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#85129 - 03/09/04 07:14 AM Codeine Phosphate
Melody Moderator Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/20/03 Posts: 1379 Loc: DrugBuyers.Com	Codeine is an alkaloid obtained from opium or prepared from morphine by methylation and occurs as white crystals. Codeine effloresces slowly in dry air and is effected by light. The chemical name of codeine phosphate is 7,8-Didehydro-4,5alpha-epoxy-3-methoxy-17-methylmorphinan-6alpha-ol phosphate (1:1)(salt) hemihydrate and has the empirical formula of C18H21NO3·H3PO4·1/2H20. Its molecular weight is 406.4. Each soluble tablet contains 30 mg (0.074 mmol) or 60 mg (0.15 mmol) of codeine phosphate. These tablets also contain lactose and sucrose. Soluble tablets of codeine phosphate are freely soluble in water. They are intended for the preparation of solutions for parenteral administration. These tablets are not sterile. Codeine phosphate is an analgesic. INDICATIONS Codeine phosphate is an analgesic indicated for the relief of mild to moderate pain. DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION For Analgesia: Dosage should be adjusted according to the severity of the pain and the response of the patient. Adults: 15 to 60 mg every 4 to 6 hours (usual adult dose, 30 mg). Children: 1 Year of Age and Older - 0.5 mg/kg of b.d. weight or 15 mg/m2 of b.d. surface every 4 to 6 hours. Soluble tablets codeine phosphate are administered subcutaneously or intramuscularly. Solutions for injection should be prepared with sterile water and filtered through a 0.22 membrane filter. Note: Do not use the solution if it is more than slightly discolored or contains a precipitate. PATIENT INFORMATION Codeine may impair the mental and/or physical abilities required for the performance of potentially hazardous tasks, s.c. as driving a car or operating machinery. Codeine in combination with other narcotic analgesics, phenothiazines, sedative hypnotics, and alcohol has additive depressant effects.
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#85130 - 12/23/04 08:24 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
nikkicat Newbie Registered: 11/30/04 Posts: 40	Whats the difference between codeine phosphate and codeine sulphate? thanks! nikki
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#85131 - 12/23/04 12:37 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
rockystuart Enthusiast Registered: 03/11/04 Posts: 191 Loc: San Fran Bay Area, Calif	There is not too much difference between the phosphate and sulphate. The phospate will be slightly weaker on a mg to mg basis because the base molicule weighs more than the sulpher. It's strange but morphine is usually done as a sulphate and codeine is done as a PHOSPATE.
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#85132 - 01/24/05 05:59 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
anxious100 Member Registered: 11/24/04 Posts: 142	I find this to be the best asthma medication there is, I know it's not commonly found on Western markets, but having purchased Codine Sulphate in France and taken it at times when I have asthma issues (which is very often), it's been a great help to me.
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#85133 - 02/01/05 05:08 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
nikkicat Newbie Registered: 11/30/04 Posts: 40	How much tynenol doesezch tylenol 4 have in it? It says the 60 mg of codeine but does not indicate amount of codeine.I ussually take norco 10/325 but has to switch to the tynenol 4 for a bit to decrease tolerance to the hydro codone. It is not as strong but it keeps the pain at bay just concerned about the amount of tylenol. Anybody know? I even researched it and could not find the answer! Thanks!
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#85134 - 02/01/05 06:14 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
CARLITOS_WAY Threadhead Registered: 06/27/04 Posts: 672 Loc: WASHINGTON, USA	Quote: How much tynenol doesezch tylenol 4 have in it? It says the 60 mg of codeine but does not indicate amount of codeine.I ussually take norco 10/325 but has to switch to the tynenol 4 for a bit to decrease tolerance to the hydro codone. It is not as strong but it keeps the pain at bay just concerned about the amount of tylenol. Anybody know? I even researched it and could not find the answer! Thanks! 300 mg of Tylenol (APAP) _________________________ If I had kept all the 2 cents worth I gave away, I would be wealthy in $$$
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#85135 - 02/01/05 06:25 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
JethroBodine Board Addict Registered: 06/20/03 Posts: 239 Loc: Ozark Mountains	Codeine Phosphate (C18 H21 NO3). H3PO4 . 1 1/2 H2O mw424 Codeine Sulfate (C18 H21 NO3)2 . H2SO4 . 5H2O mw786 per molecule of codeine base, the phosphate is 8% heavier. Therefore in a mass comparison, the sulfate is a little stronger. If you can accurately cut your pills into 12 parts, you could make up for it. _________________________ ???????????????????????????????????? "This may not be the end of the world but you can see it from here." The artist formerly known as Johnny Cougar.
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#85136 - 02/02/05 03:15 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Lablady2 Banned. Shill. Found out to be Mod and working for OP4L Registered: 05/05/04 Posts: 264 Loc: New York City	Chemistry major???? I rarely see someone post re molecular weights and chemical composition on this board - and you live in the Ozarks???? Just teasing - couldn't resist:) I really enjoy your posts - you are a very knowledgable person! _________________________ User banned. Please ignore all posts made by this user. On March 25th, 2005 we found out this user is a moderator at ourprescriptions4less.com
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#85137 - 04/29/05 02:13 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
grix Journeyman Registered: 04/10/05 Posts: 55	Anyone have a rough idea of the comparative narcotic strength of Codeine to Hydrocodone or vice-versa? For example, how many Tylenol #3 30 mg codeine would equal 1 Hydro 10/325? Thanks.
