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#825062 - 01/05/09 04:59 PM YES OR NO.
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Did suboxone help you or not. Just want to know a simply ? yes ....or..... no, Im going in on thursday, I want to stop. my new year promise, please have a a good outlook, and I really want to kick a 10 a day habit, please have a good outlook on this post. Im tired of being under the hydro. grip. thank you all ....and have a fine 2009 ! 4ever

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#825069 - 01/05/09 05:07 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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#825197 - 01/05/09 07:54 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: desdes]
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thank you for a right to the point..... yes or no ! I really going for this ! thanks 4ever

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#825236 - 01/05/09 08:39 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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#825350 - 01/06/09 05:04 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: tunemanrss]
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Yes
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#825437 - 01/06/09 09:12 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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#825444 - 01/06/09 09:25 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: BryansFan]
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You will be amazed, so absolutely it works. No WD's at all.

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#825511 - 01/06/09 11:09 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: AllAlone]
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yes indeed!
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#825536 - 01/06/09 11:55 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: kevin8462]
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#826503 - 01/08/09 10:45 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: martind]
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Absolutely
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#826508 - 01/08/09 10:56 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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 Originally Posted By: 4everpain
Did suboxone help you or not. Just want to know a simply ? yes ....or..... no, Im going in on thursday, I want to stop. my new year promise, please have a a good outlook, and I really want to kick a 10 a day habit, please have a good outlook on this post. Im tired of being under the hydro. grip. thank you all ....and have a fine 2009 ! 4ever


There are no simple answers like a Yes or a No
Help you do what?
Do you understand you will be under the grip of Suboxone?
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#826512 - 01/08/09 11:03 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: Administrator]
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yes and no
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#826797 - 01/09/09 04:41 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: PrivateRealm]
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#826808 - 01/09/09 06:03 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: wlly321]
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Yes it did help, the problem is you become dependent upon the suboxone. Although it does have less potential for abuse as you reach a certain level and hit a cealing.

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#826809 - 01/09/09 06:21 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: nunia720]
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I have a lot of pains and no, sub did not help me. I really wish I could say otherwise, but this is my honest truth.

I was put on sub for a pain killer and not to detox me. So I really don't know if used just for WDs that may be a whole other story.
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#827119 - 01/09/09 05:29 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: Administrator]
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can you tell me more about this grip ?and can't find the pm button anymore..........how do you pm a reply ? thank you with all my heart. 4ever

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#827120 - 01/09/09 05:33 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: Administrator]
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I all ready have been a member of VIP FOR YEARS . Thank you all.please help all we can ..........4ever

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#827121 - 01/09/09 05:51 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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wonderful to see all the yes replies. i may be going the sub route after my surgery.

Good luck 4EP! keep us updated on how everything works out for you.
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#827169 - 01/09/09 07:55 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: funkybreakz]
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I will, im going in on the 13th tuesday.going tell the doc the whole truth...SO IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN ! 10 TO 13 HYDROS A DAY ! No reason to give false info ,if I want to kick ! Still have a bad back...but hydros is not the helping, so need to kick...........thanks to all...will keep this post going...4ever

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#827175 - 01/09/09 08:13 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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I would like ask a ?..what dose this drug fell like ? plus how long will I be at doc 's office ? going in @9:30 am ..plus 325.00 is the cost.




















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#827187 - 01/09/09 08:44 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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i have heard that many are there for a better part of the day while the doc titrates you up to a comfortable dose, although many that have gone this route could give a better answer than i. and i would also think it varies depending on on the doc.
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#827662 - 01/11/09 08:45 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: Administrator]
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 Originally Posted By: 4everpain
Did suboxone help you or not. Just want to know a simply ? yes ....or..... no, Im going in on thursday, I want to stop. my new year promise, please have a a good outlook, and I really want to kick a 10 a day habit, please have a good outlook on this post. Im tired of being under the hydro. grip. thank you all ....and have a fine 2009 ! 4ever


There are no simple answers like a Yes or a No
Help you do what?
Do you understand you will be under the grip of Suboxone?
so this is hard to kick too ? and i can't send pm.

