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#84922 - 03/08/04 05:42 AM
Ultram - Tramadol
   
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Tramadol hydrochloride is a centrally acting analgesic. The chemical name for Tramadol hydrochloride is (±)cis-2- [(dimethylamino)methyl]-1-(3-methoxyphenyl) cyclohexanol hydrochloride. The molecular weight of Tramadol hydrochloride is 299.8. Tramadol hydrochloride is a white, bitter, crystalline and odorless powder. It is readily soluble in water and ethanol and has a pKa of 9.41. The water/n-octanol partition coefficient is 1.35 at pH 7. Ultram tablets contain 50 mg of Tramadol hydrochloride and are white in color. Inactive ingredients in the tablet are corn starch, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, lactose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, polyethylene glycol, polysorbate 80, sodium starch glycolate, titanium dioxide and wax. INDICATIONS Tramadol is indicated for the management of moderate to moderately severe pain. DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION For the treatment of painful conditions Tramadol 50 mg to 100 mg can be administered as needed for relief every four to six hours, not to exceed 400 mg per day. For moderate pain Tramadol 50 mg may be adequate as the initial dose, and for more severe pain, Tramadol 100 mg is usually more effective as the initial dose. Individualization of Dose: Available data do not suggest that a dosage adjustment is necessary in elderly patients 65 to 75 years of age unless they also have renal or hepatic impairment. For elderly patients over 75 years old, not more than 300 mg/day in divided doses as above is recommended. In all patients with creatine clearance less than 30 ml/min, it is recommended that the dosing interval of Tramadol HCl be increased to 12 hours with a maximum daily dose of 200 mg. Since only 7% of an administered dose is removed by hemodialysis, dialysis patients can receive their regular dose on the day of dialysis. The recommended dose for patients with cirrhosis is 50 mg every 12 hours. Patients receiving chronic carbamazepine doses up to 800 mg daily may require up to twice the recommended dose of Tramadol HCl. HOW SUPPLIED Ultram 50 mg (white, film-coated capsule-shaped tablet) is engraved "McNeil" on one side and "659" on the other side. Dispense in a tight container. Store at controlled room temperature (up to 25°C, 77°F). PATIENT INFORMATION Tramadol HCl is used to relieve moderate to severe pain. This drug should be used as directed and only for the period of time determined by the physician. This drug can cause dizziness or tiredness and in some cases nausea, constipation and headache. Avoid the use of alcohol or other depressants such as sleeping pills or tranquilizers. Be especially careful when performing potentially hazardous tasks such as driving or operating machinery while taking this drug. Please tell your pharmacist or physician if you are pregnant or nursing.
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#84923 - 04/19/06 03:35 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/tramadol.htm Drugs and Chemicals of Concern Quote:
Tramadol (Trade Name: Ultram®) July 2004 DEA/OD/ODE/200407/27
Introduction:
Tramadol was approved for marketing as a noncontrolled analgesic in 1995 under the trade name of Ultram®. Although the company initially claimed that this substance produced only very weak narcotic effects, recent data demonstrates that opioid activity is the overriding contributor to the drug’s pharmacological activity. Because of inadequate product labeling and lack of established abuse potential, many physicians felt this drug was perfectly safe to prescribe to recovering narcotic addicts and to known narcotic abusers. As a consequence, a large number of reports of abuse and dependence have been received.
Licit Uses:
Tramadol is approved for the treatment of moderate to moderately severe pain in adults. Although FDA has still not recommended the scheduling of this substance in the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), a requirement necessary for DEA to place a substance under control, they have required the company to inform physicians about recent abuse data and to include new information under the "drug Abuse and Dependence" section in the approved labeling. The labeling now contains the following language:
"Ultram® has a potential to cause psychic and physical dependence of the morphine-type (μ-opioid). The drug is associated with craving, drug-seeking behavior and tolerance development. Cases of abuse and dependence on Ultram® have been reported. Ultram® should not be used in opioid-dependent patients. Ultram® can reinitiate physical dependence in patients that have been previously dependent or chronically using other opioids. In patients with a tendency to drug abuse, a history of drug dependence, or are chronically using opioids, treatment with Ultram® is not recommended."
Chemistry/Pharmacology:
Tramadol is a centrally acting synthetic opioid. Opioid activity is due to both the parent compound and the more active O-desmethylated metabolite. Apart from analgesia, Tramadol may produce a number of symptoms including dizziness, somnolence, nausea, and constipation similar to other opioids.
Tramadol is well absorbed orally. It can be administered in 50 to 100 mg doses as needed for pain relief every 4 to 6 hours, not to exceed 400 mg/day. Seizures have been reported in patients receiving recommended doses but are more likely in high doses associated with abuse of this medication.
Poison Control data (2002 AAPCC Annual Report) indicates that there were 2,400 exposures of Tramadol reported to poison control centers. Of those, 108 resulted in a major medical outcome and 8 resulted in death.
