I still enjoy the way it rids me of anxiety and interrupts any kind of panic attack, though.

So the official ranking is:

1) Klonopin (clonazepam)
2) Valium (diazepam)
3) Xanax (alprazolam)
4) Ativan - not even #4, because I prefer oxazepam, flurazepam, and other exotic benzos I receive from my current source. All of those benzos do the same general thing, but feel slightly different.


---J


Nice post. I feel very much the same:

1) Valium (diazepam)
2) Klonopin (clonazepam)
3) Xanax (alprazolam)
4) Ativan - not even #4, because I too have almost no effect from this one and prefer to seek out anything but Ativan.

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#904598 - 07/06/09 06:24 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: PharmaKarma]
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hmmm wow not the results i expected, but i will defantly make a note on that, thanks for the info guys

wow i have like no life i check thos board like everyday lol
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#904600 - 07/06/09 06:28 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Originally Posted By: a7xjoshr

wow i have like no life i check thos board like everyday lol


SO????? Join the rest of us! LMFAO

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#904601 - 07/06/09 06:33 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: a7xjoshr]
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HELLO, I THINK GOOD-OLD VALIUM FOR ANXIETY & MIDAZOLAM FOR SLEEP doctorlove (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION - EVERYONE'S BODY IS DIFFERENT- *GENERAL DISCLAIMER* ) BUT THEY ARE ALL VERY ADDICTIVE, SO, I DO-NOT TAKE ANY BENZO EVERYDAY. dbreader

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#904612 - 07/06/09 07:51 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: CHEESE]
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Originally Posted By: CHEESE
HELLO, I THINK GOOD-OLD VALIUM FOR ANXIETY & MIDAZOLAM FOR SLEEP doctorlove (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION - EVERYONE'S BODY IS DIFFERENT- *GENERAL DISCLAIMER* ) BUT THEY ARE ALL VERY ADDICTIVE, SO, I DO-NOT TAKE ANY BENZO EVERYDAY. dbreader

GOOD LUCK, CHEESE sunny



I'd have to agree with cheese on this, Valium would be my #1 for general anxiety, and i would go for Halcion (Triazolam) for sleep IMO.

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#904628 - 07/06/09 08:58 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: clarkey00]
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I've tried every benzo I've ever heard of.

Valium and Xanax always worked best for me.
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#904640 - 07/06/09 09:37 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: Oxy80]
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Xanax is best for me, HANDS DOWN!

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#904737 - 07/06/09 01:32 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: ]
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xanax and klonopin together. Valium is just to weak.

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#904744 - 07/06/09 01:46 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: bestdad]
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Midazolam, the only one that can help me sleep, though only for a night or two and only at two or three hours a clip.

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#904751 - 07/06/09 02:03 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: OsirisX]
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Originally Posted By: OsirisX
Midazolam, the only one that can help me sleep, though only for a night or two and only at two or three hours a clip.
Do you mind me asking what dose you take?
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#905833 - 07/09/09 06:37 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: JokerOwling]
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what is Midazolam? i take trazodone for sleep and i hate it
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#905855 - 07/09/09 08:39 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Xanax for anxiety, valium for sleep work perfect for me.
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#905862 - 07/09/09 09:01 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: a7xjoshr]
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HELLO, MIDAZOLAM 7.5 MG + 15 MG TABS ARE AVAILABLE IN EVERY COUNTRY EXCEPT THE U.S. AND CANADA - IT'S A FAST METABOLIZING BENZO (THAT IS PRESCRIBE FOR SLEEP/ INSOMNIA IN MANY COUNTRIES)BUT IN THE U.S. IT IS ONLY AVAILABLE AS A INJECTABLE -USED AS A PRE- OP ANESTHETIC AGENT. (NOT AVAIABLE AT YOUR LOCAL CVS - OR WALGREENS AND NO DOCTOR IS GOING TOO PRESCRIBE IT. ) smack I IS A BENZO THAT SHOULD BE USED WITH CARE. (NOT FOR EVERYONE) sunblue

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#905865 - 07/09/09 09:12 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: CHEESE]
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a lendormin and valium for sleep is an excellent combo!

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#908598 - 07/16/09 03:37 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: thacarter3]
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#908607 - 07/16/09 04:10 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: bestdad]
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Originally Posted By: bestdad
xanax and klonopin together. Valium is just to weak.


probably because you are used to taking alprazolam. (which is much stronger in the short term, remember... 2 milligrams of ALP = 40mgs of diazepam) but if you took valium everyday (which i do not recommend), after a week or so, when reaching a good blood plasma level, i think valium would work well for you.

i like it as it works as a muscle relaxer as well. when i had a valium prescription, i did not have to take much Soma. now that my doc has me on ALP, i am back to taking Soma when the spasms are bad. in fact when i think about it, i took less valium when i had it prescribed than i currently take xanax.

i will agree though, for severe panic attacks, nothing works better than alprazolam. some will argue this point, as i believe studies do show that diazepam has the quickest onset of most benzos, but alprazolam does have a "punch" if you will, that will stop severe anxiety within a few minutes if taken sublingual. ARO 20 minutes if swallowed normally in my experience. i guess most people are different though, so body chem and metabolism can play a lot in the effects of each medication as well.

at any rate, benzos should not be taken daily unless it is a must. most people do not realize the repercussions of a decent benzo tolerance until they run out or their doc decides to stop prescribing it. at that point it is too late, unless one is responsible and taking PRN.


Edited by funkybreakz (07/16/09 04:11 PM)
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#908645 - 07/16/09 05:59 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: CHEESE]
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HELLO, MIDAZOLAM 7.5 MG + 15 MG TABS ARE AVAILABLE IN EVERY COUNTRY EXCEPT THE U.S. AND CANADA


The UK doesn't have it either.

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#909202 - 07/18/09 10:17 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: nephro]
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ok so im thinkin of switching over to valium, after reeading reviews on it but i heard that its hard to get decent quality? whats the best place to order it from? via an IOP?

PharmacityUSA
basicmeds.com

both have it, i have used basic meds and am not entirly happy with them

i have heard the roche is the best?
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#909224 - 07/18/09 12:06 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: a7xjoshr]
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Serbian sources (e-mail or web) like EuropeVendor are good for diazepam, Apaurin is a great generic but it's hard to come by at the moment (Bensedine is an ok alternative.) Another option is voguerx Terpia brand are good. I can vouch for all three brands and would rate them Apaurin, Terpia, Bensedine in that order.

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#909292 - 07/18/09 06:00 PM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: Aaron4]
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valium works the best for me. Xanax and klonopin turn me into a zombie. The downfall with valium is the fact that tolerance builds up in a matter of days. (at least for me)
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#909372 - 07/19/09 04:39 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: Jdingle]
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Zanax for sure sometimes I like valum different situations different drugs


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#909908 - 07/21/09 07:03 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: tumorman]
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I like xanax XR, but I just got a letter yesterday that my Dr. is closing his practice. I hope the doc he moves all his patients to will give me my 60 xanax a year. Not happy at all.
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#910560 - 07/23/09 02:08 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: SuzyQ64]
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Originally Posted By: SuzyQ64
I like xanax XR, but I just got a letter yesterday that my Dr. is closing his practice. I hope the doc he moves all his patients to will give me my 60 xanax a year. Not happy at all.


Bummer , Sorry to hear that this is the problem your doctor leaves town or whatever and you have to jump through all the hoops to get back to where you were. You can be on the same meds for years then bam.

I wish you luck

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#910578 - 07/23/09 05:19 AM Re: Favorite benzo [Re: tumorman]
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Believe it or not, he is going into Addiction Medicine. Ironic.
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