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#85138 - 04/30/05 03:38 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
bc3 Stranger Registered: 03/08/05 Posts: 5	Yes.... used to take hydro 10/325 in us. cannot get in europe. takes 60-90mg of codeine to even come close for me... truth is it is good but not as good... doesn't last as long either. But it's all I can get and it works. Sorry can't give exact details for you just from experience. Bye!
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#85139 - 04/30/05 04:08 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
CARLITOS_WAY Threadhead Registered: 06/27/04 Posts: 672 Loc: WASHINGTON, USA	Codiene has a shorter half life. It also has less sedative effect. mg to mg it's suppose to be 8 to 1. _________________________ If I had kept all the 2 cents worth I gave away, I would be wealthy in $$$
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#85140 - 04/30/05 06:42 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
theborg Old Hand Registered: 10/20/02 Posts: 426 Loc: Large cube	Quote: Anyone have a rough idea of the comparative narcotic strength of Codeine to Hydrocodone or vice-versa? For example, how many Tylenol #3 30 mg codeine would equal 1 Hydro 10/325? Thanks. Don't know how accurate this is but here's a converter for you. http://www.medcalc.com/narcotics.html _________________________ Forget your fears and want no more.
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#85141 - 05/26/05 01:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
vertigok Stranger Registered: 03/22/05 Posts: 6	there isn't really a comparison
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#85142 - 07/20/05 02:26 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
NVR2L8 Member Registered: 03/12/05 Posts: 94 Loc: TX	Had to get Tylenol 3 due to it being so much cheaper than Hydro. How much to compare and also, has anyone noticed upset stomach on it, more so than hydro. Thanks, ME _________________________ "When I have to choose between two evils, I pick the one Ive never tried." ~~ Mae West
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#85143 - 08/31/05 01:07 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
dtyler Stranger Registered: 08/11/05 Posts: 1	Codeine works great in the treatment of narcolepsy. It has a paradoxel effect, it helps to keep narcoleptics awake without the side effects that ritalyn has.
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#85144 - 10/11/05 01:13 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
shovelhead Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/22/05 Posts: 843	if you wanna get down down on the ground use 50mg codine but don't forget this fact 'you can't get it back codine'
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#85145 - 10/12/05 01:17 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
trixiestixxx Board Addict Registered: 08/16/05 Posts: 323	What? _________________________ trixiestixxx A Mind is a terrible thing to waste....
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#85146 - 10/15/05 10:09 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
charon666 Enthusiast Registered: 05/16/05 Posts: 164	just be cautious. i believe it is a schedule II med as just plain codeine, but when one purchases it with the tylenol, it drops to a schedule III. for emergency, codeine is imperative in terms of bronchitis (only take at night to sleep;if one takes it to suppress cough all day, then one can develop pneumonia,) and is better for headaches/migraines than hydro which can worsen headaches in some [but not as good as butalbital, with or without the codeine for headaches/migraines.] If one can get the tylenol #4, 60 mg. codeine, then break in half, one has double the pills of tylenol #3. This does help with pain, but will not give certain effects (at least I don't believe it will) that some people anticipated from the hydro. Another pain killer is talwin, pentazocine,sosegon, schedule IV with tylenol, and it does work, particularly on dental pain. both are cheaper and but for the codeine cough syrup mentioned in the NDS indictment, are under less scrutiny at present.
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#85147 - 10/16/05 09:58 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
MicSlyness GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/12/05 Posts: 1769 Loc: Water Closet	It is scheduled by the amount of codeine, I don't have the link in front of me, but you can find out....I think one of the links on the DB page will direct you to the scheduling page and it breaks it down so it's easy to read.
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#85148 - 10/16/05 11:33 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
osawa Journeyman Registered: 09/29/05 Posts: 45	Codeine’s comparative analgesia to hydro is 6/1 So 60mg codeine = 10 mg hydro Duration of hydro may be up to 2 hours longer than codeine Just google opioid equivalency chart and you'll see where I'm getting this info.
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#85149 - 11/02/05 05:07 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
makranger13 Stranger Registered: 09/13/05 Posts: 4	Things that Potentiate Codeine (/Enhance Experience): -DXM/ketamine (therapeutic amount, ie. Amount normally taken for cough) -wine - white, not red (small amount) or brandy/rum/vodka -antihistamines ie.benadryl (25-75mg), original Dramamine,Phenyltoloxamine Citrate (2x therapeutic dose) -antacids ie. Sodium bicarbonate mixed into narcotic solution -benzodiazapines (therapeutic dose) -belladona alkaloids - scopolamine especially (therapeutic dose) -Nyquil mix (due to DXM and doxylamine) -St Johns Wort
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#85150 - 12/22/05 08:51 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Xiola Stranger Registered: 06/01/05 Posts: 1	Please help! I got codeine phosphate and the description says that it's water soluble. I was under the impression that I was to drink it like Alka-Seltzer, but now that I've been online it seems like it's for injection use only. Is this true? Can you not drink a water soluble codeine phosphate tablet? I'm so confused. And I don't really have the means to do it any other way. If anyone has the proper info on this matter, please help! Thanks.
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#85151 - 12/22/05 10:07 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1131	whats the name of the codeine product. The UK has several that are like alka seltzer one call soldapiene (sp?) comes to mind
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#85152 - 01/16/06 12:19 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
toe GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/09/02 Posts: 812 Loc: MidWest USA	Wow. I hope you didn't do this. Codeine comes in effervescent tabs that are meant to be dissolved in liquid and drunk. Injecting codeine can kill you. Seriously. Pulmonary embolism, badda-boom! _________________________ "It's the end of the World as We Know it. . ." -REM "and I'm seeking asylum in Canada"-toe
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#85153 - 01/16/06 02:58 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1131	INTRAVENOUS injection of codiene can cause pulmonary edema but injection sc (sub cutaneous just under the skin) or IM injection (into the butt thigh or upper arm) can be & is given in that manner, IM & SC routes.
