I have pretty severe anxiety. GAD what doctor says but whatever my doctor's are [censored]. I am taking xanax right now and it really helps. My problem is it kinda doesn't last that long. And i really dont wanna take like 3 or 4mg of xanax on a bad day. ON bad days (without any meds) I usually wont even leave the house. I didn't go out for 17 days one time. I even quit smoking cigarettes b/c i was too nervous to drive to the store. I guess thats a plus. OK sorry to ramble on but I've read that clons and vals are longer lasting benzo's. Could someone explain the difference between the too. i.e. duration, effects, how they make you feel and how quick a tolerance will build. I am about to order some just not sure. Thanks in advance for any help given. Any info/ opinions will really help!

Oh one more thing. Please don't give me a link to some scientific chart explaining half lifes and chemical makeups. I've looked at all of them and they really dont help me make a decision. I would prefer personal opinions or experiences. Thanks again

aklo82,

Myself, I do not have Xanax experience. Many here have, and am sure will be seeing your thread* and begin to answer your questions. I only know that Vals and Somas are great for tapering.

my best wishes for you,


sarate

If you have GAD, then alprazolam is not the med you should be taking; you should be taking - if you have to - a longer acting med like clonazepam or diazepam. It would probably be more sensible to go down the SSRI route first before taking benzos, but it sounds like it's too late for that if you're currently dependant on alprazolam.

I was under the impression that alprazolam was mainly for panic attacks due to it's very quick onset of action. Even if you do suffer from panic attacks, if you are on clonazepam or diazepam, they should ease any anxiety enough so that you don't get these attacks.
No doubt alprazolam does get rid of GAD too because it's such a potent drug, but taking 3 or 4 doses a day, long term, is a recipe for disaster.

I don't think anyone can answer your question whether clonazepam or diazepam will be the best drug for you, because it's your body and only you will ever know what feels more effective.

I personally take a small amount of clonazepam each morning (1mg) and, for me, it lasts pretty much all day.
In 3 years, I haven't needed to up the dose, and I wouldn't either because I'm sh?t scared of all these benzo withdrawal stories. No doubt I'll suffer a bit when I finally decide to stop taking clonazepam, but I'd rather only have to taper off 1mg a day rather than 3-4mg or more.
You gain a tolerance to alprazolam pretty quick, and I think it's the same for diazepam - but that's all subjective; everyone's body is different in the end of the day.

I would say stop taking the alprazolam and definitely switch to either clonazepam or diazepam, but again, you'll have to sample both to find out what works best for you. Maybe one of those meds will do nothing for you and the other will work wonders. You will have to find that out yourself rather than relying on what people on this board say.
Even if your doctor is a bit of a prick, he's still far more qualified than me and the majority of posters on this board to talk about anxiety issues.

Good luck, anyway.

I've never had anxiety like you do except when I fly (had them stop the plane once after the doors where shut and it was backed up, to let me off years ago before 9/11) so what helped me might not help you.
I had so much anxiety and stress I actually had huge ugly rashes on my back for years that I figured was a skin issue. One day I took some valium and I didn't notice but the itching stopped. After taking just a little before bed for sleeping I noticed after a good week that my back wasn't all bloody anymore and the rash was healing. For this rash to heal like this the only reason I can figure is the valium makes me calmer and helps with pain. When my neorologist (spelling) met me, within 2 minutes said I have high anxiety and put me on lexapro which did nothing. I thought he was nuts at the time and I felt insulted.
Xanax makes me way to sleepy to ever use during the day but of course that might not happen to you.
Remember people say Xanax can be one of the hardest drugs to come off of later in life so I would try other methods before using xanax everyday.
Go find another Dr. so you can enjoy your life. They have to find the reason for your anxiety and good Dr.s are out there that can help but sometimes it takes time finding that Dr. that's right for you so don't give up.
K

I've taken them all. Xan, Clona, Val & Ativan. You are right Xanax hits you hard but leaves you quick. I would say Clonazepam has worked the best for me. I don't take it every single day but when I do, it lasts. I've always been on 0.5 mgs and have never had to up the dose. Valium is okay but it seemed like I always had to take a higher dose to feel something which is not good because I like stepping in with the lowest dose that I can. Valium also made me feel hungover the next day. Why not ask your doctor to let you try a weeks worth of Clonazepam and then a weeks worth of Valium to compare the two. Just make sure you wait a while in between the trials because both meds stay in your system a while. Good Luck and remember never be too shy to try herbal supplements. Perhaps that way you can switch between benzos and herbals meds and not get addicted and have to worry about withdrawals.

