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#804645 - 11/18/08 08:50 AM Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers
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I've been curious about how people feel about the amount of political posts here on drugbuyers.com ever since the Administrator posted his comment that if you have more political posts and off topic posts then on-topic helpful posts, you should probably find a more suitable place for your discussions. Worded very close to this as the best of my memory.

Please, be honest with this poll. Those of you that think there are too many political posts can be heard in an anonymous way.
Opinion of political Posts
Only one choice allowed


Votes accepted starting: 11/18/08 08:41 AM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.
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#804758 - 11/18/08 12:20 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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I don't understand why anyone would care about how many Political posts there are. No one is forced to read them. There is a small group of us who enjoy talking about Politics, and admin has graciously given us a forum to talk about it (considering the Draconian drug Laws in this country, much of legislated by our Representatives, such as the recent Haight Law, Politics and Prescription drug buying are not inconsistent topics really when you think about it.)
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#804823 - 11/18/08 02:11 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: tigersmom]
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I think the poll speaks for itself. At this point in time more people think there are too many political posts for drugbuyers.com.

Please don't take anything personally, that was/is not my intentions. Curiousity is what drove me to create this poll and nothing more.

I personally think a lot of members would be better off using a political based forum and not a forum about purchasing medications online.

You have to respect everyones choices. But when you see several members posts are mainly about politics or off-topic, I can't help but to think that members would be better off posting at a political based forum and not drugbuyers.com. Particularly when they're not posting about obtaining medications but rather politics which are their posts are typically in the off-topic forums and very few of their posts are dedicated to helping members obtaining the medications they need.

I place more importance on helping people obtain the medicines they need rather than concentrating on politics.

Keep in mind and like I've mentioned in this post already this polls intention is to not personally attack anyone but to get an idea of where the majority stands with this issue.
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#804837 - 11/18/08 02:34 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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I don't take it personally, but am simply observing that it is easy to avoid reading the Political forum if a members chooses to do so. There are forums on DB that I almost never read, like the off topic forums where people describe what they are cooking for dinner, this dosen't interest me, doesn't have anything to do with buying drugs online, but it doesn't bother me that we have such an off topic forum, I simply don't read it.
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#804887 - 11/18/08 04:03 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: tigersmom]
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Well, that's like comparing apples to oranges. There are a lot more posts about politics then there are about cooking.

That must be because the Administrator pointed out the fact that there are really too many political posts for a forum such as drugbuyers.com.

That is the basis of my post to begin with. Also, you are free to start a thread or poll regarding your issue per your descretion. That's what I did only my topic is politics.

Also as you pointed out one may choose to read only the topics that interest them. But that's not the basis of this poll. It's just a simple question, regardless of whether you read the political posts or not, you may still have an opinion about whether or not there are too many political posts for a board like drugbuyers.com.

One thing I didn't intend is for this to become an argument.
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#804956 - 11/18/08 06:54 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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I don't think most of my posts are in the politics section, but I really do not get what anyone would be complaining about.

There is just one sub-section devoted to politics. There are many actual sections much less sub-sections that do not apply to me or do not interest me, so I do not enter them.

In the same section as the politics subsection is the happy hour subsection, with many more posts. I rarely enter there for lack of interest, and feel that those posts have even less relevance to our day to day lives. However, I do not complain about them or question if we should have them. I assume that since Admin created the section it is okay with him if people post in it.
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#804961 - 11/18/08 06:58 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Bluefairy]
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20 people bothered to answer the poll. Not worth much.

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#804985 - 11/18/08 08:33 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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I did not answer this poll because "I don't really care" was not an option.

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#804995 - 11/18/08 09:38 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Jennsbutterfly]
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Tigersmom made a good point. If we spent as much time considering some political topics as we did about sports perhaps we would have a better country.

We also shouldn't get involved at the last minute. We are the constituents that make up the country. Be involved.
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#804999 - 11/18/08 09:53 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: trixxie]
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I think there was probably more political posts this last 6 to 12 months because of the US elections and the fact there was a woman and black-African-Indonesian(sorry,I mean American) involved.

I think it would be good to see more medical related political conversation and action,rather than trivial day to day details of politics,but thats just my opinion.

In the end I suppose it's up to Admin. and what they think is best for the board.I'm easy either way,whether the political threads stay or go.

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#805058 - 11/19/08 05:30 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: OldandWorn]
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 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
20 people bothered to answer the poll. Not worth much.


I feel the same way about 99% of your posts OldandWorn, you mainly post in either the political forum or off-top areas. I also notice that when you do offer help or comment to people in other areas the posts are typically one liners that are generally no help at all.

You're the definition of a poster that should find a more suitable board to post on in my opinion. All one has to do is read your posts to see for themselves.

I pride myself in helping everyone I possibly can if I'm able to do so and in a nice & polite way. What do you feel your posts proove?


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#805133 - 11/19/08 08:39 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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 Originally Posted By: Oxy80
 Originally Posted By: OldandWorn
20 people bothered to answer the poll. Not worth much.