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#85154 - 02/20/06 10:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
aceyalone Enthusiast Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 207	Quote: if you wanna get down down on the ground use 50mg codine but don't forget this fact 'you can't get it back codine' ok, ok.......WHAT!?!?!?!?!? No idea what yer post means, but it sounds like a good ole time! ACE
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#85155 - 03/03/06 09:36 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
janey Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/12/03 Posts: 787 Loc: new england	Quote: Had to get Tylenol 3 due to it being so much cheaper than Hydro. How much to compare and also, has anyone noticed upset stomach on it, more so than hydro. Thanks, ME upset stomach for me,yes,yes,yes........codeine feels very heavy in my belly. I never noticed this years back, but for some reason now I notice that it makes me pretty nauseous........is there anything that can be taken to help with that? solpadeine is OTC in the UK, and it is to be tasken as alka seltzer....definately NOT intended to be injected, but I'm not sure if that's even the product in question........ _________________________ Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what IS that thing?!-Jack Handey
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#85156 - 03/06/06 10:39 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
BBM Enthusiast Registered: 12/19/03 Posts: 194 Loc: I'm right here! Do you see me?	Hello all, Has anybody here know what this is exactly? Is it a pill to be taken orally or disolved in a liquid? Codeine/paracetamol (COD-Efferalgan) 30/500 mg Thanks, BBM
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#85157 - 03/08/06 10:25 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
janey Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/12/03 Posts: 787 Loc: new england	sounds like one of the products sold OTC in New Zealand. I'v never taken it, but have seen it listed on a product page w/ Nurpfen+ and the likes..........I'm assuming you swallow it like any regular pill. Something that's meant to be dissolved, such as Solpadeine, states so clearly in the product literature. _________________________ Anytime I see something screech across a room and latch onto someone's neck, and the guy screams and tries to get it off, I have to laugh, because what IS that thing?!-Jack Handey
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#85158 - 03/23/06 09:19 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
SeaAngel24 Stranger Registered: 03/13/06 Posts: 15 Loc: Some beach, somewhere~!~	My Doc has had me on T3's for cluster headaches for about 3 months, I have developed a very high tolerance to the codeine and was wondering how much codeine is safe to take in one single dose???? Thanks _________________________ "To the world you may be one person but to one person you may be the world"
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#85159 - 04/11/06 07:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
leelee2 Enthusiast Registered: 06/21/05 Posts: 164 Loc: NC	I got that otc in the Bahamas. It was called co-codemal or something like that anyway it wasnt that good _________________________ A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men. Roald Dahl
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#85161 - 04/13/06 07:12 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
expatinuk Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/07/05 Posts: 988	do you think ??? I found Perduretas worthless. No pain relief and made me sick as a dog : ( glad they help you though they seem easier to get than other some other options. _________________________ " Once in a while you get shone the light, in the strangest of places, if you look at it right " GD
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#85162 - 04/15/06 04:51 AM Post deleted by Administrator
Anonymous Unregistered	Edited by Melody (04/19/06 02:15 PM)
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#85163 - 04/15/06 08:02 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
LBJ Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/28/04 Posts: 937	Quote: do you think ??? I found Perduretas worthless. No pain relief and made me sick as a dog : ( glad they help you though they seem easier to get than other some other options. Perduretas is time released. If taken in regular doses, the best pain releif occurs on the second day of regular doses. In this sense it is not that great for ppl with acute and b/t pain, but for cp sufferers (like myself) it can be better than hydro as the pain doesn't start to creep back in 2 hrs after dosage like hydro. I love hydro, but it really only kills pain for me for an hour or 2 at its peak. Everyone is different, as is pain.
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#85164 - 04/15/06 09:37 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
herbp Veteran Registered: 01/20/06 Posts: 347 Loc: a cornfield in the midwest	Hi , Having just been promoted [or exiled]into the land of chronic pain sufferer's???]I was wondering if you'd ever tried liquid codeine? I hate the Norco / Oxycodone combo I'm on can't really function too well-i.e. -the word sufferer- MSContin makes me violently ill so it looks like it's back to Fentanyl patches and a life not worth living . I wish you the best of luck .
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#85165 - 04/15/06 10:55 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1131	hey, LBJ where ya been ?? Any dose of codeine above about 64 mg will cause a raging belly ache & possibly vomiting with nauses. Thats why codeine is limited as a pain reliever and more is not better, unless you like belly aches. I generally take doses of codeine around 60 mg and take half a tab of "dramamine" (suppress nausea & vomiting tendency ) I buy walmart version of "motion sickness" tabs same stuff as brand name. Its supposed to be for "travel sickness" I realize but it just works as an all purpose tummy medication too. Try it if you get sick from codeine.
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#85166 - 04/15/06 05:26 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
xj6guy Board Addict Registered: 09/29/05 Posts: 301	Codeine/paracetamol COD-Efferalgan. this stuff is great,it tastes good , is like alka seltzer in form and it works quickly. i highly recomend it. also try codox it's also in seltzer type form but contains 7.5 dehydrocodeine an aspirin per tablet and it tates good. my wife cannot take any pain meds infact 1 valium knocks her out but when she had the flu she could not beleive how well the codox helped her...
