Hey ludes, thanks for the info, I checked the Link, but couldn't find "order form", guess I'd have to buy a hospital. Tuinal aka gorillia biscuts

i wish i had a lude right now!

Me 3...Rorer or Lemmon, someone has to have a vacuum sealed pack in safe of ludes somewhere LOL.
Or a Placidyl...I have searched for years online hoping these survived the fate of my beloved 714's. Ludes Vet have any input on red abbots still manufactured anywhere?

Seen neither Placs or Quaaludes in over 25 years. I know of no way to preserve them, BTW.

this has been my number #1 search for ten years. So what I'm getting here is....there's no way to get them in the US?

as far as I know, they were banned and production ended almost worldwide about the same time. The governments of the world did not want that many people feeling that good at the same time...who would want to go to work? I sure did not !

just wanted some loud music and whatever GF of the monment. "beans" made it ALL good...

the epidemic of fun, must have been serious to have the gov of several nations ALL want to ban the mfg of the drug.

i once had the chemical formula printed out and swore that I would hang onto that and someday find a chemist that could whip up a batch....never happened. every once in a great while someone would get the formula right and some bootleg beans were on the streets. most were garbage but sometimes there would be some fakes that were as good or better than the real deal.

LOL now that is dedication. I remember most of the boots in the early 80's appearded to be mainly diazepam which didn't really seem too bad, just missing a little of the euphoria before sleep came on. The theory of the bathtub chemists makes sense with varying qualities at different times. The one time I got Mandrax it was factory wrapped in some kind of plastic blister pack and was quite effective, OMG that was sooo long ago.

There was a plce in Canada that sold 100% pure methaqualone powder (I may have spelled that wrong). They have since gone away for a very long time.

They also sold Oxy solution. Now that I used to hear about, but have never seen it sold again. was that a one time deal made in a lab, or does someone out there actually make OXY solution?

Dumbmyco,
Reference your question to me (last month) are there any
websites that offer "Abbott Reds" (Secobarbital)? I do not know of any IOP's...sorry. I believe you mean't the former Eli Lilly Pulvule "Reds" that Ranbaxy of India were manufacturing under license to make the "Seconal"....and,
have bought the label...and consequently farmed out the production to Marathon Pharmaceuticals of Deerfield, Illinois (Effective 1-30-09) The Seconal are still available in 100 count bottles of 100 mg. "pulvule capsules"
It would have to be a NROP or ROP to handle this...a most
daunting task for a C-II! Regarding hope of finding a IOP, United Kingdom receives their "Sodium Amytal" (Blue Angels) 60 mg & 200 mg, Seconal 50 mg & 100 mg. and Tuinal
(Rainbows) in 100 mg. from Flynn Pharma of Dublin Ireland.
The 200 mg. versions of Tuinal appear to be gone forever.
Regarding the search for a hidden supply of pure Methaqualone, the last "Lemmon 714's" containing methaqualone submitted to the DEA from drug busts were in 1985. With one exception, (June 1990), every "Lemmon 714" tablet confiscated within the USA since 1990, (twenty one
separate "busts") all contained pure diazepam (Valium) in the bootleg/counterfeit market ranging from 1991 to 2006.
If anyone has a factory sealed bottle of 100 count Rorer 714's, Lemmon 714's and the rarely produced 1980 to 11/15/83
Lemmon Mequin methaqualone (embossed LMN 300, white, scored)
the owners have been extremely discreet and no-one has reported seeing any for like 25 years now....they have likely been used up IMHO. If a IOP ever shows up with a Switzerland address for shipping & receiving, maybe someone will offer the Toquilone Capsules by MedChemie. The med is extremely tightly controlled over there, and M.D.'s are weary of scripting the drug to non-Swiss citizens or non Swiss residents. I have never seen a IOP offer the Spain version "Pallidan" by Berna when it was available until 2001, and I have been lurking around the internet since 1998. Update to my post of 2/17/09.