I feel the same way about 99% of your posts OldandWorn, you mainly post in either the political forum or off-top areas. I also notice that when you do offer help or comment to people in other areas the posts are typically one liners that are generally no help at all.

You're the definition of a poster that should find a more suitable board to post on in my opinion. All one has to do is read your posts to see for themselves.

I pride myself in helping everyone I possibly can if I'm able to do so and in a nice & polite way. What do you feel your posts proove?




Like many others on this board there are plenty of forums which either don't interest me or have no relevance to my situation so I simply ignore them. That choice is open for all of us so I don't see what the big issue is. What is funny is that some seem to feel as if they need to be the "post monitor" for others, making judgements about the value of other members posts. Look at how many people are registered as members vs the much smaller number of people that actually post regularly. Even if you take into account that the total number of members is smaller due to members no longer active there is a huge difference. Many members tend to read quite a bit but post infrequently. When I see a member who has been here for 4 years but has a low number of posts I tend to pay attention. That tells me that they post only when they feel they have something of value to add to the topic. I have also seen those same members being mocked and called "newbies" simply because they have a low number of posts.

So by your definition I suppose I shouldn't be here either. And also many of those other members who tend not to post. I really don't think it is up to you to define what is a valuable post and I am sure if anyone wanted to spend any amount of time checking your posting history they could come up with a slew of posts that don't meet your strict definition of valuable posts.

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#806254 - 11/21/08 01:48 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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Good poll, I think that the differance between people that post in other off topic threads like "what's for dinner" and so on, is that it probabaly offends almost no one that you are having tacos, or fish and carrots.

When you start talking about politics, there are too many personal issues at hand, and some may find that they disagree with anothers point of view to the point they are unwilling to share information about on-line pharmacys with them, and give the best information that is available.

So those particular off-topic thread(s) on politics, could in the long run, hurt the main purpose of the board which is buying meds on line. Anyway Thats how I took it when the admin posted about the harm that those threads could cause.

I don't pay much attention to the political threads or take them seriously , ( on the drugbuyers.com board) so I voted appropriately for myself. But I do think that the poll would have been better if put up a month or two ago.

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#806294 - 11/21/08 03:24 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Strawberry]
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who cares?

politics is at least a subject that MATTERS.

someone PLEASE explain to me how a subject like politics could possibly HARM the message board? does someone actually think that the board could draw more attention from politically oriented folks than drug buyers?
nobody even talks about drugs anymore., they do not share info, they hoard discoveries, and will often not answer any questions for fear of something...the exchange of info regarding the very topic that the board was designed for, is limited at best. if politics KEEPS people coming here, then who cares?
at least you can engage a discussion in the politics forum.

TM, BF, O&W and all the others that are wondering who cares and why, are absolutely correct. there are MANY topics in the list that i never look at. i am not interested. but, to KEEP members here and involved, and keeping the politics away from general conversation, the topics list is exactly where it needs to be.it does NOT bother ANYONE that is NOT interested, and IF you DO look and just disagree with what you read, then you ARE a closet case that IS interested. why anyone would want the rest of us to stop posting about politics is beyond me. selfish at best. i enjoy the debate and often learn something.

if you are not interested or care about politics, then don't read it. personally, i am pretty bored with seeing the endless post about the fed-ex truck,and UPS.....or did anyone get an order? same things over and over. nothing useful to the board in those post.


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#807171 - 11/24/08 12:08 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: eluded]
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I actually miss the political discussions. Now all I see are ProPatientCare and ChatCP discussions: Did you get your tracking number? How long did it take you to receive? Did Skyla check in today? Where's Jody today? I called her 70 times. I keep e-mailing and calling and they STILL haven't sent me my meds. FedEx or UPS? USPS, WTF? Overnight or Next Day? Skyla, Skyla, Skyla?

ProPatientCare and ChatCP Central

Geesh, 1 out of every 4 posts!
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#807174 - 11/24/08 12:11 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: NotBillGates]
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There are political boards on the web if you are missing them.
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#807177 - 11/24/08 12:18 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: 1219wendy]
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Please point me in the right direction . . . .
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#807209 - 11/24/08 01:39 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: NotBillGates]
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politics and religion are no- noes

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#807221 - 11/24/08 02:11 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: NotBillGates]
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 Originally Posted By: NotBillGates
I actually miss the political discussions. Now all I see are ProPatientCare and ChatCP discussions: Did you get your tracking number? How long did it take you to receive? Did Skyla check in today? Where's Jody today? I called her 70 times. I keep e-mailing and calling and they STILL haven't sent me my meds. FedEx or UPS? USPS, WTF? Overnight or Next Day? Skyla, Skyla, Skyla?

ProPatientCare and ChatCP Central

Geesh, 1 out of every 4 posts!


I couldn't agree with you more. There is simply not that much happening in the online pharmacy world at the moment, come April, now that is when things will get "interesting" around here, and not in a good way.
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#807423 - 11/25/08 08:06 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: tigersmom]
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i hate allthe politics and the poll aggrees with me

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#807425 - 11/25/08 08:15 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: travelman]
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 Originally Posted By: tripper
i hate allthe politics and the poll aggrees with me


That so? Well here is a piece of sage advice: Don't READ the Political Forum.
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#807430 - 11/25/08 08:27 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: tigersmom]
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I don't read the political forum either, but it's impossible to not notice all of the new posts in that forum when doing an "active topic" search. I'd rather see more on topic posts when searching for new posts.