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#85167 - 04/17/06 08:02 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
LBJ Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/28/04 Posts: 937	Quote: hey, LBJ where ya been ?? Any dose of codeine above about 64 mg will cause a raging belly ache & possibly vomiting with nauses. Thats why codeine is limited as a pain reliever and more is not better, unless you like belly aches. I generally take doses of codeine around 60 mg and take half a tab of "dramamine" (suppress nausea & vomiting tendency ) I buy walmart version of "motion sickness" tabs same stuff as brand name. Its supposed to be for "travel sickness" I realize but it just works as an all purpose tummy medication too. Try it if you get sick from codeine. High Blueeyes, I just got out of jail for importing codeine phosphate! Lol! j/k, no I got cleaned up so I could re-evaluate my original affliction. I got a little too enthusiastic with the freedom of OP's if you know what I mean. Well, I came to the conclusion that my pain is quite real, and connot be treated properly w/ OTC meds and PT. I am currently researching Pain Management Specialists locally so I won't have to go online and so I can get something that I don't have to take every 4 hours. If they can't help me, I will be looking for a legit ROP, probably YPM for future PM. Please, if anyone can share experience or advice regarding Pain Specialists please PM me! Until then, be safe and remember that codeine without APAP is a Schedule II drug, you may as well be importing oxy for all legal purposes. I am not knocking any good sources, I just see alot of LE activity and the people on this site are mostly victims, beit CP Patient or Addict, legal trouble will not help your afflictions, no matter how much $$ you can save.
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#85168 - 04/18/06 04:00 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
expatinuk Pooh-Bah Registered: 10/07/05 Posts: 988	Quote: yea? try Codeisan then.. thats the best. I tend to notice Perduretas gives u that stuff-ed up feelin because its slow released. try breakin them to smaller pieces or crushing them in your mouth.. If ur a fan of hydro and not codeine, dont take em at all. Suggest u try codeisans though, just take 3 or 4 with a tylenol tab, I guarantee ull feel better, if u dont ur probably immune to codeine and shudnt do it. Thanks acidburn. I'll give the codeisans a try. I am waiting,a long time now, for an IOP order of VPs. I need other options as the pain isn't understanding of postal delays etc.
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#85169 - 04/23/06 03:08 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
aceyalone Enthusiast Registered: 11/21/05 Posts: 207	Quote: My Doc has had me on T3's for cluster headaches for about 3 months, I have developed a very high tolerance to the codeine and was wondering how much codeine is safe to take in one single dose???? Thanks You defenitely don't wanna bump up to too much acetamenophen intake. It's just not healthy. Tell your doc how much relief they bring you and how your tolerance is rising then suggest Percocet, Norco, or Oxycodone. Edited by aceyalone (04/23/06 03:11 AM)
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#85170 - 04/23/06 06:46 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
blueeyes Pooh-Bah Registered: 04/27/05 Posts: 1131	take about 60 mg (that would be 2 tylenol 3s) above about 60 mg you won t get additional pain relief & you WILL GET....belly ache, nausea & possibly vomiting... (my theory is that too much codeine immediately stops stomach peristalsis (peristalsis is the normal internal movement of the GI tract) (GI tract would be in this case mostly the stomach & intestines) the quick stoppage or slowing you get from codeine throws it out of sync & in comes the nausea, belly ache, & puking..... Not fun...
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#85171 - 04/24/06 11:15 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
patient2all GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/16/02 Posts: 3498 Loc: NY/NJ	Quote: if you wanna get down down on the ground use 50mg codine but don't forget this fact 'you can't get it back codine' For those who were confused, you're either too young or too old -- play on an Eric Clapton song called "Cocaine". Just in case that was still bugging anyone..... Now I can't get the song (1970's) out of my head. 'She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie, C- ' _________________________ I'll be back...
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#85172 - 05/29/06 03:14 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
guyjohnson Stranger Registered: 05/23/06 Posts: 1	what color are the codeine-60?
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#85173 - 05/29/06 03:31 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
chronic12 Banned. soliciting email sources, shill Registered: 05/12/06 Posts: 28	depends on the brand.. most are white. McNeil are the famous ones
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#85174 - 06/06/06 01:33 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
never2many Threadhead Registered: 03/29/05 Posts: 697 Loc: In my garden	Could someone explain the difference between tylenol 1,2,3 and 4 (if they all exist). Is it just different amounts of codeine? Thanks!
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#85175 - 06/06/06 02:36 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
NotBillGates Banned. Too much BS, and deception,.. GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 01/15/04 Posts: 2803	Quote: Could someone explain the difference between tylenol 1,2,3 and 4 (if they all exist). Is it just different amounts of codeine? Thanks! According to Ortho-McNeil, the makers of Tyenol w/Codeine, they only produce the T3's and T4's along with an Elixer. The T3's have 30 mgs of Codeine The T4's have 60 mgs of Codeine. The Elixer as 12 megs mer 5 mL However, I've heard they are availbale as T1's and T2's in Canada. When they were produced in USA, the T1's had 8 megs and the T2's had 15 megs. However, I can't vouch for what Canada has as I'm suffering from the 110 degree temperatures in Phoenix! Hope this helps!
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#85176 - 06/07/06 05:46 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
chronic12 Banned. soliciting email sources, shill Registered: 05/12/06 Posts: 28	Tylenol 1: 8mg/500mg 2: 15mg/500mg 3: 30mg/500mg or 30mg/300mg 4: 60mg/500mg or 60mg/300mg Codeine phosphate/Tylenol
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#85177 - 06/07/06 07:22 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
never2many Threadhead Registered: 03/29/05 Posts: 697 Loc: In my garden	Thanks!
