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#85159 - 04/11/06 07:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
leelee2 Enthusiast Registered: 06/21/05 Posts: 164 Loc: NC	I got that otc in the Bahamas. It was called co-codemal or something like that anyway it wasnt that good _________________________ A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. Roald Dahl
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#85161 - 04/13/06 07:12 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
expatinuk Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/07/05 Posts: 988	do you think ??? I found Perduretas worthless. No pain relief and made me sick as a dog : ( glad they help you though they seem easier to get than other some other options. _________________________ " Once in a while you get shone the light, in the strangest of places, if you look at it right " GD
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#85162 - 04/15/06 04:51 AM Post deleted by Administrator
Anonymous Unregistered	Edited by Melody (04/19/06 02:15 PM)
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#85163 - 04/15/06 08:02 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
LBJ Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/28/04 Posts: 937	Quote: do you think ??? I found Perduretas worthless. No pain relief and made me sick as a dog : ( glad they help you though they seem easier to get than other some other options. Perduretas is time released. If taken in regular doses, the best pain releif occurs on the second day of regular doses. In this sense it is not that great for ppl with acute and b/t pain, but for cp sufferers (like myself) it can be better than hydro as the pain doesn't start to creep back in 2 hrs after dosage like hydro. I love hydro, but it really only kills pain for me for an hour or 2 at its peak. Everyone is different, as is pain.
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#85164 - 04/15/06 09:37 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
herbp Veteran Registered: 01/20/06 Posts: 347 Loc: a cornfield in the midwest	Hi , Having just been promoted [or exiled]into the land of chronic pain sufferer's???]I was wondering if you'd ever tried liquid codeine? I hate the Norco / Oxycodone combo I'm on can't really function too well-i.e. -the word sufferer- MSContin makes me violently ill so it looks like it's back to Fentanyl patches and a life not worth living . I wish you the best of luck .
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#85165 - 04/15/06 10:55 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1132	hey, LBJ where ya been ?? Any dose of codeine above about 64 mg will cause a raging belly ache & possibly vomiting with nauses. Thats why codeine is limited as a pain reliever and more is not better, unless you like belly aches. I generally take doses of codeine around 60 mg and take half a tab of "dramamine" (suppress nausea & vomiting tendency ) I buy walmart version of "motion sickness" tabs same stuff as brand name. Its supposed to be for "travel sickness" I realize but it just works as an all purpose tummy medication too. Try it if you get sick from codeine.
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#85166 - 04/15/06 05:26 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
xj6guy Board Addict Registered: 09/29/05 Posts: 301	Codeine/paracetamol COD-Efferalgan. this stuff is great,it tastes good , is like alka seltzer in form and it works quickly. i highly recomend it. also try codox it's also in seltzer type form but contains 7.5 dehydrocodeine an aspirin per tablet and it tates good. my wife cannot take any pain meds infact 1 valium knocks her out but when she had the flu she could not beleive how well the codox helped her...
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#85167 - 04/17/06 08:02 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
LBJ Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/28/04 Posts: 937	Quote: hey, LBJ where ya been ?? Any dose of codeine above about 64 mg will cause a raging belly ache & possibly vomiting with nauses. Thats why codeine is limited as a pain reliever and more is not better, unless you like belly aches. I generally take doses of codeine around 60 mg and take half a tab of "dramamine" (suppress nausea & vomiting tendency ) I buy walmart version of "motion sickness" tabs same stuff as brand name. Its supposed to be for "travel sickness" I realize but it just works as an all purpose tummy medication too. Try it if you get sick from codeine. High Blueeyes, I just got out of jail for importing codeine phosphate! Lol! j/k, no I got cleaned up so I could re-evaluate my original affliction. I got a little too enthusiastic with the freedom of OP's if you know what I mean. Well, I came to the conclusion that my pain is quite real, and connot be treated properly w/ OTC meds and PT. I am currently researching Pain Management Specialists locally so I won't have to go online and so I can get something that I don't have to take every 4 hours. If they can't help me, I will be looking for a legit ROP, probably YPM for future PM. Please, if anyone can share experience or advice regarding Pain Specialists please PM me! Until then, be safe and remember that codeine without APAP is a Schedule II drug, you may as well be importing oxy for all legal purposes. I am not knocking any good sources, I just see alot of LE activity and the people on this site are mostly victims, beit CP Patient or Addict, legal trouble will not help your afflictions, no matter how much $$ you can save.