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#827668 - 01/11/09 09:09 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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i have read that a fast taper, (2 weeks or so) is quite easy with no WDs. i have also read that when taken for months at a time, the WD is just as bad as hydro or oxy, is some cases even worse as the half life is very long and the WDs are drug out for weeks instead of days.

do a fast taper seems to be the consensus and many report little to no withdrawal.
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#827669 - 01/11/09 09:09 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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I have a close friend that is a counselor for a impatient rehab clinic. He said the resident doctor will only use the suboxone for 7 days, after that, no more. If you have "real pain issuse" that could be a problem. Might drive you back to where you started. From what I have read, if you go to a suboxone clinic, they want you to do a 6 month program that includes therapy and/or counseling. I am not sure about the percentage of success rates for either. I have also read that some people take sub for pain and plan to be on it for long term-at low doseage. I apologize for going off topic, I tried to pm you 4ever, but no able to.
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#827819 - 01/11/09 04:22 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: kevin8462]
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7 days will never get me off hydro !I also could not pm u ? but two doctors in my city..one is meth. the is sub. 325 cash for 7 days. don't want to do meth, also don't want to fly to docs, down south.got all this from radio comm.www.turntohelp.com

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#827824 - 01/11/09 04:46 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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Going to Methadone fron hydro is nuts, IMO. Sub, maybe.
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#827825 - 01/11/09 04:46 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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I think you can still get it on-line , but you need a form ( on line). that your doctor fills in to get them Now if you had all the info they ask, I have no idea if there going to call you doctor.

http://www.prestomart.com/cgi-bin/store/...&AddToCart.y=15



Where else would someone get this without getting your doctor involved? anwhere at all have this for on-line purchase?

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#828301 - 01/12/09 04:53 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: 4everpain]
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 Originally Posted By: 4everpain
7 days will never get me off hydro


Don't be so sure. The amount of hydro you were taking per day is not so much. I am on day 6 of suboxone and I haven't felt any withdrawals since the first dose. I think that for some people... those who started to take hydro for pain but now the hydro isn't working... these are exactly the kind of people who would benefit from 7 days of sub. It would be the best of both worlds. You are off hydro without any discomfort and your body is not yet dependent on suboxone. It's worth a try and I think I'm going to try it. Tomorrow is day 7 for me. What's to lose? If there is pain I can always just start taking the sub again.

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#828631 - 01/13/09 09:35 AM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: Dennit]
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 Originally Posted By: Dennit
 Originally Posted By: 4everpain
7 days will never get me off hydro


Don't be so sure. The amount of hydro you were taking per day is not so much. I am on day 6 of suboxone and I haven't felt any withdrawals since the first dose. I think that for some people... those who started to take hydro for pain but now the hydro isn't working... these are exactly the kind of people who would benefit from 7 days of sub. It would be the best of both worlds. You are off hydro without any discomfort and your body is not yet dependent on suboxone. It's worth a try and I think I'm going to try it. Tomorrow is day 7 for me. What's to lose? If there is pain I can always just start taking the sub again.


I'm hoping that you are careful about discontinuing Suboxone cold turkey from a dose greater than 2 mg. From what I have seen, even with only 7 days of being on this medication, a serious withdrawal syndrome can happen. Might take 3-4 days to present but it is very probable. And the pain from that withdrawal can easily be mistaken for the original chronic pain source.
It sounds like you have approached this situation in a great frame of mind. And it is possible that you can stop Suboxone abruptly without a problem.
Just passing along what I've seen with a caution that a short taper might be very helpful to you depending on what your current daily dose is. Possibly you have been tapering from the beginning induction and I am preaching to the choir. Regardless, congratulations on your dedication to finding a worthwhile solution.

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#828886 - 01/13/09 04:12 PM Re: YES OR NO. [Re: martind]
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I'm wondering why you don't just try Ultram. WD's from hydro are not fun but it can be done. I've taken hydro for chronic pain for several months a couple of times, up to 8 per day. Both times, I did my WD's with Ultram. It's been a long time but I don't remember it being too bad. I also didn't have any problem getting off the Ultram. I just naturally titrated off over a period of weeks. One day I wasn't on it anymore.

If you have chronic pain and use Suboxone, you might have a problem getting opiate pain treatment in the future. In order to get Suboxone you will diagnosed as an addict. If that's okay with you, go for it.

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