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#852678 - 03/03/09 03:18 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: M4A3]
stevo1 Offline
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They Did it a while ago!
So I don't Doubt It!
Please don't make me find it....I will if I have to!
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#852680 - 03/03/09 03:21 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: landshark_74]
rontology Offline
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Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 413
 Originally Posted By: landshark_74
Are you related to Jeff? Your posts offer about as much insight as his. I mean, c'mon, the best you can do is thank Blue. Seriously, try to post when you have info. Even Jeff wouldn't want this stuff at the top of the board all day. Are you "damage control"? If so, they really were blindsided. Sorry to be harsh, but you're confusing people, myself included.

LS


Take it easy Landshark! I agree with Bluefairy's comments on this, and also believe they were really blindsided by this: Even though I no longer use this, or any other service (7 months), I have nothing but respect for ConsultsDirect and the very nice and professional people who work here.

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#852681 - 03/03/09 03:22 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: stevo1]
landshark_74 Offline
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It is Jeff!!! If Debbie is there, post for her. I wouldn't feel well, either, with all the cra* you guys are facing. Think RICO.

Stevo...I have to take some satisfaction in knowing how this one would play out. Geez. But I'm devestated for those put into a situation I dealt with a few short months ago.

And "Linda"...when did I mention "taking money" or "ripping people off". Those are your words. Guilty conscience, huh? I hope so. I'm now just waiting for your PM to smooth things over.

I'm giddy to hear your next irrelevant response.

LS

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#852683 - 03/03/09 03:23 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: stevo1]
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Loc: Pennsylvania
 Originally Posted By: stevo1
They Did it a while ago!
So I don't Doubt It!
Please don't make me find it....I will if I have to!


Take it easy, you dont have to go digging for it.
lol

I guess the DEA and FDA has all the pharmacy fax numbers on massive speed dial.
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#852684 - 03/03/09 03:23 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: nitemoon]
tigersmom Offline
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I talked to an EMT friend of mine about the Nubain. He was kind of shocked that it was being used outside a hospital setting. He had also only heard of it being given in an IV, not being used IM. He did however say it was some good sh*t.


Oh great. Clearly Gracia is a desperate quack. That DEA report mentions that Nubain is "sedative" Great when you need to work and be, um, conscious .
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#852686 - 03/03/09 03:24 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: M4A3]
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Are you related to Jeff? Your posts offer about as much insight as his. I mean, c'mon, the best you can do is thank Blue. Seriously, try to post when you have info. Even Jeff wouldn't want this stuff at the top of the board all day. Are you "damage control"? If so, they really were blindsided. Sorry to be harsh, but you're confusing people, myself included.

LS


LS,
Where have you read one of my posts? The post your taking about was a c&p of Bluefairy.
I just tried to help those that asked a few questions, if I had the answers, I would give them. It's simply that easy.
I can see why Jeff quit posting way back when and Debbie never liked doing the posting......you try to help those that request it..and others twist it all around (not that you are doing that LS)
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#852687 - 03/03/09 03:27 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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When did Jeff help anyone with anything meaningful? YOU better start digging. Jeff is a carnival barker, pure and simple. Please be considerate of your "patients" and post accordingly. You will not win an argument with me on the CD subject.

LOL Linda...LOL.

LS

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#852688 - 03/03/09 03:27 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: landshark_74]
stevo1 Offline
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I am Devistated Too!!!....I hoped that somehow someway this would Not happen! ....But it seems it Has! \:\(
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#852690 - 03/03/09 03:28 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: stevo1]
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 Originally Posted By: stevo1
I am Devistated Too!!!....I hoped that somehow someway this would Not happen! ....But it seems it Has! \:\(


We all did, buddy. We all did. Pm me if you want to chat.

LS

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#852704 - 03/03/09 03:55 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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 Originally Posted By: ConsultsDirect

LS,
Where have you read one of my posts? The post your taking about was a c&p of Bluefairy.
I just tried to help those that asked a few questions, if I had the answers, I would give them. It's simply that easy.
I can see why Jeff quit posting way back when and Debbie never liked doing the posting......you try to help those that request it..and others twist it all around (not that you are doing that LS)


Linda,

I am sure you are between a rock and a hard place right now. If you are being personally attacked, that is not right. I think the problem lies in the fact that several people (myself included) have called Dr. Garcia and been told in no uncertain terms that he is not going to write anymore prescriptions for hydrocodone, xanax, etc. I don't know what is going on with your company. Perhaps Jeff is trying to find another doctor that will pick up the patient's treatment. I think people are freaking out and wanting a concrete answer. I know I was. Maybe it would be best not to post until you guys have a solution. I would really hate to be in your place right now having to deal with a lot of angry people.
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#852707 - 03/03/09 04:02 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: nitemoon]
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Registered: 10/25/06
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it amazes me how OCS have no problem assaulting people with a seemingly limitless barrage of advertising emails touting how wonderful their company is yet when it comes down to the wire...POOF. not to be heard from for a week until they come back with a half @ssed response.

even ones who send adverts to the regular email too though, but when you email them to find out what is going on in what now appears to be a legitimiate crisis, they dont reply back.

not that ive been on this board for such a long time, but ive def seen a few companies pull that old gimmick.

edit: this post is not directed at anyone in particular. im just speaking in general terms.