Thanks for getting back to me and tha Abbots I was referring to were placydil round 125s. oblong 500 and 750 with APAP I believe green gel tabs. While I was married 1900-2000 I didn't keep up with the ever changing scheduling and banning of certain meds. Just the prescribed benzos and since 2000 discretely placing orders on the web off and on checking the "new ops" for the possibility of getting the relief needed from certain meds I admitedly enjoyed as a teenager. At first we would see Lemmon and Rorer at the same time, many boots and many "true" ones. This was like 1978 and then about 1980 or so no Rorers only Lemmons mostly bootleg methaquaalone some were diazepam then it was pretty much all diazepam from 1982 on. I almost forgot my buddy got his hands on just a few A/S methaquaalones the original "sopors", I am sure you remember those and I used that as a reference back then along with mandrax which noone would try to remanufacture to determine bathtub ludes from those composed entirely of diazepam. Seems like we are of similar age and experience I am just bald and older now, still work as I have since I was 13 and still play/practice in a band on Saturday night. Truly, thanks for replying with the above info and I will drop a line if any of the above shows up on my quests in search of.....
Later.

"Now they call you Prince charming...can't speak a word when you're full of ludes"
Skynyrd

it was a "research chemical" supplier, if im not mistaken

WRONG...

you've just never had enough of them on hand.

"back in the day" (70s) I did have enough of them on hand (thousands) and managed to work up a moderate habit...

when that connection came to an end I counted up what I had on hand, and GF and myself weaned ourselves off of the 'ludes over a couple of weeks or so.

but you can definitely get a physical habit on methaqualone.

work up to half a dozen+ 714s a day (plus beer to wash them down ) for a while, quit, and THEN tell me they're not addictive.

yea but now it's a black market drug

you used to get mandrax in south africa just like mexico... in the clear "fizzies" packs.

No pharmaceutical company is manufacturing Mandrax anywhere in the world today. It was always an odd combo of methaqualone and an antihistamine.
I guess the South African stuff is somehow homemade.

It is a big underground street drug in SA. And believe it or not, the most common method of usage there is to smoke the stuff

Regarding Seconal (secobarbital sodium / Marathon) C-II, it is worth noting that neither Ranbaxy nor Marathon ever actually manufactured the drug. After Eli Lilly discontinued manufacturing the "pulvules," Ranbaxy had the rights to the trade name. But the manufacturing was always outsourced to another company (Ohm Pharmaceuticals of New Jersey). Given their current design, I think just plain "capsules" would be the best way to describe them. There have been intermittent shortages of the product over the last ten years. Eli Lilly and Ranbaxy both attributed the shortages to lack of raw materials available to manufacture the product, which I considered questionable, since barbituric acid was always available, and the drug is manufactured by simple chemical substitution along the pyridamine ring.

In mid-October 2008, Marathon obtained the rights to the trade name Seconal. There was a brief period between October 2008 and February 1, 2009, where the drug was not being manufactured. However, it could probably have been obtained at a Walgreens during this period, as they had extra stock of the product.

Marathon finally announced that Seconal was available again late in January 2009. The drug is still being manufactured by Ohm -- there's no change there. In fact, the imprint on the capsule hasn't even changed. I would have thought that Marathon would have at least instructed Ohm to change the imprint!

But there was one thing that was greatly changed -- the price! Seconal, made by Ohm, and marketed by Marathon costs roughly five (yes, 5!) times more than the very same Seconal manufactured by Ohm for Ranbaxy. So, if you don't have insurance, figure on paying $250 to $300 for a prescription for sixty. If you can still find a pharmacy that has a bottle that says Ranbaxy on it, you'll probably pay about $60 for the same quantity (sixty).

My sister drove her car into her apartment. Then she called the landlard the wall just gave way for no reason..Too bad that there was paint from her car on the wall..Those were the days my friends....

Patrice

I also know by experience how addicting they can be, the only place that I read they weren't addicting was in the 1969 PDR...That PDR also claims that doriden was a safe alternative to barbituates. At that time Talwin and darvon weren't even considered narcotics. And the drug combinations dexadrine with seconal, and other wacko stuff

Patrice

Ha! I remember ludes from the early 80's. They would help "calm" you down after a night of partying. Wow, I have not even heard that word "Quaaludes" in years. The memories are ikky!

no the only place u can get mandrax is South Afrcia and that is lude mixed with antihistimine last place u could get real ludes was switezerland and they banned them in 2006 they have a chemistry mix to make them so if your a chemist you can make your own


and reading the above post we could get 20 seconal for five bux and tuinal were a buk a piece---the times they are a changing and qualudes were 5 bux apiece---yah im old

No, methaqualone in any form is highly illegal in South Africa. Strictly a street drug there now.

