And you know this How? You have been on the Board for a few Days and have 3 Posts! Your gonna have to do a Little better than that! Proof Please! I have done a Little Investigating myself! I am

Who is He... Troy or Dr F?

Stevo- can I ask who you made a appt with? I'm looking. I spoke to Troy today and this has nothing to do with the IRS. He also did not file for Bankruptcy.

Well there you go....I guess he hasn't flown the coop APAININTAMPA!!

What Appointment?

Stevo- I swear I just read a post where you said you forund a new pain doc and they got you in right away. Maybe not but I sure thought I did. If I am mistaken I am so sorry. My mind must be palying tricks on me.

BTW- Dr. F has not gone missing. Yes he is in a nasty divorce but that is not new at all and has been going on for years. Not that their personal lives have anything to do with why the DEA FBI FDLE Human Ser.vices raided them. They will have their day in trial. JMO, if Dr. F was missing I think I would completely understand. They have lost everything, income, patients and reputaion. Would you want to crawl under a rock? To have a rep as a federally indicted criminal would do me in. On top of it if they get back in business and thats a huge if because of finding the income to start all over, all their patients will have moved on. Sure some will be loyal enough to come back, but not all. And will the insurance companies want to put them back on their plans with allegations like fraud against them?

jj ....Nope.... I have Not gone anywhere else! .....I Gave Up!...I am done.... Unless I can Find a Doc in my State and not through an F2F/OCS as they will Evidentially get closed down!!....My Life is destined to be in Pain and on Tramadol and Soma until the DEA takes that away from me! I Prey and Hope Dr F and Troy get out of this Mess!!!....But it will Probably take a Long Long Time ....If Ever!

Stevo1 - I guess you did not read the first line of my post where I clearly stated that "I talked to two people who know Dr. Freidlander and Troy Wubbena (the Physicians Assistant) well today." when you stated in your post "you know this How?" I did not know that it was my obligation to provide back up documentation for things that were told to me by someone else. But, because of your stated that I "have to do a Little better than that! Proof Please!" I did basic internet searches today. This is what I found

1 Troy Wubbena was previosuly arrested on 2-10-2008 for two Felonies (UNLICENSED PRACTICE OF HEALTH CARE PROFESSION and UTTERING A FORGED INSTRUMENT) and was still out on bail when he got arrested again on 4-6-2009 with 13 more felonies.
Go to this link for his arrest record on the intial felonies: http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/online/qdisp/bn=08009195

2 Troy Wubbena does have a 103,184.26 tax lein from his personal taxes for his property in Miami. Go to this link and type in Wubbena, Troy http://www.miami-dadeclerk.com/public-records/pubsearch.asp

3 Jeffrey Friedlander violated the conditions of his bail on 4-16-2009, which caused him to have his license suspended and probably explains his disappearance as he was most likely re arrested. Please go to this link: http://www.dadehealth.org/public/PUBLICnewsarticle.asp?newsID=1666&typeID=&news_type=Press+Releases

4 Jeffrey Friedlander is in a very nasty divorce. Please go to this link. Click on Guest Access and then type in Jeffrey Friedlander. https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/login/loginx.jsp?goto=/officialrec/officialrec/DMDAInput.jsp

While I cannot find the proof of Troy Wubbenas bankruptcy filing, that is only because new bankruptcy applications are not public records.

I have now provided the PROOF. I do not know why the people on this board are so protective of Jeffrey Friedlander, M.D. and Troy Wubbena P.A.. I understand that "jjmay" aka xxxname from xxxcompnay works for an IME company that probably referred people to Dr. Friedlander and therefore has a vested interest in standing up for him. I personally am very upset with them as I paid good, hard earned money to see a doctor who could prescribe me the appropriate medications only to find out that my money was wasted, in effect stolen, as the prescriptions I received were worthless.

Stevo1, you seem to ridicule me because I have only posted three times, now 4. I came onto this board seeking advise and guidence only after the problem with Dr. Friedlander and no one else could answer my questions. I do not have the time, as I have a job and a life, to post thousands of times a year. I am not obsessed (you post every day, 17 times just yesterday). It is a shame that you would stick up for a doctor that screwed us by not keeping good records and giving out blank, pre-signed prescriptions, then ridicule me who was the victim of Neurology and Pain Centers.

I have no vested intrest Apain in Dr. F. Why would I ever put my business in jeopardy by working with a guy that would hold a practice like that. Are you kidding me?? I just know the truth. And no, he never did work for me.And please take my personal info off your post no matter how angry you are at the situation I am sure you would not want your info posted on this very public board. Thanks.