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#85168 - 04/18/06 04:00 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
expatinuk Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/07/05 Posts: 988	Quote: yea? try Codeisan then.. thats the best. I tend to notice Perduretas gives u that stuff-ed up feelin because its slow released. try breakin them to smaller pieces or crushing them in your mouth.. If ur a fan of hydro and not codeine, dont take em at all. Suggest u try codeisans though, just take 3 or 4 with a tylenol tab, I guarantee ull feel better, if u dont ur probably immune to codeine and shudnt do it. Thanks acidburn. I'll give the codeisans a try. I am waiting,a long time now, for an IOP order of VPs. I need other options as the pain isn't understanding of postal delays etc.
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#85169 - 04/23/06 03:08 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
aceyalone Enthusiast Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 228	Quote: My Doc has had me on T3's for cluster headaches for about 3 months, I have developed a very high tolerance to the codeine and was wondering how much codeine is safe to take in one single dose???? Thanks You defenitely don't wanna bump up to too much acetamenophen intake. It's just not healthy. Tell your doc how much relief they bring you and how your tolerance is rising then suggest Percocet, Norco, or Oxycodone. Edited by aceyalone (04/23/06 03:11 AM)
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#85170 - 04/23/06 06:46 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1132	take about 60 mg (that would be 2 tylenol 3s) above about 60 mg you won t get additional pain relief & you WILL GET....belly ache, nausea & possibly vomiting... (my theory is that too much codeine immediately stops stomach peristalsis (peristalsis is the normal internal movement of the GI tract) (GI tract would be in this case mostly the stomach & intestines) the quick stoppage or slowing you get from codeine throws it out of sync & in comes the nausea, belly ache, & puking..... Not fun...
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#85171 - 04/24/06 11:15 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
patient2all GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/16/02 Posts: 3528 Loc: NY/NJ	Quote: if you wanna get down down on the ground use 50mg codine but don't forget this fact 'you can't get it back codine' For those who were confused, you're either too young or too old -- play on an Eric Clapton song called "Cocaine". Just in case that was still bugging anyone..... Now I can't get the song (1970's) out of my head. 'She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie, C- ' _________________________ I'll be back...
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#85172 - 05/29/06 03:14 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
guyjohnson Stranger Registered: 05/23/06 Posts: 1	what color are the codeine-60?
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#85173 - 05/29/06 03:31 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
chronic12 Banned. soliciting email sources, shill Registered: 05/12/06 Posts: 28	depends on the brand.. most are white. McNeil are the famous ones
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#85174 - 06/06/06 01:33 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
never2many Threadhead Registered: 03/29/05 Posts: 697 Loc: In my garden	Could someone explain the difference between tylenol 1,2,3 and 4 (if they all exist). Is it just different amounts of codeine? Thanks!
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#85175 - 06/06/06 02:36 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
NotBillGates GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/15/04 Posts: 2800	Quote: Could someone explain the difference between tylenol 1,2,3 and 4 (if they all exist). Is it just different amounts of codeine? Thanks! According to Ortho-McNeil, the makers of Tyenol w/Codeine, they only produce the T3's and T4's along with an Elixer. The T3's have 30 mgs of Codeine The T4's have 60 mgs of Codeine. The Elixer as 12 megs mer 5 mL However, I've heard they are availbale as T1's and T2's in Canada. When they were produced in USA, the T1's had 8 megs and the T2's had 15 megs. However, I can't vouch for what Canada has as I'm suffering from the 110 degree temperatures in Phoenix! Hope this helps!
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#85176 - 06/07/06 05:46 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
chronic12 Banned. soliciting email sources, shill Registered: 05/12/06 Posts: 28	Tylenol 1: 8mg/500mg 2: 15mg/500mg 3: 30mg/500mg or 30mg/300mg 4: 60mg/500mg or 60mg/300mg Codeine phosphate/Tylenol
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#85177 - 06/07/06 07:22 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
never2many Threadhead Registered: 03/29/05 Posts: 697 Loc: In my garden	Thanks!
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#85178 - 06/12/06 04:32 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
buzzbuzz Board Addict Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 295	I've got a question about Perduretus. Each tab is 50mg codeine....timed-release. So, does that mean the 50mg of one tablet is slowly released bit by bit into your system? In other words, if you take 2 of them at once you really aren't taking one instant dose of 100mg of codeine..... vs Tylenol 4 which is 60mg instant release so if you take 2 it's a 120mg dose immediately. Anyone understand what I am asking here???