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#85178 - 06/12/06 04:32 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
buzzbuzz Board Addict Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 295	I've got a question about Perduretus. Each tab is 50mg codeine....timed-release. So, does that mean the 50mg of one tablet is slowly released bit by bit into your system? In other words, if you take 2 of them at once you really aren't taking one instant dose of 100mg of codeine..... vs Tylenol 4 which is 60mg instant release so if you take 2 it's a 120mg dose immediately. Anyone understand what I am asking here???
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#85179 - 06/12/06 06:02 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
emtp3 Member Registered: 08/12/04 Posts: 147 Loc: When you get North go farther ...	2- 50mg slow release would release double the mg per hour as one would, i'm not sure on the exact break down, that varies with alot of different factors. _________________________ Fighting the "DOOM Dealer"
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#85180 - 06/13/06 01:20 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
buzzbuzz Board Addict Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 295	Thank you for responding. So basically, you're getting only a portion of the 50mg each hour as it is released. Got it.
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#85181 - 06/13/06 06:17 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Stonee Member Registered: 04/17/06 Posts: 74 Loc: UnderCity	APAP does alot damage to liver so if you are constantly taking 3 or 4 on long term your liver is gonna suffer cos of the damage of apap.
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#85182 - 06/14/06 01:32 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
buzzbuzz Board Addict Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 295	You're right. Thanks! That's why I try to stick with perds or codeisan when I can. I was just trying to wrap my brain around trying to get a real 50mg instant dose from perds when I need the fast relief. Crushing doesn't really help too much because the different colors are released at different time intervals.
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#85183 - 06/20/06 06:25 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
loki485 Member Registered: 05/22/06 Posts: 133	I don't know if anyone has mentioned this or not yet, but chlorpheneramin ( like Chlor-Trimeton ), but the generic, is incredible at stopping nausea. I used to have to take it when Hydro was making me ill. It's an antihistamine....so it can make you tired...but nothing close to phenergan or anything like that. Plus after taking it for a few days the drowsiness goes away. As for the Perduretas Codeinia time release 50mg......why not chew it up and take something like the chlorpheneramine. I would think that could be potentially a blessing for some people. Like taking Tylenol 4 with no Codeine. Plus I've read and heard from very legitimate sources that Codeine actually works better as a true analgesic than most anything else. I think the problem people have with it is that there's no overwhelming Hydro type feeling usually from taking it. Just my two cents. Update: I got some Perduretas Cdeina today because I am without my regular pain meds. I chewed one up...took a chlorpheneramine....and my pain is gone and I'm not nauseated or in any kind of withdrawal now. Edited by loki485 (06/21/06 08:25 AM)
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#85184 - 11/29/06 08:10 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
Journeyz Stranger Registered: 11/03/06 Posts: 12	I just got some Codeisan tabs (30 mg) and am wondering if I can take it like a pill or if I should dissolve it in water first? I am using these in combination with 5/500 Hydrocodone in order to enchance it's effectiveness as I have 2 more refills through my OP and don't wish to re-register anywhere else or re-consult at this time. Of course, I will if I have to but it can get spendy. Just don't want to mess up and take something improperly. Thx for your help Journeyz
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#85185 - 11/29/06 08:15 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
OldandWorn GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/03 Posts: 8650 Loc: LoFi Pool Hall, 12th & Vine	Not unless you crush it up and mix it with an alka seltzer and an aspirin. Just kidding.. LOL A tablet is made to swallow. I'm not even sure that codeisan will be a hydro potentiator. Potentiators have been discussed at length on the board, you may want to check it out. Not my area of expertise. BTW, hydro metabolizes into, I think, hydromorphone and Codeine into morphine (anyone know if thst is 100% correct). Good luck with the scratching. _________________________ Stop the cause of rainbows! Save our planet.
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#85186 - 01/23/07 06:08 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
acidust Journeyman Registered: 12/15/06 Posts: 54	As for the Perduretas Codeinia time release 50mg......why not chew it up and take something like the chlorpheneramine. I would think that could be potentially a blessing for some people. Like taking Tylenol 4 with no Codeine. Plus I've read and heard from very legitimate sources that Codeine actually works better as a true analgesic than most anything else. I think the problem people have with it is that there's no overwhelming Hydro type feeling usually from taking it. Just my two cents. The best way to take perduretas or codeisans is with pseudoephedrine hcl. I've tried that before and it works perfectly without nausea or anything. Of course it would be better if you had promathazine with you. codeine + pseudoephedrine + phenergan is the best concoction.
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#85187 - 04/22/07 10:02 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate
PennyAnne Enthusiast Registered: 07/22/06 Posts: 201	T1's are available over the counter in Canada. 8 mg. codeine 15 mg. caffeine 300 mg. acetaminophen are in the generic brand I buy. I don't know about the availability of T2's, I'll have to look into that.
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#85188 - 04/27/07 08:31 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
PennyAnne Enthusiast Registered: 07/22/06 Posts: 201	T1's are available over the counter in Canada, but we need a script for T2's and anything stronger.
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#85189 - 06/27/07 10:59 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate
VikVik Stranger Registered: 10/26/05 Posts: 11	DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION Dosage should be adjusted according to the severity of the pain and the response of the patient. It may occasionally be necessary to exceed the usual dosage recommended below in cases of more severe pain or in those patients who have become tolerant to the analgesic effect of narcotics. Codeine tablets are given orally. The usual adult dose is 15 to 60 mg every 4 hours as needed.