One thing we shouldn't do is get mad at each other because we disagree about something. I respect everyone's choices, but it is obvious by the poll that more people agree with me on this issue.

It's not worth fighting over though...
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#807431 - 11/25/08 08:32 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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but it is obvious by the poll that more people agree with me on this issue.


So are you suggesting that the majority tyrannize the minority?
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#807433 - 11/25/08 08:39 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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 Originally Posted By: Oxy80
... it is obvious by the poll that more people agree with me on this issue.


30% is a very small margin. In a Democracy, it takes 51% to declare a victory.

 Originally Posted By: Oxy80
It's not worth fighting over though...


Yes, you are 100% on this one! \:\)
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#807434 - 11/25/08 08:51 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: tigersmom]
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In total agreement with TM on this issue...

if you do not like the topic, don't look at it. its ALOT like the early arguements in the ratings in movies and on TV.some tried to tell the others that ALL programming should be G rated. thats not fair to those that may enjoy other ratings. the choice has to be available to everyone.

same thing as banning books, and selective editing.. the material needs to be available to those that WANT to participate and those that do NOT have the desire, can just not look, or is this more a question of self control or the lack there-of?

ohhhhh, i do NOT like the subject, so i think i'll go there.
its like howard stern. his ratings and polls said that MORE people listened to him that HATED him, than he had true fans. why? its human nature to peek in at things that you do not understand or care for. Stern got rich off of offending the majority of his listeners who tuned in like clock work everyday and sponsors soon realized that.

i do not particularily care for the programming on channel 47 locally. but thinking that they should turn that channel off because i do not like it is absolutely absurd. its the individuals choice to look or not. even the minority has some say. having many political post or not, makes absolutly ZERO difference in anyones life. none. unless they are just looking for something to whine about...

Tigersmom is 100% on target with this deal...

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#807439 - 11/25/08 09:12 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: eluded]
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No offense Oxy, but it would be silly of anyone to think that a particular interpretation about a comment adimn made is the right one because it's theirs. Maybe a comment that admin makes means one thing to you and another thing altogether to a member that's been around for several years and can see a little deeper.

Politics, drug laws and ESPECIALLY buying meds online are not only related, but politics directly affects whether or not buying meds online happens at all.

People are rightfully angry with the direction this country is going and things don't look very hopeful in terms of real change. So expect a lot more talk about how frustrated people are with bureaucratic gridlock. It's very healthy for people to be interested in the condition of our nation instead of who's wearing what boots in Hollywood.

It's high time that the people in this country pull their heads out of their rear-ends and start paying attention to the things that dictate how we lead our lives and whether or not we can pay our bills. Who knows...maybe someone will learn something important that was read here. That can't be a bad thing.
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#807531 - 11/25/08 01:04 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: tache]
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Many members tend to read quite a bit but post infrequently. When I see a member who has been here for 4 years but has a low number of posts I tend to pay attention. That tells me that they post only when they feel they have something of value to add to the topic. I have also seen those same members being mocked and called "newbies" simply because they have a low number of posts.


I feel the same as you do about post count and especially about paying attention to members described above. I actually have more respect for this type of poster just as I do in real life, people who are able to listen and learn versus those who only want their opinion known.

I've come to realize though that part of the emphasis on post count has to do with the unfortunate fact that there are people who come to this board to take advantage of others.

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#807538 - 11/25/08 01:28 PM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: angto725]
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No offense taken, I agree with you for the most part. It just makes a lot of sense when I read your post.

Like my tag says, I can change my mind when I'm wrong.

It's best to respect everyone and their positions, after all we're all equal really. I don't look at post count or judge people by dates or how many posts they've made. That's really not the right way to think.

I read peoples posts and base my opinions on things people write. Some people are far too judging, that's what I think.

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#807748 - 11/26/08 06:27 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Oxy80]
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 Originally Posted By: Oxy80
I don't read the political forum either, but it's impossible to not notice all of the new posts in that forum when doing an "active topic" search. I'd rather see more on topic posts when searching for new posts.


We have a solution for those that are annoyed by, and do not care for, the off topic forums...
Just PM me and I will set your account so you do not see any of the posts in the off topic forums, (that includes the political forum). It will be like if it was not there and off topic posts will not even show in the searches for recent posts / topics...

By the same token is anyone feels someone is abusing the off topic forums and making you not want to go there... we can block that person from the off topic forum...

In brief... if something annoys you a lot... let us know and we may be able to help...
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#807781 - 11/26/08 08:11 AM Re: Poll on the amount of political posts on DrugBuyers [Re: Administrator]
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I liked the poll!
There is alot of political threads,
And when I'm in the mood, I read sometimes.

The best thing about them is the original author
Seems to be able to name post very accuratly
So if I want to go I will.

You got to admit some of the names people give a post
Are very vague!

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