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#876719 - 04/17/09 08:38 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: Repteur]
xeon99 Offline
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Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 50
Loc: Sunshine State
Hey Repteur, there is nothing funny about it for sure and I darn well wish I had read your post, or anything which would have suggested this. I did do some reasearch after he gave me the samples and before I tried it two weeks later, but it was here and there internet searches and nothing I read said anything about it reversing effects of other meds or cautions for people not to take who are using different pain meds.

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#876730 - 04/17/09 09:14 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: stevo1]
FangZ Offline
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Registered: 12/16/02
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I just have nothing to say for now.
This is sickening.

Thanks Steveo for putting it up here.




 Originally Posted By: stevo1


Holy Craap!!! I just looked at the AD!! .....Talk about Slimy!!

Look at this Folks!!!



Five Telemarketing Positions available to promote On Line Medical Consultations. List of approximately 3,000 established patients available
nationwide with cell phone no. and email addresses. Call the patient, read the script provided regarding a new treatment protocol, email
the pertinent documentation and call back to schedule a phone consultation for our doctors with the patient. Earn 15% commission of a $ 225
consult fee or $ 33.75 per consultation set up and completed. Goal is to set up at least 10 consults per day with an average earning potential
of $ 337.50 to $ 506.25 daily commissions. Ability to make $ 1,500 to $ 2,500 per week based on your motivation and promotional abilities.
The Company provides phones, phone lines, marketing script, established patient list, new patient lists, emailing package and
PC with DSL / internet access. Several shifts available. Five telemarketers needed immediately.
Call xxxx at (561) xxx-xxxx or (786) xxx-xxxx


Hiring Organization: Vital xxxxxxxx Health xxxxxx
Location: Boca Raton, FL
Compensation: 15% commission or $33.75 per consult set up/ average of $ 350 to $ 500 a day/pay weekly
Telecommuting is ok.
This is a part-time job.
OK to highlight this job opening for persons with disabilities
Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
Phone calls about this job are ok.
Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.


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#876861 - 04/17/09 01:52 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: FangZ]
martind Offline
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Registered: 05/01/08
Posts: 2680
It's really a shame that "doctor" Garcia hasn't found time to return to this informative dialog.
I don't know which is worse: a straight-up Mexican drug dealer such as those seen on other parts of this web site or someone who operates under the guise of a modern day Albert Schweitzer pursuing his self-described humanitarian goal of treating the country's 50 million chronic pain patients while at the same time employing telemarketers, sending email blasts with wholly erroneous medical information, crafting clever telephone "scripts" for his sales force and handing out dangerous prescriptions for an injectable narcotic equal in potentcy to morphine.
I'm not sure which is worse. At least the Mexicans don't make you go to San Ysidro.

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#876873 - 04/17/09 02:18 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: martind]
FangZ Offline
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 Originally Posted By: martind
At least the Mexicans don't make you go to San Ysidro.



LMAO!!


I do have a question, maybe someone can answer. If nubain is so great, why then will a local doctor not rx it to you?
I don't get the whole thing of flying 4 states over to get it rx'ed?
Like I mentioned a while back, there is a doctor here at a walk in type clinic that gives it in office via IV.

So, how hard would it be to have a local doctor give the rx for the vials as 'Dr.' Garcia is doing?
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#876912 - 04/17/09 03:40 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: FangZ]
rocker61 Offline
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Registered: 07/21/07
Posts: 63
What do you expect from someone that doesn't know what gender they are? Dr G's "looked at love from both sides now".

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#877150 - 04/18/09 12:25 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: xeon99]
Repteur Offline
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Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 2547
 Originally Posted By: xeon99
Hey Repteur, there is nothing funny about it for sure and I darn well wish I had read your post, or anything which would have suggested this. I did do some reasearch after he gave me the samples and before I tried it two weeks later, but it was here and there internet searches and nothing I read said anything about it reversing effects of other meds or cautions for people not to take who are using different pain meds.


No i wasn't laughing at you. I was laughing at people disregarding what i said and basically promoiting it as the best thing since apple pie. It basically was like shooting you up with narcan. In opiate dependant people it will act like narcan. Example. Have you ever seen a herion addict o.d. and get shot up with narcan. Its a violent reaction. One minute there laying there pretty much dead then they violently come back from the narcan shot. I'm glad you were able to see a intelligent M.D. who basically told you exact what i said somewhere on this board. I'm to lazy to look.( CONTRAINDICATED IN PATIENTS WHO ARE OPIATE DEPENDENT). It will act as a narcotic antagonist in those patient.


Edited by Repteur (04/18/09 12:28 AM)
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#877155 - 04/18/09 12:52 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: Repteur]
secondstar Offline

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Registered: 10/13/05
Posts: 511
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Repteur, thank you for posting this info & also for reminding us. All (prescription) drugs can have negative effects on us, & it depends upon what we have been taking, etc., etc.

Something as serious as taking opiates, then going to this medication, is very serious. Seems like Dr. Garcia needs a continuing education class on this subject!

He needs to be able to effectively diagnose and prescribe, which includes knowing how medications interact!

And the fact I have seen the craiglist ad Dr. G has posted to get telemarketers, that just is not right! Anyone that was getting relief from using this product the correct way- may not have any credibility now, which is such a shame!
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#934864 - 09/25/09 10:41 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: tango5]
DIVISION Offline
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Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 13

Nubain isn't scheduled, so it shouldn't require a F2F at all.

Under what law is Dr. Garcia forced to see people when this drug is dispensed all the time without issue?

Someone care to explain?