Illicit Uses:
Tramadol is abused for its opiate effects. The drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) is a database which provides data on drug related episodes reported by hospital emergency rooms. In 2002, there were 1,714 episodes for Tramadol and a total of 7,890 episodes from 1998 through 2002. DAWN medical examiners reported that Tramadol was involved in 95 drug-related deaths in 2002 and a total of 382 deaths from 1998 through 2002.
The National Forensic Laboratory System (NFLIS) and System to Retrieve drug Evidence (STRIDE) are both DEA databases that collect scientifically verified data on analyzed samples in state/local and DEA forensic laboratories, respectively. In 2003, there were 267 exhibits of Tramadol in NFLIS and 2 exhibits in STRIDE. These relatively small numbers are most probably a reflection of the uncontrolled status of Tramadol in the U.S.
User Population:
The current pattern of Tramadol abuse in the US involves street drug addicts, chronic pain patients, and health professionals. The lack of control and lack of urine toxicology screen for this medication have probably contributed significantly to the availability of this drug.
Illicit distribution:
Like other legal pharmaceuticals with abuse potential, diversion of this medication occurs in a number of ways including prescription fraud. As an uncontrolled substance, there are no CSA regulations regarding manufacturing, distribution, or prescription of this medication.
Control status:
Tramadol is not controlled under the CSA but is under review for possible control.
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#84930 - 07/19/06 04:07 AM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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I used to take Tramadol for my PHN (post herpetic neuralgia) but take lortab 10 now. The Tramadol wasn't as effective for the pain but it definately was a better mood elevator. I took 100mgs when i woke up in the morning followed by 50mg increments throughout the day. Tramadol seems to last very long so you will always have some steady pain relief if you take it consistently. I am considering trying to combine low doses of Tramadol with the lortab 10. I am going to talk to my doctor about it the next time I have a consult. He will probably not want to do overlapping treatments but its worth asking about. Anyone who is looking for some pain relief this stuff is the best you will find without a prescription. It's very cheap too.
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#84931 - 11/17/06 11:32 AM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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Thought I would post this just as FYI. I've seen sveral generic versions of Tramadol and thought I would start a thread where the various generics could be listed as to shape and imprint; 1. round with COR 127 2. oblong with 377 3. oval with 93 on 1 side and 58 on the other 4. small oblong that I can't remember imprint for 5. flatter oval whose markings I can't remember I know there are more so if anyone can add then please do.
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#84933 - 11/18/06 12:41 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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5. flatter oval whose markings I can't remember
PLIVA 616 markings on one side, no markings on the other.
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#84936 - 01/06/07 09:01 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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I used to take Tramadol for my PHN (post herpetic neuralgia) but take lortab 10 now. The Tramadol wasn't as effective for the pain but it definately was a better mood elevator. I took 100mgs when i woke up in the morning followed by 50mg increments throughout the day. Tramadol seems to last very long so you will always have some steady pain relief if you take it consistently.
I am considering trying to combine low doses of Tramadol with the lortab 10. I am going to talk to my doctor about it the next time I have a consult. He will probably not want to do overlapping treatments but its worth asking about.
Anyone who is looking for some pain relief this stuff is the best you will find without a prescription. It's very cheap too.
Please, definitely talk to your Doc before combining Tramadol with anything else, especially the Lortabs. I've heard of severe reactions when combining Tramadol/Ultram with some other meds. Some people even have seizures. Just be careful, ok??
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#84937 - 01/06/07 09:56 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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Registered: 09/04/06
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Ultram or Tramadol have NO narcotic effect whatsoever. NADA. These posts about it are hilarious, because people have been snowed, conned, convinced they get a narcotic effect from this drug. Oh Lord, what will they come up with next? Sorry if I rained on anyone's parade. RR
Tramadol has a weak affinity for the mu-opioid receptor, therefore having some narcotic effect but not as much as weak opioids such as codeine.
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#84938 - 01/06/07 10:02 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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It may be true in fact that there is no narcotic "effect" using Tramadol but I have to say I've been finding Tramadol very useful to help control pain I've had for a few years in my shoulder and help transition away from hydro. I still take hydro for severe pain, but Tramadol seems to work for me very well on "not so bad days" and I've been able to start going days at a time now without taking any hydro at all.  I've been taking hydro almost daily for about two years now and have been afraid of the WD's and short supply of hydro (or ridiculous expense if you can find it at all.) Tramadol has been a lifesaver for me so far... No, Tramadol isn't going to give you much of a buzz or "high" but sorry, that's not why we're here. It does, for me, seem to dull the pain a good amount. I'd highly recommend if you're looking for an alternative to hydro. I think it's just different effects for different people, nobody is getting "snowballed." For example, for some reason when I do go to the doc, I usually get Darvocet, which is completely worthless to me. It gives me a bit of a "buzz" (along with a nauseous feeling)but does not do much in the way of dulling pain, for me at least. I know many people find Darvocet to be very effective for them. To each his or her own. Good luck! FYI, the 100mg Tramadol I've got right now is from Starlite, which is the original name brand, so they say. Funny thing is, since it is not controlled, it was not seized by customs. I got 1/2 packages from Joe... First one came through fine with my 75 Rivotril but the second came with a LL and the Rivotril gone but they left me the Tramadol that was in the same package. I thought that to be odd, since they say "ordering any meds overseas can be dangerous- you don't know what you're getting." These Tramadol, as I mentioned in another post, look like they could be tabs of anything. Point being, if you're looking for an alternative for hydro or other pain med (not for getting a "buzz") try IOP's and you can get Tramadol (100mg or better, 50mg are only available in the states), name brand and reasonably priced without fear of having them seized. Not bad, IMO. Good luck, hope that will help some!
