Really? Where did you hear that?

(Not saying you're wrong, but I can't find anything about it on the Internet.)

ETA: According to Walgreen's website, it's still available..

http://www.walgreens.com/library/finddru...odeine&id=18926

The pharmacist I spoke to also gave me a printout from the American Journal of Pain Management, stating that Nubain is an effective medication to use for chronic pain. The journal article was dated January 2006. I found links to it online so I did not have to type the whole thing up.

Nalbuphine A Safe, Effective Long-Term Therapy for Severe Chronic Pain


NEW YORK JAN 24, 2006 (Reuters Health) - Nalbuphine (Nubain) effectively reduces long-standing debilitating pain from a variety of causes and conditions without inducing any observable withdrawal, according to a report on a series of patients treated at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center Pain Clinic in Fayetteville, North Carolina.

Nalbuphine achieves analgesia almost equivalent to morphine but without the euphoria, sedation, tolerance, or psychotomimetic effects associated with opiates, Dr. James S. Howard, III, explains in his report in the American Journal of Pain Management for January. Furthermore, it does not stimulate mast cell histamine release or depress respiration.

The diagnoses in the 14 men and 11 women included pain from "degenerative lumbar and/or cervical disc herniation with or without radicular pain, chronic severe migraine, fibromyalgia, and chronic severe pain from traumatic orthopedic crush injuries to the spine, pelvis, or extremities."

The average duration of pain was 6 years, during which patients had experienced an average of three pain-related hospital admissions for surgery. All of the patients rated their average pain levels as unbearable (8 to 10 on a visual analog scale).

Nalbuphine was prescribed in doses ranging from 10 to 20 mg three to four times daily. The drug has to be injected, either subcutaneously, intramuscularly, or intravenously.

After establishment of this regimen, the patients rated their average pain levels as bearable (2 to 3 on a visual analog scale). Men tended to require larger doses than women for adequate relief. Many of the patients have been treated with nalbuphin for several years without requiring dose escalation or medication switches. Many report that they've been able to return to work, without experiencing motor impairment, sedation or difficulty concentrating.

In addition to the indications listed above, Dr. Howard notes that nalbuphine has been used at his clinic to treat patients with rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis, cancer-related pain, and pain from traumatic bone, nerve, and deep-tissue injuries.

He concludes: "It appears that the daily use of injectable nalbuphine may offer a new and worthwhile alternative in the long-term management of severe chronic pain."

SOURCE:

Am J Pain Manage 2006;16:29-33

Here are a couple of links online to the article

http://www.cancerpage.com/news/article.asp?id=9311


http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/368265/nalbuphine_safe_effective_for_severe_chronic_pain/

Tylenol #3 is a Schedule III Controlled drug. They don't make Tylenol #4 any longer in Amerika.

I just got my script filled for T4's, so are you saying their just not made in the US anymore or are you saying you can't get them anymore? Thanks!

Ooops, sorry. I meant Tylenol #1. Also #2's. Damn Blackberrys. Can't live with em; can't live without em. Little itty bitty keyboard . . .

Later he told me that NuBain is a counter acting drug for people who take hydro and that no doctor should prescribe it to someone who has taken hydro for a period of time. It's a good drug he said for pain, but only for people who have not been on hydro or oxy for years. In effect it put my in immediate withdrawl. It's and antiagonist where hydro is an agonist, something like that he said.

I gave some props to this "doctor" Garcia yesterday complimenting him on the fact that at least he hasn't resorted to using irritating telemarketers to peddle this goofy Nubain scheme of his.
I guess I spoke too soon:

http://www.miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mar/1102173421.html (that was fast. He already deleted his ad for five telemarketers to sell this to his "customers" while providing their cell phone #'s and email addresses. He's too fast for me.)

Regardless of all of the admonitions for people to thoroughly research Nubain, I'm afraid there will be readers of this discussion board who will take to heart the advice of the "doctor's" dedicated acolytes here.
I asked at some point if they would feel any personal regret should a person encounter dire consequences medically from this ill-advised treatment. I'm pretty sure that I would.

PS: If you really want to read his ad, it can be seen via Google using: (561) 392-0034 craigslist

I gave some props to this "doctor" Garcia yesterday complimenting him on the fact that at least he hasn't resorted to using irritating telemarketers to peddle this goofy Nubain scheme of his.
I guess I spoke too soon:

http://www.miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mar/1102173421.html (that was fast. He already deleted his ad for five telemarketers to sell this to his "customers" while providing their cell phone #'s and email addresses. He's too fast for me.)

Regardless of all of the admonitions for people to thoroughly research Nubain, I'm afraid there will be readers of this discussion board who will take to heart the advice of the "doctor's" dedicated acolytes here.
I asked at some point if they would feel any personal regret should a person encounter dire consequences medically from this ill-advised treatment. I'm pretty sure that I would.

PS: If you really want to read his ad, it can be seen via Google using: (561) 392-0034 craigslist

I really want to chime in on this one. I suppose I should be embarrassed by NOT using common sense as a lot of you have said. But I went and saw Dr. G a few weeks ago and he told me about the switch over to NuBain. I was concerned about withdrawl but he assured me there would be none. I never got the script filled because I still had meds left, but he gave me two samples to take. (Injectables) Two vials and told me if I was in a lot of pain to use the whole vial, which would take the syringe to the 2 mark.
Well I was one day out of meds and beginning withdrawl so out of desparation I injected the full vial. Within 15 minutes I could not breathe, was vomitting so much I felt like I was tearing my stomach apart, immediate violent diarreah, very aggitated, like I was in the worse withdrawl ever, withdrawl times 10. Within another 10 minutes I was out of it and remember the firemedics trying to get me into the stretcher asking a bunch of questions I had to answer truthfully. The feeling was the worse in my life, I thought I was going to dye. I could not breathe and my heart was pounding and flip flopping all over, medics say I was throwing PVC's greater than 10 a minute.
Get to hospital and I'm freezing, can't breathe and having to wait for Doc to come in. He asks me all the questions and tells me it will work through. I asked if he could knock me out but he said no. Fortunately I heard him tell the nurse to give me something and about 30 minutes of pure agony later she came in and zomked me out with Benadyl in my IV. I never thought benadryl could do that to you, man I was out of it big time. But the horrible aggitation and hard labored breathing was over, and I was at peace.
Later he told me that NuBain is a counter acting drug for people who take hydro and that no doctor should prescribe it to someone who has taken hydro for a period of time. It's a good drug he said for pain, but only for people who have not been on hydro or oxy for years. In effect it put my in immediate withdrawl. It's and antiagonist where hydro is an agonist, something like that he said.
I want to say, people, don't do this [censored]. He is a quack, fruitcake. I'm so glad he gave me written papers with instructions and even says on them people do not suffer withdrawl. I want to contact a lawyer so bad. I cannot explain what happened to me the other night. Words could never, ever express that agony. Please DO NOT USE THIS drug if you've been using hydro for a while, you will regret it big time.