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#551302 - 08/28/07 01:25 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: bc3]
lindaford56 Newbie Registered: 08/20/06 Posts: 30	yes iwas wondering where you get the codine 60mg or 90mg thanks
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#552032 - 08/29/07 10:18 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: lindaford56]
narf852 Newbie Registered: 12/07/05 Posts: 38	I already told you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe you have water in your ears from swimming LOL me
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#732939 - 07/22/08 11:30 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: lindaford56]
RichyRevolt Stranger Registered: 07/22/08 Posts: 7	yeah, does anyone know of a reliable online source for codiene or other simalair opiates?
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#733072 - 07/22/08 02:45 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: buzzbuzz]
MdtnBill Member Registered: 05/27/06 Posts: 136 Loc: Tennessee	okay here goes ........ i can take hydros and my stomach is okay but even at the lowest dose of codeine phosphate i am sick as can be barfing and stomach ache what,s up with this?
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#733087 - 07/22/08 02:55 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: MdtnBill]
martind GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/01/08 Posts: 1867	Originally Posted By: MdtnBill okay here goes ........ i can take hydros and my stomach is okay but even at the lowest dose of codeine phosphate i am sick as can be barfing and stomach ache what,s up with this? I'm not trying to be a wiseass, but if codeine makes you that sick, why would you ever take it? I guess what's up with it is you are unable to take codeine. Hydrocodone does not have the same chemical make-up.
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#733094 - 07/22/08 03:10 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: martind]
MdtnBill Member Registered: 05/27/06 Posts: 136 Loc: Tennessee	Originally Posted By: martind [quote=MdtnBill]okay here goes ........ i can take hydros and my stomach is okay but even at the lowest dose of codeine phosphate i am sick as can be barfing and stomach ache what,s up with this? I'm not trying to be a wiseass, but if codeine makes you that sick, why would you ever take it? I guess what's up with it is you are unable to take codeine. Hydrocodone does not have the same chemical make-up. [/quote thanks, i didnt know i ran out of hydro and took the codiene and got very sick from them. Bill
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#733155 - 07/22/08 04:52 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: MdtnBill]
Browser6252 Journeyman Registered: 02/09/07 Posts: 68	Can anyone tell me about Tylex CD? I believe it is 30mg Codeine and 300mg Tylenol but I'm not sure. The capsules I have are white and have Cilag imprinted on them. Thanks!
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#733159 - 07/22/08 04:56 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: Browser6252]
Oxy80 GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/30/08 Posts: 2268 Loc: Follow the yellow brick road	Originally Posted By: Browser6252 Can anyone tell me about Tylex CD? I believe it is 30mg Codeine and 300mg Tylenol but I'm not sure. The capsules I have are white and have Cilag imprinted on them. Thanks! Tylex CD is 30mg Codeine and 500mg APAP. _________________________ Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World. _________________________
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#733226 - 07/22/08 06:26 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: martind]
pillar GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 11/07/06 Posts: 1908 Loc: The Doors of Perception	Originally Posted By: martind Originally Posted By: MdtnBill okay here goes ........ i can take hydros and my stomach is okay but even at the lowest dose of codeine phosphate i am sick as can be barfing and stomach ache what,s up with this? I'm not trying to be a wiseass, but if codeine makes you that sick, why would you ever take it? I guess what's up with it is you are unable to take codeine. Hydrocodone does not have the same chemical make-up. I, too, get sick from codeine but prefer it to hydro. The reasons being getting sick prevents abuse and it works just as well on my pain. _________________________ "God deliver us from such criminal imbecility."
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#733589 - 07/23/08 09:13 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: pillar]
martind GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/01/08 Posts: 1867	Originally Posted By: pillar Originally Posted By: martind Originally Posted By: MdtnBill okay here goes ........ i can take hydros and my stomach is okay but even at the lowest dose of codeine phosphate i am sick as can be barfing and stomach ache what,s up with this? I'm not trying to be a wiseass, but if codeine makes you that sick, why would you ever take it? I guess what's up with it is you are unable to take codeine. Hydrocodone does not have the same chemical make-up. I, too, get sick from codeine but prefer it to hydro. The reasons being getting sick prevents abuse and it works just as well on my pain. Now there's a novel way to prevent abusing painkillers! You may be on to something.
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#745122 - 08/11/08 08:47 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: LBJ]
Pickle Board Addict Registered: 06/30/08 Posts: 312	so any lessons learned you can pass on about staying out of jail.
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#745127 - 08/11/08 08:53 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: Pickle]
virgingod1 Newbie Registered: 08/03/08 Posts: 30	If you take the phosphate and the sulfate at the same time, will something bad really happen? I had a friend that did it and drank a soda and felt kinda wooseley....
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#745128 - 08/11/08 08:54 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: pillar]
Pickle Board Addict Registered: 06/30/08 Posts: 312	many people prefer the naturally occurring narcotics to anything synthetic; regardless of other factors. Also, ask a heroin or dilaudid addict why they take the drug when it makes them puke everytime. To them, it just a gauge on how good it's gonna be.
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#745142 - 08/11/08 09:24 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: Pickle]
OldandWorn GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/21/03 Posts: 8650 Loc: LoFi Pool Hall, 12th & Vine	Originally Posted By: Pickle many people prefer the naturally occurring narcotics to anything synthetic; regardless of other factors. Also, ask a heroin or dilaudid addict why they take the drug when it makes them puke everytime. To them, it just a gauge on how good it's gonna be. Every time? Maybe the first time, for sure. _________________________ Stop the cause of rainbows! Save our planet.
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#745371 - 08/11/08 05:06 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: virgingod1]
nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 9716 Loc: NOT 40!	Originally Posted By: virgingod1 If you take the phosphate and the sulfate at the same time, will something bad really happen? I had a friend that did it and drank a soda and felt kinda wooseley.... He just had too much codeine. It matters not which actual salt of codeine you have; they're all roughly the same and don't interact with each other.