It's a nice idea, but I'll tell you what will probably happen if they do that: they'll prescribe clonazepam at the equivalent of 120mg diazepam a day until dependence occurs, then prescribe 20mg diazepam per day and put the poor bugger in hospital.

Then they'll blame it on the diazepam for being an evil drug.

Xanax is much stronger and shorter acting than the other meds. klonipin is second in strenghth among the well knowns. valuim is at the bottom. they both last much longer though. I am going to post a detox scedual seperate from this, due to all the confussion Ive seen on the board and this is from personal exsperience. .25 xanax gave me a seizure when I detoxed off of it but I came frrom 6 mg a day. colonipin also has been tough but valium i never had a problem with

aklo,

I suffer from severe anxiety myself and I have also had experience with Xanax, Valium, and Klonopin for many years.

You want to get Klonopin. Some people love Valium, but I personally hate it. It makes me feel very numb and emotionless and can only be felt for about 4 hours even though it stays in your system far longer.

.5mg of Klonopin can be felt for nearly the entire day and the strange thing about Klonopin is that you really don't "feel" it. You're just relaxed and calm while on it, you don't feel as if you are taking a drug at all.

Xanax is honestly only good for panic attacks and that's how it should be prescribed. It loses it's effectiveness if taken every day and can make you feel retarded on doses of 1mg or more.

For someone with bad anxiety, I would reccomend they get on Klonopin and take a Xanax as needed when they have a panic attack. They certainly shouldn't be taking Xanax everyday.

Just my 2 cents.

ok this is aklo82 banned for rec drug use. All i did was pm someone to ask if they were gonna rip me off on oxy's. This person always left this pharm good feedback but with no ordering experiences documented. I am special ops military who no longer does not exist according to NSA. I have no medical records and its hard to get real med care. This pharmlandmx was able to provide me with Xanax overnight which really helped/ My mission was blacklisted as it was not a success me and one other comrade made it back from latin american. Acccording to US gov i do not exist. I am ok except for some real paranoia that people are gonna come break down my door down. My other comrade is not so lucky as he is a multiple amputee and his main pain med as of now is alcohol which is hardly sufficient. I in no way made an attempt to use this site for rec drug use. I am simply wanted to get feedback if i was gonna get ripped off on oxy's as they are expensive. Not to mention the people I have to pay to reroute my IP address through multiple locations to keep myself safe. Other than this ban from one user thank you everyone else. I am trying too survive here and i think i will make it. I hope you guys will understand. Thank You. I just made an order for clon's cuz the last thing i need is anxiety and a huge xanax withdrawal. Cant believe these people banned me.

Did you post the detox schedule yet? I'm hoping to stop the benzos by summer time, with the help of my doctor of course, but would love to hear some personal experience. My anxiety is generally controlled with Paxil, but I use Benzos seasonally. My last detox was about 21 days and worked perfectly. I forgot the name of the medicine, howevrer.

Looking through Aklo82's posts, 2 are in the Sin Bin. They might be the posts responsible.

if your friend was a multiple amputee as of recent, he should have no problem getting pain meds at all. i am confused by this.

well it was in a hospital in latin america... as far as us gov is concerned we do not exist. NO SS no medial records no nothing. And there trying to find us. It's been a few months since we made it back and he still seems like he's hurt. Infection maybe, just pain, maybe something went wrong, it wasn't very clean. I hate takin oxy its not for me or "rec use" I just love how i was instantly banned without anyone knowing the facts . Right now i've been trying to hang around hospice trying to find a doctor who is leaving that i can try to bribe or convince to go to see him. I'm probably gonna have to try to get us to a different country. I haven't had any licensed medical care in over 7 years (not even military). I thought it would be great to finally make it back to the US, but its not for me. Nothin is working for me in this "great country" I signed my life away and my life is something i know longer have. sorry to ramble this will probably be my last post(risk) but to those who helped thank you....
ps Im not gonna go terrorize innocent americans like others in my position have. Maybe i should right a book though, writing seems to ease my mind sometime

i heard that frontierpharmacy wasn't shipping orders on some of the other threads.
This they only message i found in the sin bin?
It was because of a pm i sent someone about the validity of a source that was being openly discussed and he seemed to know more than he was posting. I am sorry, I am sorry, I am not a rec drug user, i am someone who fights for freedom and now someone who has lost his.
G,bye
Thanks all

Please forgive me as this is none of my business, but I suspect the 2 reasons you were banned are here:

http://www.drugbuyers.com/freeboard/ubbt...true#Post836135

I think you should definitely write some more fiction. You seem to have a very creative imagination.

Yes, his story gave me a good chuckle as well.