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#829567 - 01/14/09 06:24 PM
Re: How old where you when you needed medications....
[Re: knafn]
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#829702 - 01/15/09 12:46 AM
Re: How old where you when you needed medications....
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Registered: 10/02/05
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I was 22 years old when I was first diagnosed with degenerative disc disease. The doctors were surprised and said they felt sorry that I was so young and had that condition. They said I was too young to have to feel so old. After cortisone shots in my back, medications for muscle spasms, 4 months of physical therapy, manipulation therapy, a consultation with a back surgeon, and a meeting with an anesthesiologist, they put me on pain meds. Percocets were the only thing that was able to help my pain. Same way with me bunny (25,lil older) and that was their biggest hang up/worry/hold back prescribing narcotics that they would express to me was that I was too young to be taking these strong meds cuz I'll be on em for rest of my life(degeneration just keeps on goin & goin)to start now would have me on em for too long in their opinion.But the other meds I had to try for em have done way more harm to the rest of my body that used to not hurt or have something wrong there.From bad reactions to no reation or relief, lightheadedness to insides feeling as they were wanting to come out.Finally,from the doc injecting those needles in my back and finally getting to the spine just to realize he was at the wrong disc/area and had to withdraw and start over, to the ulcered bleeding stomach I now share with my dad & grandads from the latest & most promising(and pharmacutically pushed) non-narcotic wonder drugs they could write 4 me that did not ever wok till they gave in & wrote me what they said was gonna hurt me more in the long run to take.If they would have asked me(but why should they,I'm just a patient. A married father of 4 that was owner of his own paving company so any relief would help to be able to stand upright on a jobsite and tell my employee's what needed done. Or just to walk up to the homeowner and collect the pay for the job we just completed without exusing myself and sitting down,sometimes lying down, and worrying if I am gonna have to ask them to help me up.Or just to be able to push my babies on a swing or on their first bike like I was a normal cause of my meds without the docs thinking I am just drug seeking or trying to feed my addiction if I told em something didn't work or worked better than something else,ect..We all have been there.Sorry 4 the rant.Its Just this thread got me to remembering just how long it has been going on now that I have been arguing 4 myself to have pain relief,have some pleasant days put into the bad days we all have.And not have to feel labled and ashamed that something helps me.To feel what its like when my daughter asks can I do something with her outside and I'm able 2 say yes instead of holding back more tears as I watch her facial expression as I say "not right now,mabey later" and she kisses me on the check and says she understands,loves me, and its ok.U rest your back now.I Damm anyone who has ever dared to judge anyone here and not faced those feelings or the condeming looks, or to just be able 2 do the simplest thing without that owwch or aarrrgghh!!!, or "let me get it daddy".I know I and all of us here have known some form of pain everyday,Just for me its been 4 the last fifteen years. Sorry again. R 
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#919939 - 08/20/09 05:51 AM
Re: How old where you when you needed medications....
[Re: PoPo]
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Registered: 09/21/03
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Loc: LoFi Pool Hall, 12th & Vine
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I was 21 when I was in a motorcycle accident. I was in the hospital for 1 1/2 months for my many injuries. My doc didn't think I would make it, but I'm still here. That was the start of my having to use opiates. Been on them now for about 37 yrs. I've been lucky enough to not have much trouble in my doctor prescribing for me, tho he does not give enough. For some reason, he doesn't take tolerence into consideration and I've had to take more than he will prescribe for yrs. Thus, my need for going the online route.
During Katrina, I was without meds for months, since my doc could not be found and we had to evacuate to Fla., where no doctor I went to see would give me anything, even tho I had all of my med records. They wouldn't even look at them. I went thru pure hell for months with the pain and the stress of loosing everything I owned in the storm. All I know is, I NEVER want to go thru that again EVER. It was horrible. Sorry for your pain. You make me feel young.
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#920097 - 08/20/09 03:45 PM
Re: How old where you when you needed medications....