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#814641 - 12/13/08 02:37 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: ]
nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 9716 Loc: NOT 40!	You haven't mentioned that this site you are affiliated with sells not pure codeine phosphate pills, but codeine/paracetamol 15/500mg. In other words, there is 500mg APAP in the pills.
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#819833 - 12/23/08 12:48 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: LBJ]
isitimpossible Enthusiast Registered: 12/07/08 Posts: 214	What LE? Please explain further. Are we being watched?
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#819837 - 12/23/08 01:00 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: isitimpossible]
stevevi Pooh-Bah Registered: 05/07/08 Posts: 1137 Loc: East of Mississippi	Originally Posted By: isitimpossible What LE? Please explain further. Are we being watched? LE - Law Enforcement Pretty safe bet. Edited by stevevi (12/23/08 01:00 PM)
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#819838 - 12/23/08 01:04 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: stevevi]
isitimpossible Enthusiast Registered: 12/07/08 Posts: 214	I know what LE means, but why the sudden caution.
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#819839 - 12/23/08 01:05 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: nephro]
eluded Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/29/08 Posts: 1285	..kind of like the old tale from jr high school days... if you dropped a cpl aspirin in a coke and drank it, that you would get a buzz of some sort.. maybe from blood loss in the abdominal region??? or the one about guys taking Midol...that got you high also. yeah, i bet. also got you some strange looks in 1967 at the Rexall.
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#820004 - 12/23/08 07:02 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: eluded]
sudsy Veteran Registered: 02/21/07 Posts: 624	Originally Posted By: eluded ..kind of like the old tale from jr high school days... if you dropped a cpl aspirin in a coke and drank it, that you would get a buzz of some sort.. maybe from blood loss in the abdominal region??? or the one about guys taking Midol...that got you high also. yeah, i bet. also got you some strange looks in 1967 at the Rexall. Thanks for the old tales,Rexall I went there all the time.
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#820013 - 12/23/08 07:30 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: sudsy]
eluded Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/29/08 Posts: 1285	LOL.., GOOD ! that was pre-walgreens or eckerds and the chain stores... Fond memorys of past places.... the rexall down the street from my elemetary and Jr. High was a frequent stop on the way home to spend the $0.50 lunch money on candy and other enamel eating corroding sweet treats....lol
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#820383 - 12/24/08 02:36 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: isitimpossible]
PrivateRealm GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 03/18/03 Posts: 2568 Loc: In my realm, I'm QUEEN	Originally Posted By: isitimpossible I know what LE means, but why the sudden caution. Not sudden. We've known about this, and it's been talked about, around here for years. Just common sense. _________________________ Anne~~~ "A person's true identity is rarely apparent in the life that they lead."
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#838741 - 02/01/09 12:15 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: makranger13]
bobzcodone Journeyman Registered: 09/11/06 Posts: 63	Originally Posted By: makranger13 Things that Potentiate Codeine (/Enhance Experience): -DXM/ketamine (therapeutic amount, ie. Amount normally taken for cough) -wine - white, not red (small amount) or brandy/rum/vodka -antihistamines ie.benadryl (25-75mg), original Dramamine,Phenyltoloxamine Citrate (2x therapeutic dose) -antacids ie. Sodium bicarbonate mixed into narcotic solution -benzodiazapines (therapeutic dose) -belladona alkaloids - scopolamine especially (therapeutic dose) -Nyquil mix (due to DXM and doxylamine) -St Johns Wort I tried psudaphed a few days ago as a potentiator with codeine. Standard dose (2 tablets) psudaphed with 60 mg codeine. Fantastic!
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#848144 - 02/22/09 09:52 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: rockystuart]
bazzal Stranger Registered: 02/12/09 Posts: 1	where is the best and cheapest site 2 buy codeine without script
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#848160 - 02/22/09 11:26 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: bazzal]
Piling74 Old Hand Registered: 11/07/08 Posts: 496 Loc: united states of america	i would have to say jupiterpharmacy.com...its like 15mg 300 tabs for two twenty plus shipping...i think its called codesul or something...this is the only place i have ever ordered this from. but looking at the name it maybe sulphate instead. it is actually a nutritional supplement. go figure?? dont know how that can be but that what its under on the website.
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#848164 - 02/22/09 11:34 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: Piling74]
Piling74 Old Hand Registered: 11/07/08 Posts: 496 Loc: united states of america	has anyone ever taken an absurd amount, like above the ceiling dose of 400 mg? it makes you itch really bad starting from your head moving all the way down to your toes after several hours. then the next day your lips may be swelled up...i think its some kind of pseudoanopholotic shock. know this is off subject but no one has really answered except myself where to get the product. feel free to delete if this the wrong forum. thanks.
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#848171 - 02/22/09 12:06 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: eluded]
wofer Threadhead Registered: 07/11/08 Posts: 804 Loc: Between a Rock and a Hardplace...	Originally Posted By: eluded LOL.., GOOD ! that was pre-walgreens or eckerds and the chain stores... Fond memorys of past places.... the rexall down the street from my elemetary and Jr. High was a frequent stop on the way home to spend the $0.50 lunch money on candy and other enamel eating corroding sweet treats....lol Dang you guys are old... Just kidding, Im just as old and remember Rexall.. _________________________ A fool is a 27 story window-washer who steps back to admire his work.
