Sorry if I'm betraying my noobness but I'm interested in trying clonazepam, having heard good reports about it. I see some IOP's eg Airsealed sell a 2mg strength tablet and I am wondering how strong that would be compared to alprazolam and diazepam, both of which I've tried.

According to this chart, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_benzodiazepines clonazepam , 2mg clonazepam would be equivalent to 40mg diazepam. That sounds like something that would pack quite a hefty punch - is the chart accurate ?

It is probably accurate (though the writer left out a load of leading zeros which I have just edited), and the 2mg clonazepam pills are not suitable for anxiety. They should only be used by patients with epilepsy who have tolerance that is unavoidable.

2mg alprazolam pills are a nonsensical product.

There is indeed no reason why it should not be prescribed for anxiety, and would be a much better choice than the short-acting drugs. But just not at a crazy dose like 2mg. 0.25mg would be a more sensible starting dose.

Ive taken it for anxiety it is good and lasts long.

I think if doctors prescribed this in proper dosage, in limited amounts, there would be a lot less people suffering alprazolam addiction.

Benzo charts are total bullocks. The strength of a certain benzo varies from person to person.

Of course, but you can say that about every recommended drug dose out there. They are only averages, and can only be taken as such. The problem is, no doctor can ever know how much of a drug a particular patient will find ideal, so they have to start somewhere and then adjust accordingly.

Paediatric medicine is prescribed mostly on a mg/kg basis (based on the weight of the baby); even this does not take into account the many other variables involved.

They used to use a drop-distance table for determining the length of the rope required to hang people, but there will always the the off poor bugger who strangles or gets decapitated. What more can you do?!

2mg clonzepam= 4X10mg Valium=2mg Alprazolam.
Half lives longer on clonnies & vals.
Supposedly making withdrawal more manageable
according to the Ashton method.
Agree with Nephro's comments.

Maybe test with a mannequin??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7qK89oHnGI

They have done, but it cannot predict how strong each person's neck is. By analogy, people metabolise drugs differently, their brains are different, and it is impossible to predict before prescribing.

In future, medical science may help us get closer, but we will never be able to get it exactly right.

I would say 2mg clonazepam = 20mg diazepam = 1.5mg alprazolam

All equally useless in cases of anything but mild anxiety, IMO. That dose of alprazolam has worn off before your anxiety has been dealt with and the other two seem to stretch their effects out over time so much as to be useless in anything but high doses.

Of course, there are the people that claim they took 5mg of diazepam and passed out, but I'd wager that 99.9% of them are feeling a placebo effect...

wrong .5mg clonazepam is equivilent to 10 mg valium and the same with xanax brand is all the same once you have a tolerance sometimes i take 12 of my 2mg caraco brand clonazepam and feel nothing and i end up taking 6 of my greenstone bars then finnaly maby a little something i need to get my tolerance down like the old high school days, k-pins

this^

And all those people are used in studies to produce average figures. They will be correct, on average. They are needed by doctors to estimate what dose to prescribe to patients. If there were no published equivalency charts, doctors would have no idea how much of a certain drug to prescribe.

I haven't been taking clonazepam for that long but from where I stand I can easily see myself taking 2mg doses for anxiety. Right now I'm taking 1mg twice a day and am trying not to increase.

It's the starting dose that sets up the whole thing. If you start on 1mg, you're unlikely to reduce it, but very likely to increase it, unless the doctor gives you a consistent quantity each month and you don't supplement from other sources.

Klonopin is quite strong and lasts a long time. It's my personal favorite to eliminate stress in my life.

klonopin is my maintenance med for my PD. i love it; no "high", long half-life, is consistent for keeping my attacks to a low level.

my dosage ranges from .5-3mg/day because i try not to stay at too high a level; i raise is when i am walking into a stressful day, drop it when i'm not stressed. the half-life allows me to vary it without severe effects.

if you're treating PD, i'd say .5-1mg/day as a starting dose (2x/day) and titrate to what feels right for you. don't go higher than 2mg/day on a consistent basis or you will be in trouble if you ever get short on supply. benzo withdrawal is nothing to play around with.

Doctors these days just hand out benzos like candy.. You need to find a good Doc that will actually listen to your problems and prescribe the right meds. Good Doctors are hard to find these days. I went to a psychiatrist and talked to him for about 15 minutes and I got scripts for Ativan AND Klonopin. A little overkill in my opinion.

you found a doctor that hands out benzos like candy?

are you in the US? i've NEVER found a dr. to do that since about 1995.

they don't hand them out like candy, thats for sure. but chances are you are more likely to get them with less visits from a psychiatrist than you would a regular doctor. you go to a regular doctor and they'll run you through a regiment of SSRIs and SNRIs before anything else.