LOL!!!! After reading these posts, I am missing my waterbed, lava lamp, Led Zep, Hendrix, Joplin posters. Peace.

No kidding! Sounds like we are all about the same age....OLD!

seen some internet peeps reading this thread, so i thought i share a story. (a few?) years ago, i was at an unnamed university where a few of us needed Rorer 714 strictly for medical purposes only. so, someone happened to provide them. a good medical intervention at the time...

if you were there, let me know...

good med imo, sorry they ended the program...

There were also ludes with the name 'Sopers". Lemon took over for Rorer, but the 714 never changed. Those were the days!

that fuzzy ooogley googley feeling is inexplicable.

Arnar Stone made the Sopors....they named them so, because they were soporific...(sleep inducing)

Street drugs... WTF?! Are you people serious? No where I know carried such type of meds. I'm speechless... Someone asking for luudes...

Ludes are available, very expensive, but how can you put a price on reliving your youth?

Cleo911 is correct about statement that the former Mandrax mfg by
Roussel of France in the 60's/80's, withdrew Mandrax many years ago worldwide! I have the offical news from my brand new Martindale Complete drug Reference 36th edition, (pharmaceutical press) London
UK, and Chicago, Ill (USA) published in 2009 on authority of the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain, 3,694 pages of ethical meds produced in forty (40) countries. The last country that sold legal Methaqualone in the world, was Switzerland, by
MedChemie Pharma called "Toquilone Compositum" and it was withdrawn
from the Swiss marketplace in late 2006 thru early 2007. It is now
"offically a true street drug" (like Cleo911 said) as is only found
in mostly South Africa, around port cites especially like Port Elizabeth, or Durban, and is manufactured clandestine labs in rural
South Africa, some neighboring South African countries, and occasionally India, according to South African Law Enforcement, who trace the sources. Bld213 you are technically correct calling it a "street drug" but historically, like "Somuated" stated, one of many legal methaqualone marketing names in the USA was Arnar Stone "Sopor" Parke-Davis "Parest" William H Rorer "Quaalude" Lemon Pharma "Quaalude" Lemmon Pharma "Mequin" and Strasenburgh
Labs ""Akalon T" and "Biphetamine T" and Smith, Miller, & Patch
with "Somnafac Capsules" (200 mg. methaqualone). In 1972, the number 6 most popular ethical pharmaceutical in the USA was William H Rorer's brand "Quaalude" 300 mg. embossed "714" Source:
Pharmacy Times top ethical 200 prescription drugs for 1972. Source:
Pharmaceutical Data Services Inc Scottsdale AZ. In the 1968 PDR
(Physicians Desk Reference) there were 2,600 drug products, and
all forementioned methaqualone drug products were in the 1968 text.
Thus, truth is, the only tranquilizer/sedative/hypnotic/ that "outsold" Methaqualone in 1972 was the No. 1 slot "Valium" mfg
by Roche Labs, Nutley, NJ. In summary, IMHO, I see merits in all three DBF members statements...by Cleo911, bld213, and Somavated"
Perhaps the "street drug stigma was magnified by the 1980+1981
years when the Pablo Escobar gang in Colombia, South America, produced millions & millions of 100% pure Methaqualone tablets for export to the USA, resulting in records seizures in 1981 of millions of "Lemmon 714's" by the DEA, and the DEA went to Europe
to the countries who were selling the necessary chemical precursors to produce Methaqualone, thus, the "flush street market" of pure Quaaludes, disappeared literally overnight, as the late Pablo Escobar Cocaine Cartel were completely cut off from their chemical suppliers. Summarizing the original topic, there is less than a 1% chance (now) that any IOP will ever market any type of Quaalude....unless someone risks selling "bootleg jungle made methaqualone with "who knows what adultrants may be in them) from some source either from India (where Methaqualone was originally discovered as a anti-malaria drug in the 1950's) or from some IOP source from South Africa, willing to market a Schedule I drug over the internet. I think that is highly unlikely, just like other C-I
USA meds (Rohypnol) (MMDA-Ectasy...legal in the 1980's...demonized by our DEA in 1988)..........................