Edited by snippets (03/03/09 04:02 PM)

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#852713 - 03/03/09 04:13 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: tigersmom]
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 Originally Posted By: tigersmom
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I talked to an EMT friend of mine about the Nubain. He was kind of shocked that it was being used outside a hospital setting. He had also only heard of it being given in an IV, not being used IM. He did however say it was some good sh*t.


Oh great. Clearly Gracia is a desperate quack. That DEA report mentions that Nubain is "sedative" Great when you need to work and be, um, conscious .


Yeah, being conscious is a definite must. I have also read were Nubain is used to treat ACUTE pain. I haven't really seen where it has been used to treat chronic conditions. Plus, Dr. Garica said that one, maybe two shots a day would completely take away the pain. Everything I have read says it last 3-6 hours. There is just not that much information avaiable about the drug since it is so rarely used outside a healthcare facility. I can just see trying to get it filled at WalMart. I would be willing to try it, but I don't hold out much hope that it will work.

Also, I wonder if it is a good idea to prescribe a medication to people who have never tried it before. Isn't that why we had to have medical records showing where we had been prescribed the medication before??
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#852716 - 03/03/09 04:16 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: nitemoon]
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Good Point!!
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#852724 - 03/03/09 04:24 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: M4A3]
Bluefairy Offline
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 Originally Posted By: M4A3
 Originally Posted By: stevo1

You are fooling yourself ! Most Likely the Alphabets have sent Faxes to all Pharms about the Situation!!! They have done it before!!! .....They will do it Again!!!!JMHO


Im not saying your wrong.
But I have to ask, how in the world could the DEA send a fax to every pharmacy in America?


Besides that, at this time we do not have any information that the DEA has any involvement in this situation. He may have just decided risks were great and it was better to go in another direction. If his license to prescribe controlled medications had been revoked he would not be seeing anyone till things were straightened out.
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#852725 - 03/03/09 04:28 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: Bluefairy]
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Well I beg to differ! He could have been given an Ultimatum or he could have Lost his Prescribing rights for Controlled Meds!
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#852726 - 03/03/09 04:31 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: Bluefairy]
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Since when do OCS' paractice "risk-management? It's all about the $$$$, and fast. OCS docs have always been in deep financial "doo-doo".

I would bet anything that a bunch of regulatory agencies are involved. It just makes sense.

LS

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#852737 - 03/03/09 04:48 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: landshark_74]
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Can an agency just suspend the doctor's license (in regards to controlled substances) without some sort of legal process? I was just wondering......
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#852746 - 03/03/09 05:11 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: nitemoon]
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The DEA Can!
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#852756 - 03/03/09 05:19 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: stevo1]
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 Originally Posted By: stevo1
The DEA Can!


I knew it could be done, I just didn't know if they could pull it with no notice. There was one doctor in TN who was writing huge amounts of everything. It took months for them to pull his license after they raided his office. Heck, the day after the raid he was opened handing out the same scripts.
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#852758 - 03/03/09 05:21 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: nitemoon]
gabie Offline
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Well this is all a bunch of horse putooty. CD and the Garcias are scrambling to squeeze every dime they can on the unsuspecting public.
I hope not a single person re-consults for 295.00 for this uncontrolled medication that is not even scheduled with Soma and Tramadol.
The post made earlier is true that any Emergency clinic will give you the shot for your 25 dollar co-pay or 50 max.

I really feel sorry for the people who have already traveled or paid for flights to Florida to see this quack.

If I had a non-refundable ticket to Boca Raton I would go and kick some Garcia A$$ and maybe go up the road and find that chickenpoop pile known as Jeff and let him have it as well

The future lies in more OCS providing a legal service in the state you live in. Maybe you could get a UPS mail box center if you live in a neighboring state.
Alot of people will lose a lot of money while Jeff is probably out of the country with a stuffed duffel bag.
The whole Dr letter reeks of desperation and a very poor attempt of pulling something off that is so fake you can smell it even after you close your laptop.
There will always be supply and demand economics 101 but right now what used to cost an arm they also want a leg.

As more OCS get state to state with Dr and become legit in the eyes of DEA prices will become reasonable
There is hope in the future, but the big question is how long is the future. JMHO
gabie

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#852759 - 03/03/09 05:22 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: nitemoon]
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Dr G sent us a memo way back when, stating that January 1, he would begin Face To Face. Nobody Signed up.