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#85179 - 06/12/06 06:02 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
emtp3 Member Registered: 08/12/04 Posts: 147 Loc: When you get North go farther ...	2- 50mg slow release would release double the mg per hour as one would, i'm not sure on the exact break down, that varies with alot of different factors. _________________________ Fighting the "DOOM Dealer"
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#85180 - 06/13/06 01:20 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
buzzbuzz Board Addict Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 295	Thank you for responding. So basically, you're getting only a portion of the 50mg each hour as it is released. Got it.
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#85181 - 06/13/06 06:17 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Stonee Member Registered: 04/17/06 Posts: 74 Loc: UnderCity	APAP does alot damage to liver so if you are constantly taking 3 or 4 on long term your liver is gonna suffer cos of the damage of apap.
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#85182 - 06/14/06 01:32 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
buzzbuzz Board Addict Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 295	You're right. Thanks! That's why I try to stick with perds or codeisan when I can. I was just trying to wrap my brain around trying to get a real 50mg instant dose from perds when I need the fast relief. Crushing doesn't really help too much because the different colors are released at different time intervals.
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#85183 - 06/20/06 06:25 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
loki485 Member Registered: 05/22/06 Posts: 133	I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not yet, but chlorpheneramin ( like Chlor-Trimeton ), but the generic, is incredible at stopping nausea. I used to have to take it when Hydro was making me ill. It's an antihistamine....so it can make you tired...but nothing close to phenergan or anything like that. Plus after taking it for a few days the drowsiness goes away. As for the Perduretas Codeinia time release 50mg......why not chew it up and take something like the chlorpheneramine. I would think that could be potentially a blessing for some people. Like taking Tylenol 4 with no Codeine. Plus I've read and heard from very legitimate sources that Codeine actually works better as a true analgesic than most anything else. I think the problem people have with it is that there's no overwhelming Hydro type feeling usually from taking it. Just my two cents. Update: I got some Perduretas Cdeina today because I am without my regular pain meds. I chewed one up...took a chlorpheneramine....and my pain is gone and I'm not nauseated or in any kind of withdrawal now. Edited by loki485 (06/21/06 08:25 AM)
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#85184 - 11/29/06 08:10 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Journeyz Stranger Registered: 11/03/06 Posts: 12	I just got some Codeisan tabs (30 mg) and am wondering if I can take it like a pill or if I should dissolve it in water first? I am using these in combination with 5/500 Hydrocodone in order to enchance it's effectiveness as I have 2 more refills through my OP and don't wish to re-register anywhere else or re-consult at this time. Of course, I will if I have to but it can get spendy. Just don't want to mess up and take something improperly. Thx for your help Journeyz
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#85185 - 11/29/06 08:15 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
OldandWorn GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/03 Posts: 9834 Loc: Somewhere in the budget	Not unless you crush it up and mix it with an alka seltzer and an aspirin. Just kidding.. LOL A tablet is made to swallow. I'm not even sure that codeisan will be a hydro potentiator. Potentiators have been discussed at length on the board, you may want to check it out. Not my area of expertise. BTW, hydro metabolizes into, I think, hydromorphone and Codeine into morphine (anyone know if thst is 100% correct). Good luck with the scratching. _________________________ Most people stumble over the truth, now and then, but they usually manage to pick themselves up and go on, anyway. -Winston Churchill 3 146
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#85186 - 01/23/07 06:08 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
acidust Journeyman Registered: 12/15/06 Posts: 54	As for the Perduretas Codeinia time release 50mg......why not chew it up and take something like the chlorpheneramine. I would think that could be potentially a blessing for some people. Like taking Tylenol 4 with no Codeine. Plus I've read and heard from very legitimate sources that Codeine actually works better as a true analgesic than most anything else. I think the problem people have with it is that there's no overwhelming Hydro type feeling usually from taking it. Just my two cents. The best way to take perduretas or codeisans is with pseudoephedrine hcl. I've tried that before and it works perfectly without nausea or anything. Of course it would be better if you had promathazine with you. codeine + pseudoephedrine + phenergan is the best concoction.
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#85187 - 04/22/07 10:02 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
PennyAnne Enthusiast Registered: 07/22/06 Posts: 225	T1's are available over the counter in Canada. 8 mg. codeine 15 mg. caffeine 300 mg. acetaminophen are in the generic brand I buy. I don't know about the availability of T2's, I'll have to look into that.
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#85188 - 04/27/07 08:31 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
PennyAnne Enthusiast Registered: 07/22/06 Posts: 225	T1's are available over the counter in Canada, but we need a script for T2's and anything stronger.
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