APAININTAMPA....You have Totally Broken the Rules By Posting jjmay's Personal INFO!! How would you like Your Personal Info Posted up here!
Also Everything you Posted is Just Personal History and No Proof what so Ever! I Never Attacked you I just Asked for Proof ...Which you Did Not Supply!
You should be Banned/Deleted!
Stevo

This situation is sort of strange...
You never posted and come to post all the bad news you can find and the other people that have great things to say about Dr. F... never posted about him before either

The main problem with Dr. F is that he associated with some vary shady OCS's that among other things liked to promote using our PM system and were always telling people this was to be kept secret and off the boards or the whole things would go bust... well maybe they were right and there was something to hide...

As you can see, with similar services, the Dr. that was mentioned all the time and even posts here is doing fine and the secretive one with the shills that do not want any publicity is in trouble...

We are pretty sure everything will work our in favor of Dr. F and we wish him and his associates the best of luck

Admin, Do you know what OCS's he was working with?

I think I saw something about Neurology something, which I had never seen on the board. Were the others, that were just not on the board?

Thanks

jjmay - Just for the record, I did not post anything that you did not already post. In a previous post on this same thread, which the administrator has now removed, you asked Stevo1 to contact you outside of this board and it had your personal e-mail address on it. Your personal e-mail address had your first name (please note that I did not supply your last name, even though I now know it) and the name of the IME company of which you are the President and in charge of physician recruitment. Stevo1, you might want to suggest that jjmay be banned for posting her personal information, I only copied what she has already posted.

First, Dr. F was only connected to one OCS and that is Your E health.

I have never kept it secret that I own a med fraud company. Also, I have never kept secret that sevral physicians that do do work for me are also OCS doctors. As well a lot of the doctors are surgeons and own medi spas at all the same time.

If this same thing happens to any of the other 20 doctors I work and now know personally with that also work with OCS's I am sure I would know the inside information as well and would provide what I could. Why did I become a schill? Because I know al most every doctor that works with the OCS's. For that matter Ive been around the boards for almost 10 years now and know almost every owner as well. How could I be a schill? I cannot even PM and if you look at any of my posts I have never once recommened Dr. F. I just don't get it. I have so much information that can be helpful to everyone but anytime I post anything I get jumped on and am accused of doing something wrong.

RE: Dr. F- The info you posted was prior to the current arrest. This was nothing new. From my experineces and knowledge Dr F and team were very thourough group of physicians. Also, what is in it for me to stick up for them. I have nothing to do with their drug bust and neither does my business. We don't deal at all with pharmaceuaticals only people who try to screw the system and eventually get caught.

APAIN- I never jumped on you and am not sure why you have anger towards me since I gave the board first hand knowledge not information from someone who has talked to them.

I have just one other comment in regards to what admin said. Awhile back when I spoke with Dr. F and friends not one was aware of this board. I was the one who told him people were talking about them and they were surprised. Most his employees in his offices did not know he even did telemed as it was handled by one employee and through Your E. They never asked anyone to promote their services. If they were so shady why did they stop doing teleconsults way before the April 15 deadline. Most of their telemed patients had already had their F2F at least a month or two or three before that.

Just facts.

Hi everyone.. I too had went for my F2F with drF in Feb,I had a very complete and long exam and found the whole staff and team there very kind and caring, I personally never saw any foul play but who knows in this day and age of what was going on behind closed doors, the staff at the desk really was very in the dark about the whole telemed system and had to refer to Troy as to who sent me, I was so upset and shocked when i first heard the news of drf and his teams situation ,and for me flying was a terrifing ordeal , but I cant do anything about the past and have found a dr in my area (thank god)and can get some help , so no more flying for me ,,,Its such a shame that this is happening to us all and I thought i found a great dr when i saw drf and really wish he was still in practice ,sigh....i really do hope the dr and his team get through this because they really did seem to care for people in chronic pain,i will miss them,,, take care everyone sincerely Faith

APAININTAMPA..... I understand your frustration! Yes I went and Did the F2F with Dr F and... Just Like Faith ....It was Much More Through then My Neuro Surgeon in my home state! I am just like you...... Out a lot of Money Also ....Never got my Refills and have had to go without my Meds!!..... Your Anger is being placed in the wrong Direction!!....These Doc's were Caring Compassionate Doc's! They didn't want this to happen to their Patients! They Didn't do this to Us! If you want to Blame someone for what happened to these Doc's ...Blame it on the Abusers of the System....Weather it be Slimy Pain Clinics like jjmay Posted about or it be Busloads of people going to Florida and Seeing Multiple Slimy PM docs and going back home and filling all their Scripts and Selling the Meds all over their Towns! ....And The DEA!!!
And Most Definitely Do Not Believe Everything you see in the Media!
Lastly we all have our Baggage!
I am sure I could Dig up some on You Just like you could Dig up some On ME! So Please Put your Anger in the Right Place and Forgive Me if you felt that I attacked you. It was Not my Intention!
I wish Dr F and Troy and their Staff the Best!!!....They Were the Best thing that happened to Me in Years!!!...Even though it did only last 1 Month for Me!
I hope and Pray that Someway they will come out on Top of all this CRAAP!!
Peace
Stevo

I believe he was also connected to OCS, MdHotline as well.