[Re: musician7]
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Registered: 09/04/06
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I was 13 when they took my guts out, untangled them and replaced them. Pain relief? 1 paracetamol suppository which immediately reappeared on the chair upon which I was sitting, and 1 dose of morphine in the 5 days or so I was there both pre- and post-op. I moaned and groaned for those 5 days in a side-ward, getting no sleep and hallucinating with the combination of severe pain and no sleep. I was convinced that I heard them discussing transplanting abdominal muscle, and told my parents when they came to visit what they were going to do. They put it down to a bad dream.
It angered me later on in life when I found out that there was such a thing as an analgesic. I had no clue at that age, but immediately realised that the one injection they gave me afforded relief. I didn't even know what it was at the time, and can only assume it was morphine based on what my mother said when she looked at my chart.
Later in the same year a turbinectomy, not painful until they took the packs out, which really hurt, and again, no pain relief.
There still remains the issue of whether children need pain relief, believe it or not, and some doctors still think not. Some even believe that children don't feel pain. It's insane; kids feel pain just like adults do - no more and no less.
My experience will haunt me forever, and for the sake of a few doses of an opioid analgesic, it didn't have to be like that.
They also tried to force me to walk upright following the op, which was just impossible with the abdominals being sliced horizontally. Subsequent vertical incision has proved a lot more bearable and recovery much quicker.
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#920197 - 08/20/09 09:02 PM
Re: How old where you when you needed medications....
[Re: nephro]
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GRAND Pooh-Bah
Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 1972
Loc: In your Eyes
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I was 13 when they took my guts out, untangled them and replaced them. Pain relief? 1 paracetamol suppository which immediately reappeared on the chair upon which I was sitting, and 1 dose of morphine in the 5 days or so I was there both pre- and post-op. I moaned and groaned for those 5 days in a side-ward, getting no sleep and hallucinating with the combination of severe pain and no sleep. I was convinced that I heard them discussing transplanting abdominal muscle, and told my parents when they came to visit what they were going to do. They put it down to a bad dream.
It angered me later on in life when I found out that there was such a thing as an analgesic. I had no clue at that age, but immediately realised that the one injection they gave me afforded relief. I didn't even know what it was at the time, and can only assume it was morphine based on what my mother said when she looked at my chart.
Later in the same year a turbinectomy, not painful until they took the packs out, which really hurt, and again, no pain relief.
There still remains the issue of whether children need pain relief, believe it or not, and some doctors still think not. Some even believe that children don't feel pain. It's insane; kids feel pain just like adults do - no more and no less.
My experience will haunt me forever, and for the sake of a few doses of an opioid analgesic, it didn't have to be like that.
They also tried to force me to walk upright following the op, which was just impossible with the abdominals being sliced horizontally. Subsequent vertical incision has proved a lot more bearable and recovery much quicker. Wow....you went through alot at such an early age....... I also agree that children DO have pain and need pain relief, if deemed necessary....... As most of you guys know, migraines, are a big thing in my family and unfortunately my little boy is already having to take medication for his and he started a couple years back....... Needless to say, I think each individual (child or not) knows when they are in pain and sometimes doctors are just too dumb or nieve to believe it......Kinda off topic, but when I say some drs. are idiots, that is the honest truth......My mom fractured her arm/wrist last week and she went to the ER...Well they sent her home with 2.5mg. hydrocodone and told her to call the surgeon the next day to schedule the surgery.......Well she did that and needless to say the 2.5mg. hydrocodone was not working at all and she is not one that takes narcotics often, hardly ever......Anyways.......she went into the surgeon and told him that she is still in pain and what the dr. at the ER had given her.....Guess what this surgeon said???? He said "Yes, that is about the best you can get!!!" OMG, my dad went off.....he basically told the surgeon what he thought and my mom ended up leaving there with 15mg. oxycodone and 10mg Hydrocodone....I guess they looked it up after my dad went off because my mom had not been able to sleep and was in so much pain........ Anyways, sorry for going off topid but I wanted to state how dumb some doctors are......
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