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#842144 - 02/08/09 09:11 PM
Re: Vicodin(Hydrocodone) for depression and motivation/self-esteem fixer?
[Re: bill412]
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Newbie
Registered: 06/29/08
Posts: 42
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hello jinx,
The first year or two I used hydrocodone were the greatest years of my life too. I was happy, extremely motivated, had a good job, and found it easy to deal with the opposite sex. I would eat a few vikes and go outside, enjoy life, camp, hike, etc.
Fast forward four years later. I am on Suboxone Therapy for opiate dependence and i know in the back of my head, that one day, there is a hell of a withdrawal waiting for me.
Vikes will probably give you energy and will make life easier. But as your tolerance grows, it will become necessary to do things you never would have thought of doing to obtain the medication you need to feel "normal."
I am not attacking you bro. I did the same thing you are doing now. And I applaud your honesty. But be careful as what i posted above is the nature of the opiate. There are no exceptions, no way around it. wow, great info. I have that same fear as you - the hell of withdrawl waiting for me when I quit. Did you take suboxone to get OFF the vicodin? That's what I have been told is a normal method, but that almost sounds oxymoron to me - lose one addiction and gain another.
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#848780 - 02/23/09 05:34 PM
Re: Vicodin(Hydrocodone) for depression and motivation/self-esteem fixer?
[Re: Sick_Of_Pain]
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Newbie
Registered: 01/18/09
Posts: 41
Loc: Boring Town, USA
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i dont care what anyone says,hydrocodone is the best anti-depressant medication on the market,ive always had a little touch of the blues,kind of anti-social and tried all kinds of anti-depressants i was shocked to see how every single one of them made you feel like you were somebody different then your true self,or just a fogged up head...hydrocodone allows you to be your true self with a big smile and sharp as a tack!,i couldnt believe how social and out going it allowed me to be,its absolutely shocking that the medical industry doesn't use hydrocodone to treat depression or anti-social anxiety because of so called "off label" use..if you suffer from depression and are sick and tired of these [censored] anti-depression meds that turn you into zombies and hide your true personality try hydrocodone,it has one risk though it will cause you to maintain a regular dose schedule because it is kind of addictive but its the best anti-depressant medication ever created!!..and soooooo sad many people will never get to experience true relief from such a horrible disease because its a narcotic medication...i would be curious to know if anyone here gets prescribed hydrocodone from their doctor specifically for depression,id love to know how many doc truly recognize its benefit and scripts it for depression despite it being "off label" use...anyone? Amen to that! I couldn't have said it better, man  From what I've heard anti-depressants take a longass time to work. So, why wait weeks for relief when you can take something that works right away?
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#849113 - 02/24/09 11:50 AM
Re: Vicodin(Hydrocodone) for depression and motivation/self-esteem fixer?
[Re: martind]
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Veteran
Registered: 07/20/08
Posts: 521
Loc: East coast USA
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Narcotics allow you to be your true self? And sharp as a tack? That is groundbreaking medical news and needs to be communicated quickly to whoever writes all of those medication inserts warning patients not to drive, operate machinery or engage in dangerous activity while taking opioid medications. And they are "kind of" addictive? That would be in contrast to "really" addictive or "slightly" addictive? I think you need to re-think the difference between curing the blues and getting high. I'm pretty confident most people would agree with you that getting high is a sure-fire way to cure the blues.
Well put!! Sure getting "high" on Narcotics will mask Depression and Get you Motivated, but it will not FIX your self-esteem, it will also just mask That too!! I personnally know it does help with the depression associated with Cronic Pain for about 4-5 months at moderate doses, after that it Does not even work for the pain at higher doses. Then your worse off! No Pain relieve, No help with the depression associated!.... Also, The large amounts of APAP you must consume with the Hydrocodone (have yet to find pure Hydro tabs) is not good for your health!!! This is why CP sufferers have a harder time finding relief from many doctors. Because we sometime use them to "cure" other things, and start to Self medicate. I've been guilty.