Then he extended it until March 15th. Only a few Signed up.

His mother got very sick late in the afternoon last Wednesday.

After that, your guess is as good as mine

Linda
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#852796 - 03/03/09 05:54 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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I don't post a whole lot, but I gotta say one coment that I always remember on a lot of posts is: The company who brags and barks the loudest is the one that's gonna be the one that goes belly up and so far it's been pretty true.
JUST MY 2 CENTS! I felt left out! LOL

By the way LANDSHARK74 I can tell you've gotta good head on your shoulders! keep up the good posts everything you say is what I'm thinking I'm just not a very good writer!

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#852801 - 03/03/09 05:56 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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Why did "Jeff" say that everyone was signing up. He couldn't have been BS'in us, could he have? You guys are pathetic.

LS

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#852803 - 03/03/09 06:00 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: hickboy]
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 Originally Posted By: hickboy
I don't post a whole lot, but I gotta say one coment that I always remember on a lot of posts is: The company who brags and barks the loudest is the one that's gonna be the one that goes belly up and so far it's been pretty true.
JUST MY 2 CENTS! I felt left out! LOL

By the way LANDSHARK74 I can tell you've gotta good head on your shoulders! keep up the good posts everything you say is what I'm thinking I'm just not a very good writer!


Just remember "Ben" from UltraWebMeds. He was more of a scoundral than "Jeff" and even offered me a job.

Thanks for the compliment...I try and I'm a "hickboy" myself.

LS

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#852804 - 03/03/09 06:02 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: landshark_74]
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LOL!! OMG! I forgot all about Ben! LOL! Tooooo funny!!!

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#852823 - 03/03/09 06:21 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: hickboy]
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#852834 - 03/03/09 06:30 PM ????????? [Re: stevo1]
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Hey P2all...hope all is well. If I remember correctly, Sweetz wanted to know if a refill was denied for any reason would the CD guarantee still be honored. Jeff just kept saying 100% guaranteed filled. I never saw any clarification on these circumstances Sweetz was curious about. I think Jeff is a spambot.

LS_74


Just remember "Ben" from UltraWebMeds. He was more of a scoundral than "Jeff" and even offered me a job.

(I just heard from one of our faithful clients.......there is a post about "Ben" ordered from Consults Direct!) Can someone find that for me?

So "Jeff" is a scoundral because he started a little Direct Script Company about 2 years ago, helped a bunch of people get their medications and save an average of $152.00 when compared to their old closed down OCS ( that probably screwed them out of money ). I guess that makes sence from what your saying about us now.
I'm glad Debbie let me bring home the computer tonight, this could get interesting!


(No one is charged for their Prescription until it is being sent out)
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#852835 - 03/03/09 06:30 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: hickboy]
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Registered: 06/27/07
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I sent Jeff an email asking some questions. He did respond, but did not say much, just that he was forwarding my email to Deb.

From what I have heard so far from CD employees, this is as much a surprise to them as it is to us.

Hopefully, they will come in and give us their take on the situation.

Personal attacks solve nothing, particularly if they are directed at the wrong person. However they may prevent us receiving posts from the people we need to hear from the most.

I think it is very irresponsible for Dr.G (s) to cut off people from medication they are accustomed to without notice.

So far, we have not been told that anyone has been unable to obtain a refill from a script already written.
We have not been told that anyone with a script was turned away.

We do have several people waiting on scripts. I do not recall if anyone paid in advance with a CC, most people do COD, so they would not be out money to CD/Jeff at this point if they have not received the script.

I am as upset as anyone else here about this. I have a sister who has already had a F2F who will not now be able to get her next telemedicine script. I have a F2F and plane tickets for later this month. I just think we are not likely to get anywhere if we do not proceed with a modicum of decorum.

Jeff may show up tomorrow with a contingency plan, or be working on one as we speak. As CD was unaware of this decision until yesterday or today, we can hardly expect them to have their ducks in a row with a response at this junction.
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#852836 - 03/03/09 06:32 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: ConsultsDirect]
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Thanks for that update JEFF
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#852842 - 03/03/09 06:46 PM Re: Dr. Garcia no telemed until seen than ??????? [Re: stevo1]
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Registered: 06/27/07
Posts: 1469
Loc: Deep in Dixie
All people who are actually CD customers on here do know that Jeff and Linda are two separate people, as most of us have spoken to Jeff, Linda, and Deb on the phone at various times.

It has not even been a day since all this has come about.
I am very upset about it, but really do not understand why several people who have never used CD are trying to flame an employee of the OCS, and not the doctor who made the decision.

If the doctor who writes the scripts for Chatcp decided to stop, would Chatcp board members like it if non-customers decided to attack and bash Skyla on the board before the company had time to make an official response?
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