He was with two OCS atleast. MD was certainly one of them.

Atapma let me commend you on your research skills! I didnt see not do I car to see jmays info but you did one hell of a job answering some questions about Dr F and Troy. Good post IMO.

Good cons ALWAYS seem to care about people more than money. Just remember some care salesmen you've met. THEY are the reason the government went after them. The DEA does their job, although sometimes a bit overzealous like the LE, I have to admit that when there is a problem and I see the police coming, I am very relieved.

Secondly, that information that was given is a matter of public record, so I don't see where Rules were broken. From what I see, these guys were a couple of sleazes who thought they would outwit not only the public, but the law. Don't work that way.

As for getting the pills you need, with all the money you've spent (after reading your posts, Stevo), wouldn't it be cheaper to buy health insurance? This unorthodox method of treating yourself has lead you down a desperate road to nowhere, except that you are lauding common criminals.

It's not unlike the praises that used to be handed out for that huckster snake oil salesman, Chris Larsen. Personally, I don't do business with people that have felonies, no matter how sweet they are. They'll take every buck they can get when you're not looking. That's why they are (were) in jail.

Enough of this "no one cares about us people in chronic pain" baloney. It simply isn't true. I know because I've been living it now for some time and have had no problem when a condition truly exists. I have had to change my lifestyle completely (the hardest part) and learn to accept it (the second hardest part). The whining stopped a long time ago--there are a lot of people far worse off than I. I was blessed to get health insurance.

THAT'S the REAL crime here. Health care in business--it is not about medical treatment.

So why aren't we going after the AMA?

kserah....You are SOOOOO off Base here! Did you forget that I have Insurance!.....State Insurance!....It is Probably the Best Insurance in the Nation! I don't even see the Bills!! When I had My 5 1/2 Hour Shoulder Surgery and went to PT for 2 Years for it....I never even saw the Bill!! I don't get Bills for My MRI's or the PM doc that Gives me Epidural's and Facet Injections!! They will Do Almost anything to treat my Pain without giving Me Narcotics!!! Do you Really think I should Have my 3 Herniated Discs in my Neck Fused? Not to Mention the Ones in my Lower Back! Should I keep Spending My States $$$ for These Band-Aid Tests and Injections? How Much is Too Much Steroid Injections? And No I can't seem to Find a Doc in my Area to Treat Me Properly and With The Respect That I Need!! It is all about $$$ For these Doc's TOO!!!
Jeeze!
If You are Sick of My Posts ....Put me on Ignore or Notify Admin!

I am Done Defending Myself!
Stevo

I was wrong. Dr. F was associated with 1 other OCS. MDhotline. In the last year though he had only done a handful of exams through them.

Kserah,

I have noticed you make posts like this several times recently. I am very glad you are able to get the pain relief you need, but that is not the case everywhere.
To imply, or state that if your condition is real you will get adequate relief is really not fair to many here.

The University Of Mississippi Medical School, the only one in the state, issues the official opinion that narcotic pain relief is only appropriate for chronic pain patients if they are terminal, with less than 6 months to live. That leaves most cancer patients, people with Lupus, diabetes, back issues, and many other conditions out in the cold.

ER's in the state have posters stating if you are seen for pain issues more than once in a 6 month period you will not be treated with narcotic pain relievers, they will be treating your pain with non-addictive alternatives.

I've had this condition and pain for several years, but no health insurance, so I do indeed know what it is like to be without--it is hell. The problem was not that I didn't have the condition, it was that the medical community is a BUSINESS community, not dealing with people.

The only way I finally got the relief I needed was when I collapsed, spent a week in the hospital, was told I had an irreversible terminal condition, to go home and get my affairs in order and if I go more than 18 months I'm a lucky dog.

In other words, the only way people can get what they need is if they are dying. That is pathetic, but blaming the DEA is inane. They are little robots who want to keep their civil service jobs and pension.

It is the AMA that needs to me hit up hard and where in the hell is the "Hypocritical Oath" in all of this? I realize that you may not have know my entire saga, but please do't be patronizing. I have gone through hell like the rest of you, but even then I used common sense and generally got what if NEEDED--not always what I wanted.