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#851648 - 03/01/09 04:17 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: Piling74]
Stevooo Member Registered: 09/26/08 Posts: 118	Originally Posted By: Piling74 has anyone ever taken an absurd amount, like above the ceiling dose of 400 mg? it makes you itch really bad starting from your head moving all the way down to your toes after several hours. then the next day your lips may be swelled up...i think its some kind of pseudoanopholotic shock. know this is off subject but no one has really answered except myself where to get the product. feel free to delete if this the wrong forum. thanks. try jupiterpharmacy or the IOP section. Usually no more than $1 or $1.50 per 15 mg. As far as dosage, the effects, especially for pain relief, top off around 60mg. With an analgesic it will be intensified. But you're better off with 60 mg codeine and 500 mg tylenol or advil than 120 mg codeine with no analgesic. Thats why many ppl prefer hydrocodone and oxy to codeine--hydro always comes with tylenol to serve as a catalyst, and oxy is much much stronger than codeine (I believe 30mg codeine is like 2.5 mg oxy) so naturally, if you take a normal oxy dose like 5mg or 10 mg, its gonna blow away a codeine phosphate pill. I used to use an IOP that went under. They sold T3s (generic though--30 mg codeine, 300 tylenol)--for about $1 a piece. Not sure if theres anything that cheap out there now. But dont waste your time buying 50 mg pills and taking 2 or 3 to boost the effect. Better off taking 30 or 60 mg with tylenol or another OTC pain med to kick it into effect. also--do a google search--there are supplaments that limit the itchiness and insomnia. Plus, anyone taking high doses of opiates at night should have a sleep aid on hand as well. Odds are you may toss and turn for hours if you take 60mg or more of codeine at bedtime.
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#853319 - 03/04/09 01:09 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: Stevooo]
dede Board Addict Registered: 06/18/02 Posts: 345	How do you know if the meds are real or fake. I purchased from Pharma2u and now I am concerned whether or not they are real. They are small white round tablets stamped APS 0509 on one side. They are supposed to be Teva 60 mg codeine phosphate. _________________________ Traveller
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#853341 - 03/04/09 01:52 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: dede]
nephro GRAND Pooh-Bah Registered: 09/04/06 Posts: 9716 Loc: NOT 40!	Either contact Teva or Approved Prescription Services (APS). Or, look at Teva's website: http://www.tevauk.com/generics/productlist/C Scroll down in their little product window to codeine phosphate. The 60mg pills have the product code 231-10-05093. Those numbers indicate that the imprint is probably correct.
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#853377 - 03/04/09 02:32 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: nephro]
dede Board Addict Registered: 06/18/02 Posts: 345	The bar code on the box of 28 60 mg tablets reads as follows: 5 017007 050933. Does that sound right? The last numbers match but the first ones don't. I checked the website and the PIP code listed 107-8856 matches. Unable to locate website for Approved Prescription Services. Many thanks for your assistance. I am very concerned. Edited by dede (03/04/09 02:38 PM) _________________________ Traveller
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#853469 - 03/04/09 04:09 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: dede]
RedBeetle Threadhead Registered: 01/26/09 Posts: 995 Loc: I forgot	Hi, I checked out pharma.org site and this is a link to the 15mg codeine phosphate, or so they believe that is what it was. Maybe that will help.... http://www.pharmer.org/forum/pill-identification/aps-0507 GL $\:\)$ _________________________ Doctors are the same as lawyers; the only difference is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you too. - Anton Chekhov
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#853938 - 03/05/09 09:37 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: RedBeetle]
dede Board Addict Registered: 06/18/02 Posts: 345	Many thanks. I checked out the website and it appears that the tablets are the same except for strength. That makes me feel better about the authenticity of the product. _________________________ Traveller
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#854386 - 03/05/09 10:12 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: dede]
RedBeetle Threadhead Registered: 01/26/09 Posts: 995 Loc: I forgot	Originally Posted By: dede Many thanks. I checked out the website and it appears that the tablets are the same except for strength. That makes me feel better about the authenticity of the product. You're most welcome! This is where I go whenever I get anything that looks weird and always find it. It's definitely a good source to have handy. _________________________ Doctors are the same as lawyers; the only difference is that lawyers merely rob you, whereas doctors rob you and kill you too. - Anton Chekhov
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#893632 - 06/07/09 12:27 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: SeaAngel24]
danny42 Stranger Registered: 06/07/09 Posts: 1	need to buy. how
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#893642 - 06/07/09 01:18 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: danny42]
karmapolice Old Hand Registered: 11/11/03 Posts: 429 Loc: Canada	I received 5 of Starlit's 60mg pure codeine. This was a sample that came with my order. They seem to be good quality and inexpensive.
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#899899 - 06/23/09 07:35 PM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: CARLITOS_WAY]
bazzal99 Stranger Registered: 06/23/09 Posts: 4	HI,DO U NO WERE I CAN PURCHASE SUM CODEINE CHEAP ONLINE THNX????
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#912045 - 07/28/09 12:32 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: SeaAngel24]
2664 Stranger Registered: 07/28/09 Posts: 3	Raymond V McDaniel
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#912046 - 07/28/09 12:34 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: 2664]
2664 Stranger Registered: 07/28/09 Posts: 3	Originally Posted By: 2664 Raymond V McDaniel
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#912050 - 07/28/09 12:40 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: 2664]
2664 Stranger Registered: 07/28/09 Posts: 3	Bad knee and Broke Knee
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#912070 - 07/28/09 02:12 AM Re: Codeine Phosphate [Re: 2664]
tumorman Enthusiast Registered: 08/19/08 Posts: 241	My only experience with this drug was years ago when Raj was reliable he sent me 15s and they were the real deal helped a little with the pain in combo at the time. I do not have any current experiences but they can help when you run low on hydro at the time that is what I used them for Tm
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