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#850160 - 02/26/09 07:49 AM
Re: Vicodin(Hydrocodone) for depression and motivation/self-esteem fixer?
[Re: martind]
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Journeyman
Registered: 07/21/07
Posts: 63
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martind, are you saying that his vicodin (Hydrocodone)is causing his depression? I experienced depression "the blues" sometimes they feel like "the BLACKS" since I can remember from around the age of 12 or so and probably before that but I can't remember back that far. I've been diagnosed with GAD and chronic depression and have tried several AD's mostly SSRI's and all made me feel worse or "spaced out". I "discovered" hydrocodone about five years ago when I was diagnosed with DDD (degenrative disc disease} and found that it took away my depression and anxiety,made me feel "normal", more social,loving,and just makes me feel a hell of alot better about myself. Up until then I abused alcohol and attempted suicide twice. The hydro helped me to quit drinking 3 years ago and boy do I miss those hangovers,blacouts, etc. My point is if someone chooses to "self medicate" their depression/anxiety with hydro or other "legal" opiates, then they should have the right to. Trust me, emotional/mental pain can hurt just as much as physical pain, I know I suffer from both.
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#850512 - 02/26/09 06:40 PM
Re: Vicodin(Hydrocodone) for depression and motivation/self-esteem fixer?
[Re: martind]
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Newbie
Registered: 06/01/07
Posts: 47
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wow my story is almost identical to rocker61....and those that keep saying stuff about finding this "underlying" problem that causes the blues,its just something your probably never understand,and lucky you dont have to experience chemical imbalances in the brain,even when everything around you couldnt be better your brain throws your moods into a complete tailspin,very frustrating its something a shrink could never fix because there is no "underlying issue" and it sucks having to risk liver damage using hydrocodone but with DDD(degenerative disk disease) like rocker has im killing two birds with one stone using this particular medication,im more happy,social pain free and outgoing just really living and enjoying life now,its alot better then living in a foggy daze with crazy brain zaps and the same addictive nature using SSRI to treat depression... and novakitty oxycodone probably contains tylenol or ibuprofen i think,my best bet was the 15/80 custom compounds like i use to get from medsnationwide those were the best,but thanks to the DEA its no more,shame the little guy cant live a pain/blues free existence without a hellish heap of hoops to jump through...and no Kratom didnt seem to work for me(nice for taking an edge off a withdrawl though)
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#850713 - 02/27/09 07:39 AM
Re: Vicodin(Hydrocodone) for depression and motivation/self-esteem fixer?
[Re: Sick_Of_Pain]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 05/01/08
Posts: 2630
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wow my story is almost identical to rocker61....and those that keep saying stuff about finding this "underlying" problem that causes the blues,its just something your probably never understand,and lucky you dont have to experience chemical imbalances in the brain,even when everything around you couldnt be better your brain throws your moods into a complete tailspin,very frustrating its something a shrink could never fix because there is no "underlying issue" and it sucks having to risk liver damage using hydrocodone but with DDD(degenerative disk disease) like rocker has im killing two birds with one stone using this particular medication,im more happy,social pain free and outgoing just really living and enjoying life now,its alot better then living in a foggy daze with crazy brain zaps and the same addictive nature using SSRI to treat depression...
and novakitty oxycodone probably contains tylenol or ibuprofen i think,my best bet was the 15/80 custom compounds like i use to get from medsnationwide those were the best,but thanks to the DEA its no more,shame the little guy cant live a pain/blues free existence without a hellish heap of hoops to jump through...and no kratom didnt seem to work for me(nice for taking an edge off a withdrawl though) We obviusly have a difference of opinion on the wisdom of using hydrocodone to treat your problem with the "blues." However, there should be no difference of opinion on two of your points: -SSRI medications are not addictive by definition -Oxycodonoe does not contain Tylenol or ibuprofen
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