And if I'm not feeling as much pain it is because I am losing oxygen to the brain. I'm up to 6mil 24/7 and feel pretty daffy most of the time. The biggest blessing I have is that I am forgetting all the things I did, what I was capable of doing that I'll never do again, that once I was smart and healthy and energetic and loved kids and dogs and people and now I can't even pick up my grandson. He's 22 pounds. I'll be 59 in a month and I got my first job when I was ten. I had to wear contacts on my eyes (they had just come out) so I wouldn't go blind. They hurt like broken glass every second I wore them. I was eleven.

I went through a C-section with no meds after wards b/c of a doctor that thought women would drop their babies.

So, please---spare me the "I can't take the pain," [censored]. People have been doing it for millions of years. So I'm getting some relief before I check out. Sorry if that annoys you. Maybe we just live in a soft society that demands entitlement and our desires attended to immediately like a child's.

I realize you are educated, etc., but you can take all those studies and put them in a file drawer for what they are worth. What you are looking for you will not find on a drug board---you need a lot of money and someone with political clout who is in a lot of pain.

Forgive me if I have made my posts look easy or 'patronizing'. I have lived through hell and I ain't done yet.

3May2009 Sunday today I rc'd this. What you read here is all I know and it's real.

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Late Friday afternoon Dr Friedlander and Dr Troy, PhD won their first battle vs. the state of Fl and the government. The Federal judge ruled that they did not violate the terms of their release by prescribing the medication Opana. This week an emergency motion will be filed to the state appelate court to reopen their offices and see patients once again. Once that is ruled on and should with out question be 100% favorable we will be able to provide service again. We hope this to be with in the next week.

We are aware of your concern to continue working with Dr Friedlander, however those that have seen the drs or spoke to Dr F or Troy for consults know they are 100% legit and this type of action by the government if tolerated will make it impossible for those who are in genuine pain to receive any medications. Dr and Troy still need your support to get through this and please continue to send your emails of support if you have not already for the Dr and his staff.

This is good news and hopefully the next email you receive from us will have even better news.

I certainly hope it works out, too. It will be beneficial for all. I just wouldn't want to be working with crooks when there are equally as many (if not more) legitimate, compassionate doctors who will help and their patients will not have to endure anxiety over their actions.

We just don't hear about them that much b/c they follow the Rules and probably aren't as greedy.

Latchet1113 - You are almost for sure Troy Wubbena. I notice you keep saying "we" and "us". You do not have a Phd. As Stevo1 was so quick to tell me, PROOF please. I have done a thorough records check and I cannot find anything to back up where you said that you won a court preceding on Friday. I believe Dr. Jeffrey Friedlander is still in jail. You would be CRAZY to be keep seeing patients with all of your pending Federal Felonies (15 at last count). But from what I have already found out about your previous habit of quackery and seeing patients when out on bail, it would not surprise. Please see the Press Release on Saturday, yesterday, from the Orlando Sentinel, the day after you said that Dr. Jeffrey Friedlander won his court case. By the way, I want the money you in effect stole from me back!!!!

Dr. Jeffrey Friedlander of Orlando suspended from practice
Fernando Quintero | Sentinel Staff Writer


May 2, 2009 - Orlando Sentinel


An Orlando doctor charged with illegally prescribing oxycodone, morphine and other drugs has been ordered by state officials to quit his practice.

State Surgeon General Ana M. Viamonte Ros issued an emergency suspension order for Dr. Jeffrey Friedlander of Orlando.

On March 26, Friedlander was indicted and charged with knowingly and willfully conspiring with three co-defendants "and other persons, both known and unknown" to illegally distribute and dispense controlled substances, primarily oxycodone, morphine, hydrocodone and alprazolam, which is also known as Xanax.

As a condition of his release, Friedlander was ordered not to prescribe, dispense or transfer any of the types of medications listed in his indictment.

On April 14, Friedlander violated this provision, authorities say. An emergency-suspension order was then issued.

"Through his actions, Dr. Friedlander has shown that he is unable to practice medicine safely at this time," Viamonte Ros said. "Due to his impairment, his inability to practice with the necessary skill, causes him to be an immediate and serious danger to Florida's residents and visitors."

An emergency-suspension order prevents Friedlander from practicing as a physician in Florida until final action by the Florida Board of Medicine.

Fernando Quintero can be reached at fquintero@orlandosentinel.com or 407-650-6333.

I notice that you only have 4 post and your last one was in 2007, yet Stevo1 (who obviously only gets uspet with people who do not appreciate you stealing our money) does bot have a problem with you.

APAININTAMPA..... I believe that was an email that latech1113 received from Dr F's Office!!