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#934882 - 09/25/09 11:22 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: secondstar]
PNWRain Offline
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Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 1578
Loc: Eugene, OR
Hi Star. To me (and it is only MY opinion) this Nubain is another garbage drug. And this Doctor (taken under advisement) IS a quack. What he is doing is not only unethical, it is dangerous.

It is the same with suboxone. Immediate, violent withdrawals. I have never taken it, but I've read enough stories. Worse withdrawals than if one were to quit on their own.

And the ad on Craig's list - well that gives you everything you need to know. Ethical docs don't do that crapola. It is about money and only about money. Not about a patient's welfare.

In our efforts to manage pain, we still need to use common sense. Blue Fairy - if it's working for you, great. Sounds like you did it in such a way to limit the sides.

But Dr Garcia IMHO should be banned from the medical profession. He is no doctor. At least how I define a doctor.

As always, I am just offering my viewpoint. I am no expert. Personally, I would never take this drug. I wish good results to those who do. Xeon - I was horrified reading your experience. But not surprised. Hope you are much, much better now. Be careful everyone.

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#934888 - 09/25/09 11:52 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: secondstar]
funkybreakz Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 2253
Loc: |20(|-|3||35|\/|6 1$ 6@`/
Originally Posted By: secondstar
Repteur, thank you for posting this info & also for reminding us. All (prescription) drugs can have negative effects on us, & it depends upon what we have been taking, etc., etc.

Something as serious as taking opiates, then going to this medication, is very serious. Seems like Dr. Garcia needs a continuing education class on this subject!

He needs to be able to effectively diagnose and prescribe, which includes knowing how medications interact!

And the fact I have seen the craiglist ad Dr. G has posted to get telemarketers, that just is not right! Anyone that was getting relief from using this product the correct way- may not have any credibility now, which is such a shame!




he doesent have time for continuing education as his hormone treatments from the sex change operation takes up a lot of his time smack
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#934897 - 09/25/09 12:12 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: funkybreakz]
PNWRain Offline
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Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 1578
Loc: Eugene, OR
Funky - LOL! Yeah, this Garcia dude is a wacko for sure. Scares me to be honest. So, he/she is now Ms. Garcia? And to quote Jerry Seinfeld - "not that there's anything wrong with that."

It really is no laughing matter (but I am laughing nevertheless). He has the ability to do real harm. Please everyone give a second, third and fourth thought to this.

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#934997 - 09/25/09 03:20 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: PNWRain]
martind Offline
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Registered: 05/01/08
Posts: 2680
"doctor" Garcia is like a case of genital herpes. He is bad news, never really goes away and there seems to be no solution to get rid of him entirely.
But people keep trying to engage in the same unhealthy activity regardless of the obvious risks.

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#935019 - 09/25/09 03:41 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: tango5]
pixy Offline
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Registered: 03/03/04
Posts: 480
I'm sorry when you talk about how bad your luck is because no one should be stuck with some nut ball writing scripts for nubain, do you get a prayer clothe with that purchase or is that it. This Dr. G sounds like you hit the bottom of the drum. Did any one here say how much he charges for these miracles.

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#936156 - 09/28/09 09:28 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: PNWRain]
funkybreakz Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
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Originally Posted By: PNWRain
Funky - LOL! Yeah, this Garcia dude is a wacko for sure. Scares me to be honest. So, he/she is now Ms. Garcia? And to quote Jerry Seinfeld - "not that there's anything wrong with that."

It really is no laughing matter (but I am laughing nevertheless). He has the ability to do real harm. Please everyone give a second, third and fourth thought to this.


actually i am pretty sure it was angela, now angel. so it is still Mr Garcia.
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#936184 - 09/28/09 11:10 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: iris]
DIVISION Offline
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Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 13
Originally Posted By: iris
I thought that Angel Garcia was under investigation. I'll have to do some research. But it makes sense. If he could rx scheduled meds, he would. Nubain is a very old drug & they have come up with much better options in the recent years for pain, IE: hydro, oxy, MS.
We have all been around the block with meds for a long time & we're all right. This is his cash cow, still trying to make money off of suffering pain pts. But he isnt able to write for any kind of satisfactory meds. What happens when you call & tell him the Nubain isnt working. Most Docs would bump you up to a sch 2 or 3. Here we have no options.
I'm not being fooled by this one. Not an option for me.


Nubain works well for some, but others just don't react well to it.

It works well for me, the only sides I notice are sedation, which is tolerable.

It has a relatively short half-life, and I notice the effects are diminished after about six hours.

It doesn't matter whether it's injected IM, IV or SC but I use it IM.

I'm not sure why it isn't prescribed more readily as it works better than many other pain medications and is easy to monitor.

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#942849 - 10/12/09 06:33 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: DIVISION]
jackie01 Offline
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 264
I think just about all of us have had a prescription filled by doctor Garcia at one time or another.

I would probably stay away.

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#943616 - 10/14/09 12:36 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: jackie01]
Tiggerbear Offline
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Registered: 06/18/09
Posts: 14
can someone tell me where Dr.Garcia is located?

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#943866 - 10/14/09 08:23 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: Tiggerbear]
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Was or still is in Florida
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#945230 - 10/17/09 11:25 AM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: DIVISION]
PNWRain Offline
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Registered: 10/18/07
Posts: 1578
Loc: Eugene, OR
Division - I am glad that this Nubain has worked for you. My concern is Dr Garcia. Why is he prescribing this stuff? There are better meds. I have an idea of why and I personally would not consult with a doctor who has little if any ethics.

But, each to their own. Just be careful. I mean this is the kindest way.

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