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#84939 - 01/06/07 10:08 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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Registered: 12/17/05
Posts: 163
Loc: TX
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I used to take Tramadol for my PHN (post herpetic neuralgia) but take lortab 10 now. The Tramadol wasn't as effective for the pain but it definately was a better mood elevator. I took 100mgs when i woke up in the morning followed by 50mg increments throughout the day. Tramadol seems to last very long so you will always have some steady pain relief if you take it consistently.
I am considering trying to combine low doses of Tramadol with the lortab 10. I am going to talk to my doctor about it the next time I have a consult. He will probably not want to do overlapping treatments but its worth asking about.
Anyone who is looking for some pain relief this stuff is the best you will find without a prescription. It's very cheap too.
Please, definitely talk to your Doc before combining Tramadol with anything else, especially the Lortabs. I've heard of severe reactions when combining Tramadol/Ultram with some other meds. Some people even have seizures. Just be careful, ok??
Anyone have any insight into this? As I mentioned in my previous post, I've been transitioning a bit from hydro to Tramadol but on some days I may take a 100mg Tramadol in the morning, have a "bad" day pain wise and take a 10/325 for severe pain (or half of one if it's not unbearably bad.) I don't take them at the same time, usually several hours apart but sometimes in the same day, at least. Anyone know of any specific reactions to having both in the system at the same time? I've not found any specific contradictions online but I am no doctor. Thanks as always!
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#84940 - 01/07/07 01:07 AM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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Registered: 03/02/02
Posts: 359
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I've been taking Tramadol for some time. Occasionally I get a few hydros in between. Last time, when I had a surgical procedure done, I stop the Tramadol, take the hydros only, and then go back to Tramadol. But have taken both the same day, too, and when you do that you can't almost feel the hydros at all. As to seizures, doing this did not in the least give me any problems. But taking too much Tramadol will let you know how dangerous this stuff is. I can't believe how high the doses some people here are taking. I could and would never do this. Tramadol with hydros together is okay, but high doses of Tramadol with hydros or without hydros probably wouldn't be okay at all.
Tramadol doesn't work fast and powerfully like hydros. It begins to work well when taken for some time. Real well. But it is a very dangerous drug, nevertheless.
Edited by chantal (01/07/07 01:20 AM)
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#84941 - 01/07/07 03:09 AM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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I've been taking Tramadol for some time. Occasionally I get a few hydros in between. Last time, when I had a surgical procedure done, I stop the Tramadol, take the hydros only, and then go back to Tramadol. But have taken both the same day, too, and when you do that you can't almost feel the hydros at all. As to seizures, doing this did not in the least give me any problems. But taking too much Tramadol will let you know how dangerous this stuff is. I can't believe how high the doses some people here are taking. I could and would never do this. Tramadol with hydros together is okay, but high doses of Tramadol with hydros or without hydros probably wouldn't be okay at all. Tramadol doesn't work fast and powerfully like hydros. It begins to work well when taken for some time. Real well. But it is a very dangerous drug, nevertheless.
I agree with Chantal 100 %. Sometimes you can use Tramadol to help taper off if you have been on Hrydro for a while and can no longer get them for what ever reason, but to take them together it can be quite dangerous. They are two of the same, although in your mind Hydro "feels" much better. (Does that make scence?) Hydro gives you a "buzz" Tramadol doesn't (atleast for me) but they are two of the same...to mix them and take too much of each can be a really bad combo....Dawn
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#84946 - 03/25/07 11:31 AM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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Registered: 12/04/06
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Hi all, Just started taking Tramadol HCL for moderate to severe arthritis in my spine. Two 50 mgs tabs did NOT take away my pain, but three DID, with no side effects whatsoever. I almost felt as though I'd gotten my life back. My concern, however, is tolerance. I'm at the 400 mg threshold now and it doesn't seem to be working as well as it did when I started taking it a week ago. FYI: I'm a big person and am wondering if it's possible for me to safely take more of it or whether that's a dumb idea. Any advice (what to ask/tell my doctor)? Overall, this is a good medication. Thanks in advance!
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#84948 - 03/25/07 02:24 PM
Re: Ultram - Tramadol
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